McDermott not in Top 10 of NFL coaches per PFF.

[GoBills808]

I bet their next story is going to be how FG% decreases w distance

[Mat68]

My Stefanski rant.  Stefanski doesn't get nearly enough blame for dropping Mayfield in the trash for playing through a shoulder injury.  Putting all the blame on Baker for the lack of success that season opened the door for the Watson debacle.  How he is able to look like the savior while also creating the problem is disgusting to me.   Baker has played as a top 5 qb for the past two seasons.  Stefanski ran him off.  He needs to wear that but he is some how a sympathetic figure.  

[uticaclub]

34 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Who, exactly, has determined that Beane completely busted on the 2024 FA and draft class? Can we wait until they have played some football  first before determining this? That seems like the prudent approach to me, but you feel free to be you. 

Last years class, not this year. It’s factual that none of the free agents or draft picks made in 2024 had an impact on the field last year. 

[SoTier]

12 hours ago, BillsFooteball said:

Well the suspense is killing me! Who is #32 and the only coach in the NFL you rank McDermott ahead of?! 

 

Andy Reid, of course.

[Buffalo Boy]

15 hours ago, SoTier said:

Sammy Sunshine strikes again.

[stuvian]

I would put McDermott after Shanahan. If Sirianni wins another one in Philly it will be interesting to see how much credit he gets. 

[folz]

5 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Last years class, not this year. It’s factual that none of the free agents or draft picks made in 2024 had an impact on the field last year. 

 

Some of you guys act like this is fantasy football. It is much more complicated for real teams and there is always context. Do you not remember that because of the Stefon Diggs trade and because we kicked the can down the road a bit to try and keep the team together over the previous few years (because we were close), the Bills were 41 million over the cap at the start of the 2024 offseason? How many great players did you expect the Bills to bring in under those circumstances? Everyone knew it was going to be a tight year without the ability to add any big names or whatever (while having to release/trade some mainstay players as well). The Bills decided to take the hit of the Diggs trade all last year, which severely strapped them in 2024 (but made things easier in 2025). Yet, they still won 13 games and made it to the AFC Championship in what was supposed to be a down/rebuild year because of lack of funds and aging veterans. 

 

So, yes, 2024 does not appear to have been a great offseason, but there is a reason for it. Plus, I would say that Mack Hollins, Keon (before the injury), Curtis Samuel (at the end of the year), Amari Cooper (sporadically), D. Carter (was coming on before his injury), and Ray Davis (631 yards and 6 TDs) were all contributors. And I think you could safely say that at least Hollins and Davis made an impact. They had 11 TDs combined last season (and did much more than just scoring).

 

Many teams can't maintain success through the inevitable reset year(s), but the Bills did. Almost seems like Beane and McD should get praise for that, not derision.

 

Edited 23 hours ago by folz

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

On 6/25/2025 at 1:05 PM, FireChans said:

absolutely dreadful WRs outside of Ladd. 

So you’re no buying the Joshua Palmer hype? 😂

[NeverOutNick]

He’s not a top 10 coach. He’s the head coach of a top 10 team. Better yet he’s the head coach of Josh Allen

[FireChans]

5 hours ago, folz said:

 

Some of you guys act like this is fantasy football. It is much more complicated for real teams and there is always context. Do you not remember that because of the Stefon Diggs trade and because we kicked the can down the road a bit to try and keep the team together over the previous few years (because we were close), the Bills were 41 million over the cap at the start of the 2024 offseason? How many great players did you expect the Bills to bring in under those circumstances? Everyone knew it was going to be a tight year without the ability to add any big names or whatever (while having to release/trade some mainstay players as well). The Bills decided to take the hit of the Diggs trade all last year, which severely strapped them in 2024 (but made things easier in 2025). Yet, they still won 13 games and made it to the AFC Championship in what was supposed to be a down/rebuild year because of lack of funds and aging veterans. 

 

So, yes, 2024 does not appear to have been a great offseason, but there is a reason for it. Plus, I would say that Mack Hollins, Keon (before the injury), Curtis Samuel (at the end of the year), Amari Cooper (sporadically), D. Carter (was coming on before his injury), and Ray Davis (631 yards and 6 TDs) were all contributors. And I think you could safely say that at least Hollins and Davis made an impact. They had 11 TDs combined last season (and did much more than just scoring).

 

Many teams can't maintain success through the inevitable reset year(s), but the Bills did. Almost seems like Beane and McD should get praise for that, not derision.

 

Curtis Samuel was the 4th highest paid WR that free agency period.

 

Him and Mack Hollins were signed weeks before Diggs was even traded.

 

So really this is completely misleading and revisionist history.

[Orlando Buffalo]

If a guy is top 2 in wins for a 6 year period any statement he is not top 1/3 of league makes you mentally challenged. Truly the greatness of Josh Allen does make winning an automatic, just like the Colts lost a lot with Manning. 

[folz]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

Curtis Samuel was the 4th highest paid WR that free agency period.

 

Him and Mack Hollins were signed weeks before Diggs was even traded.

