Browns Laugh Of The Day... Their Posting The QB OTA Stats

[BillsfaninChicago]

At this point I think Art Modell was trying to do the city of Cleveland a favor…

[NickelCity]

4 hours ago, Herc11 said:

 

Here' a little fun fact I learned the other day. Jeff Tuel's HS alma matter is Clovis West HS in Fresno, CA. As we all know, Josh went to Firebaugh HS, which is only like 30 mins away.

 

I genuinely don't think that counts as a fun fact lol. 

[Doc Brown]

9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Been saying it since the draft - The best QB on that roster is Sanders. And yet he is not gonna get a shot at the job. 

 

Only in Cleveland.

Based off those limited stats you might be right.  Fewest number of attempts but the most number of touchdowns.

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I thought that I remember being reports when the offense went in a slump in the middle of the season that some players thought Mahomes should start.  Maybe I'm misremembering though.  

 

No I think that is right. By midseason I think that was the view. 

3 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

And sorry, but he isn't going to be great.  They just can't get it right.

 

I don't think he is either.

[Mister Defense]

12 hours ago, DCofNC said:

He’ll get the job, the owner already made them draft him, if you think he won’t force them to play him, I think you are mistaken.  I can not for the life of me understand what they were doing drafting Gabriel, dude is a priority undrafted FA at best.  What a waste of picks to not only take him, but then trade UP to take a better QB after him.

 

I think you may be right, especially for a guy still reeling, and likely feels he always will be, because of one of the most ludicrous trades and contracts in NFL history in Deshaun Watson.  But he seems to like giving away his draft picks still, as you point out, as if they don't have much value.

 

In the end what happened in the draft may end up being one of the best things to ever happen to Sanders.

 

He is now a more sympathetic under dog to many, while previously he was being thought of as an entitled, arrogant rich boy, someone many were rooting against.

 

On the other hand, can you imagine the pressure on him if he was a top ten or even top round pick?  With all the unrealistic expectations everyone, including his own father, were putting on him?

 

Now, maybe all of that hot air his dad had been filling him with his entire life, including in public, may be gone. And the pressure is off to some degree.  He can just play football. As the expectations for any quarterback chosen in the 5th round are very low, by anyone's standards.

 

 

 

[Ga boy]

14 hours ago, transient said:

In fairness, the tent had it coming.

They say the tent was open

[BuffaloBill]

16 hours ago, QCity said:

 

We used to do this with EJ, Jeff Tuel, and Thad Lewis.

 

 

Just seeing this list makes me sick …. What a horrible era of QB play…..

[Mr. WEO]

15 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Sure. But when someone is clearly the best Quarterback on the roster not having them play is never the right decision.

 

He'll be starting by week 2

[Ben]

17 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I’m sorry, this just makes me very sad. 

Then we got orton and it seemed like elway by comparison 

[BillsFan4]

18 hours ago, QCity said:

 

We used to do this with EJ, Jeff Tuel, and Thad Lewis.

Yep. I definitely remember this.

 

They are just desperate for a true franchise QB, same as we were. I actually feel for Browns fans these days. I guess I’m getting more empathetic the older I get 😂 

[BillsFan4]

16 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:

 

EJ was one of our QBs I never had any hope for. Like, Losman had me sort of hopeful for a while because of that big arm and his connections with Evans. Edwards had the whole "reminds me of Joe Montana" stuff from Bill Walsh and for a few games looked good.

 

EJ from the moment he was drafted just had me thinking nope, this guy will never amount to anything. I remember that drive against the Panthers when they scored in the last seconds and he was on his knees thanking God and the whole crowd was going wild. Even then I just couldn't get excited about the guy.

Same here. I can still picture EJ Manuel having to set his feet like 5 times just to throw a 5 yard pass. 🤢🤮😂

 

I remember a press conference after a particularly bad game by EJ, some reporter asked him about how poorly he played and he answered “well the coach said I played well” or something along those lines. I was like “yeah, this dude’s never gonna make it as an NFL starter…” lol

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by BillsFan4

[Beck Water]

18 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Been saying it since the draft - The best QB on that roster is Sanders. And yet he is not gonna get a shot at the job. 

