Who’s the Superstar?

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Top 5 is based on talent available though.

 

For running back, is everyone in the top 5 a superstar?

 

Barkley and Henry are. CMC when healthy. Then there’s a sizable drop off imo.

 

With WR, I think the superstar list extends past 10.

 

A better way, imo, is if you were an FA today, would you be in “near top of the market” money.

 

Brown would be. Dawkins would not.

I would say everyone in the top 5 would be considered superstars. You named 3 backs and I’d add Bijan and Gibbs. Difference makers and all-pro type players. WR maybe has more than 10. I think of guys like Higgins, BTJ, and Devonta Smith as right around that area. Are they stars or superstars? It’s debatable and I’d listen on guys like that at WR.

 

Personally, I think both Dawkins and Brown are elite. The Bills OL is outstanding. If those guys were FAs they would likely be, at, or near the “best available” at OT. That would generate big dollars. 

[MikePJ76]

To me the only player who has “Star” potential is James Cook.  
 

I don’t think anyone else has the abilities or traits to be what is considered a star in the league.  
 

Spencer brown and Groot have the talent it seems but it’s tough for a right tackle to be star and Groot if he was going to be a star would be one by now.

 

 

[Kwai San]

On 7/19/2025 at 10:12 AM, H2o said:

Sherfieild and Harty both previously had a single flash in the pan season, that was still lower tier even for a flash in the pan. Palmer and Moore have already shown they could be more and have dwarfed the production of the other two you mentioned. I see Moore as being another John Brown type, but a better route runner, with JA17 throwing him the ball. Palmer is more of a Tyler Boyd type, who had some really solid years in Cincy. We don't need a Diggs or some other top end WR to have a great offense with JA17. We just need the sum of those parts to be greater than they were last year. I think we have that. 

The wild part???  The O was pretty darn good last year with the WR room they had then.  I am thinking exponentially better if these guys AND the OLine stay reasonably healthy.  It could be scary!

[longtimebillsfan]

I would vote for Dion Dawkins.  Maybe James Cook, but Dawkins has been playing at a pro bowl level for many seasons.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

10 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Herbert is overrated, but let’s not pretend he’s garbage. Buffalo would’ve killed for a QB of that caliber during the drought years. Josh Palmer wasn’t in a bad situation (when looking in from the outside at least.) Let’s hope it was a scheme issue. 

 

Greg Roman, remember him? Pairing Greg Roman up with Herbert is a terrible formula. I am excited to see what Palmer can do, and of course Moore.

[Maine-iac]

20 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Greg Roman, remember him? Pairing Greg Roman up with Herbert is a terrible formula. I am excited to see what Palmer can do, and of course Moore.

I have nothing bad to say about Roman.  The guy made offenses with Kaepernick, Taylor, and Lamar all top offenses.  He's been successful everywhere he's been.

[Mikie2times]

Some of these answers are wild. People selecting Palmer or Moore over Keon. The formula is still in developmental mode, youth, potential injury, and general pedigree. Coleman, Cook, Kincaid, Sanders, Hairston, Brown. Bishop is still in the zone but hasn’t shown much. Some others. But I would take any of those names before guys like Palmer, Bosa, or Moore who have limitations. Sure you can choose to bet on one of them being a lotto card but the likelihood of it is infinitely smaller than just a young talented player figuring it out. We have several of those guys. 

[Don Otreply]

Superstar or not, I like to believe that Keon was unimpressed with his own performance last season, he is self motivated which is s key trait, and is truly working on his game to become a presence on the field, this will benefit the team and himself, and we fans can talk the talk with every catch, 

[Mikie2times]

2 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Greg Roman, remember him? Pairing Greg Roman up with Herbert is a terrible formula. I am excited to see what Palmer can do, and of course Moore.

 

1 hour ago, Maine-iac said:

I have nothing bad to say about Roman.  The guy made offenses with Kaepernick, Taylor, and Lamar all top offenses.  He's been successful everywhere he's been.

Look at what Baltimore did since he left. Its an offense that is easy to figure out and while he will get you at least a C/B offense, how he does it ensures it will go no further. Long term he is a huge weight that will keep that team down, especially Herbert.

[Victory Formation]

It would be wonderful if Khalil Shakir could step up and be an elite playmaker. Can he be a 100 rec 1,000-1,100yds receiver?? I think he can be..

On 7/19/2025 at 1:40 PM, Draconator said:

Bass

This would be epic!

