Fleezoid Posted July 9 Posted July 9 I'll take whatever ranking they want to give us. It's just a real treat to be talking about a top offensive line on a Bills team. Wind it back about 10+ years when year after year, the Bills were consistently in the bottom half of the league and everyone was saying 'we need a better O-line'. 2 Quote
HardyBoy Posted July 9 Posted July 9 10 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Right? Hard to believe they were able to turn the unit around with a couple of simple, rather inexpensive, but strategic changes. Feels like the pieced together a decent poker hand after drawing what looked like not much of anything. Health and the continuity that goes with it have been a huge help. I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines... Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time 1 1 Quote
ddaryl Posted July 9 Posted July 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines... Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time Last fair deal in the country Last fair deal in the town Put your gold money where your love is, baby Before you let my deal go down Go down Edited July 9 by ddaryl Quote
MikePJ76 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 I like it better when the bills are under rated in all of these time filling exercises. I loved last year so much because the bills spent the offseason being told all the stuff they couldn’t do. that kind of motivation always works with modern athletes. Quote
eball Posted July 9 Posted July 9 10 hours ago, JerseyBills said: McGovern/Edwards were tremendous value signings If only McGovern could learn to overcome his training camp snap issues… 2 Quote
SoTier Posted July 9 Posted July 9 50 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: I'll take whatever ranking they want to give us. It's just a real treat to be talking about a top offensive line on a Bills team. Wind it back about 10+ years when year after year, the Bills were consistently in the bottom half of the league and everyone was saying 'we need a better O-line'. In the Jauron era, the Bills didn't even have an OL, simply future HOFer LT Jason Peters and 4 big, slow dudes no other teams wanted. Then Russ Brandon traded away Peters because he (Brandon) refused to renegotiate Peters' very unfair contract. Quote
Toledo Bill Posted July 9 Posted July 9 3 hours ago, WotAGuy said: The best characteristic of the Bills’ o-line is most of them are nasty and show it in their play. Spencer and Dion leading the way in that regard. Quite a change from the "soft" teams of the past. Now transfer some of that nastiness to the defensive line. 2 1 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 9 Posted July 9 12 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Beane has done a fabulous job with FA signings and the draft. We have guys in the pipeline ready to step up. Kromer has done an excellent job developing guys and deserves a ton of credit. But wait, I read all these other threads how his drafts are suspect?? Actually does make you wonder is it the players he drafted or is it the coaching and they got a good one there in Kromer? Quote
klos63 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 12 hours ago, julian said: Lemme guess, it’s the “they’re greater than the sum of their parts” nonsense whenever they want to explain away why none of the players are highly regarded in their eyes. God forbid they asks themselves if it’s possible they’ve undervalued some of the players on that 3rd ranked unit. This seems like a negative response to a very positive ranking. Did i miss something? Quote
HardyBoy Posted July 9 Posted July 9 2 hours ago, ddaryl said: Last fair deal in the country Last fair deal in the town Put your gold money where your love is, baby Before you let my deal go down Go down Haha, your avatar checks out! Today is my wife's birthday and the anniversary of their last show ever...oh wow, 30 years right?! 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted July 9 Posted July 9 We can all kid but it’s really interesting to see the route taken to assemble this O Line. For example, both of our starting Tackles came out of small schools and Dawkins was listed as a Guard. (Something I’d forgotten.) Quote
HOUSE Posted July 9 Posted July 9 What this actually means is Philadelphia and Denver have more PFF subscribers than Buffalo. 3 Quote
julian Posted July 9 Posted July 9 1 hour ago, klos63 said: This seems like a negative response to a very positive ranking. Did i miss something? Quote
HappyDays Posted July 9 Posted July 9 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Dawkins was listed as a Guard. The ol' Buddy Nix gambit! Quote
corta765 Posted July 9 Posted July 9 15 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Amazing that the Bears turned it around so fast. Their o line was bottom 3 not too long ago. Not enough has been said about KC trading Thuney when their O-line was already shaky. If there is one thing that I think slows their offense way more its the O-line not being nearly as good as it has been in prior years. 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted July 9 Posted July 9 15 hours ago, MJS said: Ok. I was prepared to be annoyed, but this one actually worked out. The Bills have a legitimately good oline. Agree, outside of Allen, our line is the next most important unit on the team, 3 hours ago, SoTier said: In the Jauron era, the Bills didn't even have an OL, simply future HOFer LT Jason Peters and 4 big, slow dudes no other teams wanted. Then Russ Brandon traded away Peters because he (Brandon) refused to renegotiate Peters' very unfair contract. Russ always was an idiot, 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted July 9 Posted July 9 17 minutes ago, corta765 said: Not enough has been said about KC trading Thuney when their O-line was already shaky. If there is one thing that I think slows their offense way more its the O-line not being nearly as good as it has been in prior years. Depends on how quickly Josh Simmons recovers from his knee injury. He was an elite prospect that only fell because of that injury. Early reports from OTAs said he was already working in with the 1s and looked fine. If he can step in and immediately be the answer at LT that automatically makes them better than last year IMO. And then you have Rashee Rice coming back. Good reason to think their offense will be significantly better than it was last year. 1 Quote
ddaryl Posted July 9 Posted July 9 2 hours ago, HardyBoy said: Haha, your avatar checks out! Today is my wife's birthday and the anniversary of their last show ever...oh wow, 30 years right?! I used to play clash of clans in a Grateful Dead clan and I created that gif from that time. Forgot all about it but decided to bust it out after I stumbled acrossed it. Yeah 30 years, what we wouldn't do to see one more show of the boys plus Jerry and Phil in their prime. I did see Brent's last show before he passed. Brent was my favorite Dead keyboardist, loved the funk undertones he brought to the band Quote
GunnerBill Posted July 9 Posted July 9 34 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Depends on how quickly Josh Simmons recovers from his knee injury. He was an elite prospect that only fell because of that injury. Early reports from OTAs said he was already working in with the 1s and looked fine. If he can step in and immediately be the answer at LT that automatically makes them better than last year IMO. And then you have Rashee Rice coming back. Good reason to think their offense will be significantly better than it was last year. I agree with all this sadly. If Simmons is healthy and plays well as a rookie that offense is going to be more explosive than it has been in at least 3 years. Rice, Hollywood, Worthy, speed and versatility, can all line up anywhere. Would be the best WR group Mahomes has had IMO, even though there isn't a definite elite #1 like Hill was in his early years. Left Guard in Thuney's absence is a question mark, but if the tackle play is good and the center is good you can hide a shaky guard to an extent. 3 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted July 9 Posted July 9 This is so good to see. I've been complaining for what felt like generations about the OL. For a while, I couldn't understand why Beane drafted a unicorn QB with little attempt to hire an adequate bodyguard to protect him. Well, little by little, Beane's built up a good one. 1 Quote
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