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Posted
2 hours ago, Draconator said:

Isn't that like putting the play book on the airplane?

He brought his notebook to the interview also, showing how much he wants to pick off Josh Allen, and the mistakes he made in the past to make sure he will.

Posted
3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

This kid has no idea what he just unleashed on himself.

 

My brain also went immediately to Jalen Ramsey. Starks needs to go watch tape of what Josh did to Ramsey on the Rams and Dolphins. It was filthy.

 

I'm legit scared for this kid's safety.

 

Should be fun.

 

 

I love the irony of the last two lines especially!

 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

As is well known on these boards I think bulletin board stuff is total mumbo jumbo placebo effect. It has no impact on performance. 

Brian Cox would like a word…the 12th man took the proverbial bat to him following his bulletin board moment(s)…😅

 

Posted
2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea. Placebo effect. They think "man I'm gonna be so focussed because of that" but when they get on the field that isn't what makes him make great throws, or good decisions. It's technique, talent and split second decision making.

 

Yea. Placebo effect. He thought it made him better, so he kept doing it. 

Placebo effect involves an actual treatment of a physical or physiological condition, so for me you are completely mis-using it here.

 

I think you are making the point that the players already had these abilities so the emotional heightening from perceived or actual "insults" is negligible.

 

I would simply say that physiological changes when experiencing strong emotions can change mental focus, increasing it when channeled properly. 

 

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.01454/full  

 

So, some pro athletes find ways to experience strong emotions to find greater focus.  This is what is being alluded to.  Yes, you're right the athlete already had the ability, but finding ways to maintain maximum mental focus enables maximum and consistent physical performance.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Mat68 said:

It’s a compliment.  They used to say Brady or Manning.  Now its Allen, Mahomes or Lamar

 

I think you can leave Lamar off your list.....if he ever learns how to read defenses pre-snap, or be able to throw to anyone other than his first read before taking off to run, then maybe he can be considered, but I am not holding my breath.

 

Once his athleticism fades, he will fall off quickly.

 

As for Starks, he wants an INT off the best QB on the planet......what defender doesn't want that?? Wanting an interception is one thing, but getting one is quite another.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

Placebo effect involves an actual treatment of a physical or physiological condition, so for me you are completely mis-using it here.

 

I think you are making the point that the players already had these abilities so the emotional heightening from perceived or actual "insults" is negligible.

 

I would simply say that physiological changes when experiencing strong emotions can change mental focus, increasing it when channeled properly. 

 

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.01454/full  

 

So, some pro athletes find ways to experience strong emotions to find greater focus.  This is what is being alluded to.  Yes, you're right the athlete already had the ability, but finding ways to maintain maximum mental focus enables maximum and consistent physical performance.

 

 

 

I am not using placebo effect in its medical sense. It now has an accepted wider application for analogous situations where a percieved effect is bigger than the reality.

Posted
2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Michael Jordan used to make up things in his head of what his competition said about him.  It motivated the ***** out of him.  

I’m a huge Allen fan but nobody is like Jordan was. 
Jordan was the most competitive person ever. No one comes close. 
 

David Blaine was trying to do a card trick with him and Jordan tried to cheat with that because he didn’t want to get fooled on a stupid card trick. 
 

Yeah Jordan would make stuff up because that who he is. 
 

Most of the guys are competitive but not to Jordan’s level. 

Posted
3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I suppose this is just Starks saying he wants to beat the best, but it also comes off a little like Jalen Ramsey's "trash" take. As a rookie he might want to actually do something in the league first before calling out the MVP.

Didn't Hairston say basically the same thing when drafted by the Bills.  

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2025/04/26/buffalo-bills-max-hairston-keep-ball-picks-off-josh-allen-practice-2025-nfl-draft/83284266007/

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Shortly after being selected with the 30th overall pick, Hairston chopped it up with Josh Allen via FaceTime. Both were ecstatic at the idea of becoming teammates, and the enthusiasm led to the ultimate compliment of Allen from Hairston.