[GunnerBill]

8 hours ago, Maine-iac said:

I have nothing bad to say about Roman.  The guy made offenses with Kaepernick, Taylor, and Lamar all top offenses.  He's been successful everywhere he's been.

 

He is the best run game coordinator of his generation and tbh it isn't close. He has even had productive run games with patchwork offensive lines. His passing game design isn't as innovative and when people think "creative" offensive coordinators they immediately think pass game. 

 

That said, Ben Johnson is MUCH more creative a run game coordinator than he is a pass game coordinator (his pass game is pretty vanilla tbh), but he has the look of young up and coming offensive mind so maybe there is something in Greg Roman's presentation that influences perceptions too. 

[BigDingus]

On 7/19/2025 at 9:08 AM, Maine-iac said:

Bosa is a healthy season away from still being a superstar.  While it may be unlikely it's not impossible to think that if Bosa stays healthy he could be a force on defense.  He looked really good in last years playoffs.  So many pessimists, and maybe they're right, but I'm going hope he's still got at least one more good season in him.

 

It may sound disrespectful, but in my mind, I'm acting like Bosa is barely even on the team & expecting nothing.

 

I'm going into the season assuming someone else will take over soon enough, so whatever he does manage to give us will just be icing on the cake. I have zero expectations. We didn't have him last year, we probably won't have him for long this year, and he'll be gone by next year, so hopefully he's at least there for a meaningful stretch of games while he's healthy. 

[sunshynman]

On 7/20/2025 at 5:40 AM, eball said:

 

 

This *could* wind up being one of the sleeper picks of the entire draft.  There’s something about this kid.  He’s smart, tough, and somehow got overlooked.  Just sayin…

 

Mrs. Hawes? 

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[JP51]

13 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

I would vote for Dion Dawkins.  Maybe James Cook, but Dawkins has been playing at a pro bowl level for many seasons.

Yeah, I would not say he has the potential... I would say he already is... as much as Tackles can be super stars...  his is pretty elite at his position currently. 

[JerseyBills]

Keon Coleman 

Dalton Kincaid 

1 minute ago, JP51 said:

Yeah, I would not say he has the potential... I would say he already is... as much as Tackles can be super stars...  his is pretty elite at his position currently. 

Yup, and he even has a signature move, with his ice pick. Which is rare for OL.. He has been great these last 2 years, he always had trash at LG previously 

 

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

On 7/19/2025 at 10:52 AM, DrDawkinstein said:

Seems no one wants to admit the obvious, the only Bills skill position player to make NFLN's Top 100...

 

Another year running behind the same line, in the same system, that helped take him to his best season yet. If he does it again it will be known as his breakout year.

 

James Cook.

 

 

 

Cook is going to earn himself the next big NFL RB contract.  Probably not with the Bills.

[Buffalo Junction]

26 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Yeah, I would not say he has the potential... I would say he already is... as much as Tackles can be super stars...  his is pretty elite at his position currently. 

And to top that off he’s been rather media savvy doing interviews on national shows, etc. As far as offensive linemen go Dawkins is pretty recognizable to all NFL fans.

That said, real “superstars” tend to be known to people who aren’t fans of their particular sport. If we’re being honest - by that scale - the most well known name on this bills roster aside from Josh Allen is Damar Hamlin. There just aren’t many NFL players that the average American could pick out in a crowd. You generally need to be in a movie, national ad campaign, or get national news coverage. 

[JP51]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Junction said:

And to top that off he’s been rather media savvy doing interviews on national shows, etc. As far as offensive linemen go Dawkins is pretty recognizable to all NFL fans.

That said, real “superstars” tend to be known to people who aren’t fans of their particular sport. If we’re being honest - by that scale - the most well known name on this bills roster aside from Josh Allen is Damar Hamlin. There just aren’t many NFL players that the average American could pick out in a crowd. You generally need to be in a movie, national ad campaign, or get national news coverage. 

Yeah, I think if you are talking about superstar like outside of the lines.. meaning media attention, I agree... then again, what LT gets Papa John's commercials LOL...  although, I think Papa John's or some food company should sign him... I can see him at a table with like 8 pizza's smacking someone that wanted a slice 😆 Like

 

"Papa John's pizza's are so good you might even try to steal a slice from Dion Dawkins..." then he lays the lumber on the dude trying to grab a slice...  I shoulda been in advertising LOL.... 

[hondo in seattle]

I think Josh is our only superstar and I'd be (happily) surprised if anyone else on this roster joined him in that club.  

[Doc Brown]

Dalton Kincaid talent wise is where I'd put my chips if I had to pick one that could develop into a Superstar.