Bills Sign WR Josh Palmer 3-$36M

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

4 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

We need Keon to take a step this season. It will help guys like Palmer.

 

Keon and Kincaid both taking a step would be huge for us. 

[Billy Claude]

21 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/josh-palmer/  88.6% True catch rate ie receptions vs catchable passes but if go by target than it falls to 60% but to me that says more about how poor Hebert was at throwing to him since such a large gap. 

 

It can also be because he wasn't where the QB thought he should be.   Bills fans have said the same thing about Gabe Davis and Jet fans (and presumably Brown fans) have said the same thing about Elijah Moore to explain the higher percentage of uncatchable passes to those receivers.

 

[Einstein's Dog]

11 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Palmer's biggest knock on him coming out of college was his limited production.  That continued in the NFL before Roman got there.  Plus, McKonkey seemed fine in Roman's offense.  I think Palmer is who he is at this point.  I'd be happy if he's a slight upgrade over Hollins who should be able to get open against man better than Mack could. 

I think we need Palmer to do better than what Cooper did- possible since Cooper underperformed expectations IMO.

 

The Hollins upgrade needs to come from K Coleman.  That is a large, but doable, jump.

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

 

Keon and Kincaid both taking a step would be huge for us. 

It's a must at this point. 

[oldmanfan]

9 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

It's a must at this point. 

I too think we need to see improvement, but a must?  Recall we had one of the best offenses in the league last year. 
 

Kincaid should be better coming back from injury, and Coleman should be better having gained necessary experience last year..

[Ben]

Coleman did enough pre injury that there's reason for optimism. He needs to make a big jump but it's not a pipe dream 

[TheBrownBear]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

I too think we need to see improvement, but a must?  Recall we had one of the best offenses in the league last year. 
 

Kincaid should be better coming back from injury, and Coleman should be better having gained necessary experience last year..

We lost Cooper and Hollins.  Say what you will about their production, but they were both veterans who knew their roles and did things the right way.  If Coleman and Kincaid don't step up (or God forbid they backslide), we'll need big contributions from Moore and Palmer.

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

I too think we need to see improvement, but a must?  Recall we had one of the best offenses in the league last year. 
 

Kincaid should be better coming back from injury, and Coleman should be better having gained necessary experience last year..

Yes must.  First they need to live up to where they were drafted, second teams will defend us differently now they have a year of film on us.

[oldmanfan]

13 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Yes must.  First they need to live up to where they were drafted, second teams will defend us differently now they have a year of film on us.

I think you’ve brought this film thing up before.  You imply that the Bills are the only team in the league that does not review film.  Teams may change defenses and the Bills will look at film and alter strategies as needed.  I would also remind you that teams the latter part of last year had an entire season of film on Brady’s offense, yet we scored more points than anyone.  The formation with 4 guys on one side of the formation and one guy on the other was in particular very successful; teams knew Brady would run it but had trouble stopping it.

23 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

We lost Cooper and Hollins.  Say what you will about their production, but they were both veterans who knew their roles and did things the right way.  If Coleman and Kincaid don't step up (or God forbid they backslide), we'll need big contributions from Moore and Palmer.

I really don’t think Cooper gave us much, but we’ll miss Hollins as much for his blocking and special teams work as his receiving.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

17 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I don't know man.  Quentin Johnston had better numbers than him last year.  QUENTIN JOHNSTON!!!!!!!!!  

Palmers numbers stunk last season.  And this was with MANConkey on the field at the same time getting all the attention from defenses

 

Palmer 2024

Rec 39

Yards 584 yards

Avg 15 yards

TD 1

Edited Wednesday at 08:06 PM by JakeFrommStateFarm

[todd]

5 hours ago, Ben said:

Coleman did enough pre injury that there's reason for optimism. He needs to make a big jump but it's not a pipe dream 

Agreed. I rewatched the season recently. The difference pre- and post-injury was significant. Arrow was definitely point up early in the season. We saw glimpses of why he was drafted. Fought for balls, good catch radius. Aggressive and looked strong. Totally different after.

 

[BullBuchanan]

8 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I think we need Palmer to do better than what Cooper did- possible since Cooper underperformed expectations IMO.

 

The Hollins upgrade needs to come from K Coleman.  That is a large, but doable, jump.

Didn't Coleman already outperform Hollins last year?

Edited Wednesday at 10:18 PM by BullBuchanan

[Einstein's Dog]

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

Didn't Coleman already outperform Hollins last year?

Well, I mean Coleman will need to pick up the stats left behind with the departure of Hollins in addition to what Coleman did last year. 

 

Hollins had a lot of snaps and did a good job blocking - the hope is Coleman can help take over and fill that void while improving on the receiving duties.

[Don Otreply]

20 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Yes must.  First they need to live up to where they were drafted, second teams will defend us differently now they have a year of film on us.

A players draft position is on the team that picks them, it’s not on the player, as well, the offense will be doing things a bit differently from what we did last season, that is what good offenses do from season to season, Coleman was doing fine before Poyer broke his wrist, and it ain’t no joke catching rockets from Allen’s launcher while rehabbing from that injury, Keon will be fine, as will Kincaid, I’m not concerned in the least, 😁👍

[Ya Digg?]

20 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

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I really don’t think Cooper gave us much, but we’ll miss Hollins as much for his blocking and special teams work as his receiving.

If the best thing you can say about a receiver is his blocking, that’s not very difficult to replace. We all loved Hollins while he was here, but to make it sound like he won’t be replaced rather easily is far fetched 

[Warriorspikes51]

22 hours ago, Ben said:

Coleman did enough pre injury that there's reason for optimism. He needs to make a big jump but it's not a pipe dream 

 

I'm not sure what to think. Most of the metrics are troubling.  I thought he looked good for 3 games 

21 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

We lost Cooper and Hollins.  Say what you will about their production, but they were both veterans who knew their roles and did things the right way.  If Coleman and Kincaid don't step up (or God forbid they backslide), we'll need big contributions from Moore and Palmer.

Or, we'll need to make a trade again.

 

if he still wants to play, I'd sign Keenan Allen. If he still looks good in camp, it's a good problem to have

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

A players draft position is on the team that picks them, it’s not on the player, as well, the offense will be doing things a bit differently from what we did last season, that is what good offenses do from season to season, Coleman was doing fine before Poyer broke his wrist, and it ain’t no joke catching rockets from Allen’s launcher while rehabbing from that injury, Keon will be fine, as will Kincaid, I’m not concerned in the least, 😁👍

I will wait until Coleman and Kincaid show us they have improved.

 

That said, IF the defense can step up it's less pressure on Allen and the Offense.

[NoSaint]

On 5/21/2025 at 10:53 AM, SoonerBillsFan said:

It's a must at this point. 

hitting on at least one of your two top picks at pass catcher is quite possibly the gap between championship and just very good team 

[Bockeye]

On 5/21/2025 at 7:53 AM, SoonerBillsFan said:

It's a must at this point. 

I agree, but having said this - with their production last year, we’d be in the SB if we had a defense.  

[BillsFanForever19]

7 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

if he still wants to play, I'd sign Keenan Allen. If he still looks good in camp, it's a good problem to have

 

We have Khalil Shakir in the Slot. We've got Curtis Samuel, who was out of the Slot on 42% of his snaps last season (may increase this year with Palmer and if Keon stays healthy). We've got Dalton Kincaid, who was out of the Slot on 46% of his snaps last season.

 

Why on earth would we bring in a 33 year old predominantly Slot WR? If we were interested in Keenan Allen as our 5th WR, we'd have signed him after the Draft. They wanted an Outside guy with Speed, which is why they went with Elijah Moore instead.