The 21-year-old rookie said that if he ever intercepts Allen in practice, he's keeping the ball as a memory because Allen is "just that guy".

 

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

As is well known on these boards I think bulletin board stuff is total mumbo jumbo placebo effect. It has no impact on performance. 


it’s absolutely mambo jumbo.  

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Posted
3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

What a crazy thing to argue when the players are telling you themselves. Who cares if it is placebo or not. It still gets the job done.

 

And there is no way you can watch all the film of Josh attacking Ramsey and say there was nothing there. It was on a different level than anyone else he has played against. It was targeted, it was aggressive, it was filthy, and it was glorious.


they also say they are expected to, and  do, give 110%…leaving it all on the field, playing as 1/11th and making sure they just execute while having each others’ backs because they love each other…

Posted
17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am not using placebo effect in its medical sense. It now has an accepted wider application for analogous situations where a percieved effect is bigger than the reality.

Except the placebo effect is real.  On paper it shouldn't be (your perception), but its reality is measurable and quantifiable.  The opposite analogy for the point you're trying to make.

 

Maybe as an athlete you ignored your emotional state, I did and regret it, because my best performances were when the stakes were the highest and I was totally and desperately invested in winning.  It gave me massive focus and fear of mistakes or failing vanished.  That's just me and everyone's different so I get what you're trying to say, I would simply conclude that perhaps you should open your mind more and that for some, influencing their mental state increases their performance.

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If he picks off Josh Allen he will act like he's some masterful player.  If he does not pick off Allen, there are no stories written and there is no accountability.  Seems like a win-win to say it.

Posted
56 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Brian Cox would like a word…the 12th man took the proverbial bat to him following his bulletin board moment(s)…😅

 

check this out: I attended a San Diego Chargers vs Miami Dolphinsb game at the old jack Murphy stadium where a fan made a sign out of a sheet which said:

 

WANTED IN BUFFALO BRYAN COX. this huge sign and I thought how hilarious. this dude is being called out from San Diego??

 

LOL

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I suppose this is just Starks saying he wants to beat the best, but it also comes off a little like Jalen Ramsey's "trash" take. As a rookie he might want to actually do something in the league first before calling out the MVP.

 

I don't even get a sniff of Ramsey in this interview. He sounds pretty playful and smart. I thought Starks came across really well. Good kid. 

 

He said he wants to pick off Allen because he has a bunch of friends on the Bills.

 

Malaki basically said "it would be fun to beat my friends on the Bills"

 

Ramsey said Allen was trash.

 

IMO this is a total non-story.

 

Timestamp is around 5:10

 

https://youtu.be/IueRXT77hfU?si=PO7VRTE5303nus5D

 

 

32 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

 

I highly doubt that anybody who actually watched the interview thought the kid was coming at Allen with anything but respect.

 

What a BS headline. He was super friendly.

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Josh Allen after dropping 3TD passes and hurdling him once the first time they play:

 

 

 

 

Keegan Michael Key Snl GIF by Saturday Night Live

I hope Allen lowers his 237lb shoulder on this punk and levels him

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

I don't even get a sniff of Ramsey in this interview. He sounds pretty playful and smart. I thought Starks came across really well in this interview. Good kid. 

 

He said he wants to pick off Allen because he has a bunch of friends on the Bills.

 

Ramsey said Allen was trash.

 

Malaki basically said "it would be fun to beat my friends on the Bills"

 

IMO this is a total non-story.

 

Timestamp is around 5:10

 

https://youtu.be/IueRXT77hfU?si=PO7VRTE5303nus5D

 

 

 

I highly doubt that anybody who actually watched the interview thought the kid was coming at Allen with anything but respect.

 

What a BS headline. He was super friendly.

I've seen Starks interviewed many times here in the ATL and he is one of those I want to be the best and to be the best I have to play the best kind of guys.  I wanted him for the Bills.  Love the Hairston choice.  Both Hairston and Starks will be difference makers in the NFL.  

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