 

So really this is completely misleading and revisionist history.

 

Not sure what you are debating. The fact that the Diggs trade came after free agency began only enhances how strapped they were for spending dollars. Apologies for lumping things together (as one offseason) rather than laying out the exact timeline of everything in detail. The team was $41 million over at the start of the NFL year (so before the Diggs trade, which only made things worse when it happened). The team released a number of players and restructured a number of others, so they could "work around the cap" as Beane stated. So they would have some money to spend. [Note: Tre wouldn't be released until April 1st, Diggs traded on April 3rd.] In the end, the Bills were 22nd in free agency spending last year (they were worst in the NFL in being over the cap at the start of the new year). 

 

So, are you trying to say that they had plenty of money/cap room in 2024 and chose not to use it or used it poorly? Or that the Diggs trade didn't also affect their offseason (he was $3.2 million more against the cap traded than if he stayed---$31 million against the cap total--- and he had to be replaced with another player and their salary and cap hit)? So, not sure what you mean by "misleading" and "revisionist history." I'm not sure what point you are actually questioning or how Samuel being the 4th highest paid FA WR weighs into it? 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by folz

[Augie]

22 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Last years class, not this year. It’s factual that none of the free agents or draft picks made in 2024 had an impact on the field last year. 

 

Our first 3 picks were set back by injuries, while Coleman and Carter had flashes prior to being hurt. Bishop was injured early so that significantly held back his development. Ray Davis was a solid contributor and I’m eager to see some more of Javon Solomon. he’s got a bendy, twitchy skill set we otherwise lack and may be a nice roll player.

 

It’s not easy to break the roster on a SB caliber team, and I have hopes for solid contributions from the 2024 draft. We may even have our future starting Center, if not for the backlog of talent on the OL. 

 

I think it is FAR too soon to judge the 2024 draft. 

[T master]

On 6/24/2025 at 8:13 PM, 14774 said:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-returning-head-coaches-2025

 

Agree or disagree? He has his faults, but I think he fits in the Top 10 somewhere. 

Haters will hate but the team wouldn't be where it came from for 17+ yrs if it wasn't of this leadership & I for 1 can't wait ill he brings a Lombardi to Buffalo so I can tell all the haters to piss off !!! 

 

He definitely is in the top 10 with out a doubt !!! 

[FireChans]

10 hours ago, folz said:

 

Not sure what you are debating. The fact that the Diggs trade came after free agency began only enhances how strapped they were for spending dollars. Apologies for lumping things together (as one offseason) rather than laying out the exact timeline of everything in detail. The team was $41 million over at the start of the NFL year (so before the Diggs trade, which only made things worse when it happened). The team released a number of players and restructured a number of others, so they could "work around the cap" as Beane stated. So they would have some money to spend. [Note: Tre wouldn't be released until April 1st, Diggs traded on April 3rd.] In the end, the Bills were 22nd in free agency spending last year (they were worst in the NFL in being over the cap at the start of the new year). 

 

So, are you trying to say that they had plenty of money/cap room in 2024 and chose not to use it or used it poorly? Or that the Diggs trade didn't also affect their offseason (he was $3.2 million more against the cap traded than if he stayed---$31 million against the cap total--- and he had to be replaced with another player and their salary and cap hit)? So, not sure what you mean by "misleading" and "revisionist history." I'm not sure what point you are actually questioning or how Samuel being the 4th highest paid FA WR weighs into it? 

 

You said we were over the cap BECAUSE of the Diggs trade which was of course easily proven false.

 

But really it ties into this narrative that 2024 was this year where we couldn’t add talent. Which is just not true.

 

Samuel was the 4th highest paid WR that period. Good for one of the 30ish highest paid WRs in the NFL at the time by AAV. What REALLY happened is that he was basically a disaster of a signing and was 178th in yards.

 

We made a similar valued signing in 2025 with the addition of Josh Palmer. So if Curtis Samuel was the “consolation prize” because of the Diggs trade (which he wasn’t of course) or because the cap situation was just “so bad” then 1 year later in apparently MUCH better cap shape, we signed….. basically the same value player…..again.

Edited 4 hours ago by FireChans

[SoTier]

13 hours ago, FireChans said:

Curtis Samuel was the 4th highest paid WR that free agency period.

 

Him and Mack Hollins were signed weeks before Diggs was even traded.

 

So really this is completely misleading and revisionist history.

 

Seems like they knew they were determined to send Diggs packing -- maybe even working on possible trades -- when they signed both Samuel and Hollins.   In what universe does proactively dealing with a disruptive player constitute "revisionist history"?    

[FireChans]

8 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Seems like they knew they were determined to send Diggs packing -- maybe even working on possible trades -- when they signed both Samuel and Hollins.   In what universe does proactively dealing with a disruptive player constitute "revisionist history"?    

Maybe. Maybe they were determined to make it work until they got the offer for the second and couldn’t pass it up.

 

we don’t know.

 

what we do know is factually 100% not true is that we entered the 2024 offseason over the cap because of the Diggs trade.