 

Only in Cleveland.

 

Actually... weren't there a couple years when we did that here?  In 2013 with EJM, Tuel, and Lewis IIRC, maybe 2015 as well.

 

Might differ in that it wasn't ESPN, but rather the local media tracking every throw that occurred during the portion of the practice open to media.

[Bangarang]

17 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Disagree. It depends on what the best thing for the development of that particular rookie QB is. If he’s the best and ready to go, then sure. If he needs some work on mechanics, etc. first, then get him right before putting him on the field. Starting him week one and having to pull him after a few weeks is far worse than him sitting him a half - or even whole - season before starting. It all depends when he’s ready. 

 

If he's the best QB on the roster then you have to play him. At the end of the day, it was just a 5th round pick. 

[Fleezoid]

I'm thinking there is a viable chance that all 4 of those QBs start at some point during the season?

[BarleyNY]

6 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

If he's the best QB on the roster then you have to play him. At the end of the day, it was just a 5th round pick. 

Honestly, if he’s the best QB on the roster, then he is ready for the field. It’s not like Flacco can’t be competent. If he has things he needs to fix first, then he’s not currently the best option. On that point, the Browns coaches would know where he stands better than some fan on a message board. 

 

On that note, my opinion of the situation is informed by a little inside knowledge. the team is working to clean up a couple mechanical issues that show up at times. Nothing major, but you would not want to play him before cleaning them up. Maybe it happens by TC and he shines and is the week one starter. Maybe it takes longer. 

[dorquemada]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He'll be starting by week 2

 

Yeah the media pressure and the usual suspects will make it impossible to do anything else.  Then when he utterly flames out because he's a slow decision maker in a league full of lightning fast defenses, the blame will go everywhere except on our friend LEGENDARY

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, dorquemada said:

 

Yeah the media pressure and the usual suspects will make it impossible to do anything else.  Then when he utterly flames out because he's a slow decision maker in a league full of lightning fast defenses, the blame will go everywhere except on our friend LEGENDARY

 

the "usual suspects" will be the other trash QBs in the room....

[dorquemada]

26 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

the "usual suspects" will be the other trash QBs in the room....

 

Flacco is an accomplished QB in the NFL.  LEGENDARY Sanders hasn't done a think yet in the league, but I agree, and fervently hope that he gets throws into the starting lineup because that will be the most hilarious, therefore most likely, outcome.  Mel Kiper having a Grade III meltdown on sportcenter because Sanders can't get triple digit yards in a game and keeps throwing pick 6s because those behind the LoS passes are a lot easier in college than pro is going to be the icing on the cake.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Actually... weren't there a couple years when we did that here?  In 2013 with EJM, Tuel, and Lewis IIRC, maybe 2015 as well.

 

Might differ in that it wasn't ESPN, but rather the local media tracking every throw that occurred during the portion of the practice open to media.

 

I thought it was stupid and arbitrary back then as well.  I also felt it was bad to track that kind of thing because its just not helpful, the absolute negativity of buffalo sports media.  I don't mind calling out when players play well or poorly, but it is a practice session - The QB is not in danger.  This is hugely influential in the "controlled" element of practice that makes a guy like peterman look great.  

[Don Otreply]

19 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

You can sit a guy who is clearly the best guy for 2 weeks. Or 3 weeks. You can't do it much beyond that. Your locker room won't buy it and frankly the guy who is better and sitting won't buy it either. You might have been able to do that 25 years ago. You can't today.

 

I didn't love Sanders either (although I did have a day 2 grade). But I think the rest of the options suck. And he will end up comfortably the best guy on that roster. And I do mean comfortably.

That doesn’t necessarily say a lot about any of those QBs, comes across as putting lipstick on a pig / polishing a turd, type of thing, lol.