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He'd immediately be no worse than the 2nd best WR on the team. However due to investment, he'd probably slot back in as the 4th. Unfortunately the Samuel cap situation makes it hard to dump him, but he'd be a massive upgrade there.

I'd expect Davis to get a shot as a #2 on a needy team.

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2 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

They drafted Bech and Thornton and already have Meyers on the roster.  Not saying they wouldn't take a swing on Davis but considering they have Bowers at TE they have pass catchers on the roster now.  I personally think Davis would be better suited here now then when the offense was so WR centric.  Our outside pass catchers really are there to block and win outside when teams come out of shell coverage.  Given that injuries happen I could see him being the next guy up after Palmer and Coleman.  Shakir, Kincaid, and the RB's would get the bulk of the targets and Davis (if he's out there) would get the posts, sails, and deep shots.

What's Moore going to do?

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1 minute ago, Starr Almighty said:

I believe I saw a stat once that said 40 something percent of passes to Gabe ended up as an interception. 

It is true (not sure of the percentage) that Allen would force a lot of throws to Gabe and according to PFR he had about 6 picks a year throwing to Davis.  The difference now would be that we are more focused on taking the profit most plays and moving the chains.  Allen didn't have that option for several years after Beasley left.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaviGa01.htm#all_adv_receiving_and_rushing

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8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

You can say a lot (of bad) about Gabe Davis, but the ankle breaker in 13 seconds …. kinda clutch. 

 

Honestly I saw that as more of a blown coverage by the Chiefs who were scrambling late and ended up with a slot corner in outside leverage when he should have been inside. That was more about the OC and Allen's recognition than it was about Davis, imo.

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7 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Frankly, Mack Hollins was way better in that Mack Hollins role than Gabe, Hollins has better hands, and was more clutch to boot in our system, Gabe is worn out, constantly injured and is “incomplete”  in something around 50% of his targets with both the teams he played for, why on gods green earth would we want to sign this guy, nuthin but luv for an ex Bills player, but…,

 

Not disagreeing but Mack Hollins got paid like an elite role player by the Pats (and even the Bills paid a slight premium for him in 2024 about 3ish million IRC) so the Bills would comparatively be "kicking the tires" on Gabe on a vet minimum and brining him into camp where he can show what he has left and at worst they cut him and maybe have him on the PS or on "retainer" if injuries hit. Given that teams have 9-10 WR's or more on the 90 man roster in camp having Gabe on one backend spot seems like a decent idea? 

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The bills O set records last year by playing the analytics and only fielding receivers with good catch percentages. Gabe and his 40 percent catch percentage are never seeing the field for Buffalo again.  The all time NFL record holder for TD receptions in a playoff game (4) has 6 total playoff TDs. 

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If this was before Moore, I would have said it was a no brainer. Gabe can stretch the field even if he’s limited. I could see him coming back but will they keep 6 WRs or is a move on the horizon? For example, do they trade Samuel or even Keon? I highly doubt Keon but that’s not impossible (especially if they question his work ethic). Samuel would be the logical choice to be dealt if they wanted Gabe back. I’m going to guess though that Gabe ends up somewhere else. Ravens maybe? Cardinals?

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6 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Do we think Mack was more clutch in 2024 vs the Chiefs than Gabe in 2021?

 

I think in one year that Hollins made more clutch plays than Davis did his entire time here.

He also made 100x fewer mistakes, imo.

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1 minute ago, Maine-iac said:

Moore is not an X WR my guess is he's going to play slot.

I personally see shakir as a slot. Legit question. Do you see shakir being as good on the outside? Where do you see him fit in?

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5 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

They drafted Bech and Thornton and already have Meyers on the roster.  Not saying they wouldn't take a swing on Davis but considering they have Bowers at TE they have pass catchers on the roster now.  I personally think Davis would be better suited here now then when the offense was so WR centric.  Our outside pass catchers really are there to block and win outside when teams come out of shell coverage.  Given that injuries happen I could see him being the next guy up after Palmer and Coleman.  Shakir, Kincaid, and the RB's would get the bulk of the targets and Davis (if he's out there) would get the posts, sails, and deep shots.

 

Yea, Bech and Thornton are rookies. Bech is an inside/outside flex guy and Meyers is the same. Thornton is EXTREMELY raw and is a package player as a rookie to me. He runs two routes. 

 

They don't have a single serviceable true outside vet receiver. 

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Just now, Simon said:

 

I think in one year that Hollins made more clutch plays than Davis did his entire time here.

He also made 100x fewer mistakes, imo.

I get the mistakes part I suppose. 
 

Theres a certain irony that the WR who probably has the most clutch WR game in franchise history is considered not clutch though.

 

I must have missed some Gabe Davis ire. I thought the idea of his return would not have been this poorly received. 

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100% Bring Gabe back if it makes sense.

 

Hes not a WR2, which is what Buffalo and Jax wanted him to be.

 

He is an elite blocker and good big body deep threat who would be our WR4/5. 
 

Palmer, Coleman and Shakir is the core, and after that we have oft-injured Samuel and newly signed Moore. 
 

Bring back Gabe and tell Moore that we carry 6 WR’s as long as he’s our punt returner. 
 

If Samuel manages to stay healthy all year, good problem to have.   If not, we still have a solid WR room. 

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Just now, Bullfrog said:

I personally see shakir as a slot. Legit question. Do you see shakir being as good on the outside? Where do you see him fit in?

Shakir is our starter in the slot.  Shakir goes in motion and ends up outside sometimes.  In this offense he's not going to replace a 6'2" 220lb X WR outside but he could take snaps out there.  He's roughly the same size as Diggs was but almost all his snaps are slot for us.  Moore will most likely do Shakir things and it's good to have him we need that.  

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