Giants are releasing QB Daniel Jones (future backup to Josh Allen)

[wjag]

So there has to be a story behind the scenes here.  Jones or his agent must have forced this.  On the surface this makes little sense.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Waivers or no?

 

We have become a bit of the destination for QB1s who flamed out but wish to remake their image and land another job to compete.
 

Doubt it happens. But I would be all for him as QB2.

 

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:12 PM, wjag said:

So there has to be a story behind the scenes here.  Jones or his agent must have forced this.  On the surface this makes little sense.

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Jones gets: to not play scout team safety

 

NYG get: to not pay Jones even more $ for getting injured needlessly playing scout team safety

 

Fair trade

Edited November 22, 2024 by JohnBonhamRocks

[Logic]

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:12 PM, wjag said:

So there has to be a story behind the scenes here.  Jones or his agent must have forced this.  On the surface this makes little sense.

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Yeah Jones walked into President Mara's office and asked for his release, a request which Mara granted.

That's about it.

[finn]

We already have Daniel Jones for a backup, or his clone anyway. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

So he’ll clear waivers and then some team with a bad QB situation will take a flier on him, right?

[BillsfaninSB]

Will go to the 49ers is my guess as a FA. 

[Captain Hindsight]

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:04 PM, MJS said:

Osweiler made $41 million in the NFL. Russell made about $40 million. Sam Bradford's $129 million takes the cake, I think.

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Bradford was pretty good when was healthy. He was just constantly hurt

[Bruffalo]

 

Probably the right choice though. 

[C.Biscuit97]

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:04 PM, eball said:

 

Bad take.

 

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If you think paying $7 million/ year to a guy who has had 36 catches for about 360 in 2 years with 3 total td is nothing short of an awful contract, I don’t know what to tell you. 
 

great dude. Awful contract. 

[Bruffalo]

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:18 PM, strive_for_five_guy said:

So he’ll clear waivers and then some team with a bad QB situation will take a flier on him, right?

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Nate Peterman is still inexplicably in the league. Daniel Jones will find a backup role somewhere. 

[Captain Hindsight]

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:12 PM, wjag said:

So there has to be a story behind the scenes here.  Jones or his agent must have forced this.  On the surface this makes little sense.

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He asked for his release. Giants granted it. Not much more to it 

[C.Biscuit97]

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:17 PM, finn said:

We already have Daniel Jones for a backup, or his clone anyway. 

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Jones isn’t good but he certainly more talented than Mitch. 

[Albany,n.y.]

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:01 PM, ColoradoBills said:

Remember the draft when the Giants took Daniel Jones.

 

 

 

 

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There were plenty of these types of videos the year before when we chose Josh Allen over Josh Rosen.  It's kind of ironic that when Jones was drafted the Giants fans wanted the other Josh Allen who is now known as Josh Hines-Allen.  It's too bad there are no videos (that I'm aware of) showing Giants fans calling for Josh in 2018 & going nuts when they picked Barkley.  

Edited November 22, 2024 by Albany,n.y.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I'm reading Jones asked to be released. 

 

There is also a 70m dead cap hit.

 

Looks like daboll and Schoen are getting fired

Edited November 22, 2024 by JakeFrommStateFarm

[Toledo Bill]

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:04 PM, eball said:

 

Bad take.

 

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Curious, do you feel that their relationship had nothing to do with the extension?

[C.Biscuit97]

  On 11/22/2024 at 4:57 PM, MJS said:

Sam Bradford. That dude was a highway robber in the NFL. He fleeced the NFL for $129 million. Jones is only at about $72 million in career earnings, according to over the cap.

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https://stathead.com/football/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=JoneDa05&player_id1=BradSa00&request=1&utm_id=BradSa00&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_source=pfr&utm_medium=sr_xsite
 

pretty close comparison but I think Bradford was actually talented. He just got hurt all the time. That’s why teams traded multiple 1sts for him. No one would trade for Jones. Point taken though and I am guilty of overstating how bad he was (part of it is the way rookie qbs contracts are now). 

[MJS]

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:20 PM, Captain Hindsight said:

Bradford was pretty good when was healthy. He was just constantly hurt

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He was never really that good, honestly. He never led his team to a winning record anywhere he was. His 2016 season was actually pretty good statistically, but that's about all. He had a career passer rating of 84.5. Not starter caliber.

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:25 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

https://stathead.com/football/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=JoneDa05&player_id1=BradSa00&request=1&utm_id=BradSa00&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_source=pfr&utm_medium=sr_xsite
 

pretty close comparison but I think Bradford was actually talented. He just got hurt all the time. That’s why teams traded multiple 1sts for him. No one would trade for Jones. Point taken though and I am guilty of overstating how bad he was (part of it is the way rookie qbs contracts are now). 

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Agreed. The rookie wage scale really helped teams from making franchise altering mistakes right out of the gate with guys.

[C.Biscuit97]

  On 11/22/2024 at 4:48 PM, Mr. WEO said:

The only thing the Giants have going for them is the Jets.

 

 

At least one can argue that, recently, the Jets were trying to go all in.  The Giants have been doing nothing of the sort since Daboll got there.  Easily the worst team/organization in NJ...

 

Mara/Tisch deserve all the scorn Woody is getting.  They are clueless.

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Except they have 2 SBs in the 2000s. You get cut a lot of slack for that. But I agree otherwise. 
 

The Buffalo Bills are the model franchise in NYS (and NJ!).

[DapperCam]

I’d take him as backup next year, he’s better than Mitch.

 

He could start for the Cowboys the rest of the season. It’s possible he could start for the Raiders too. I wonder if he signs somewhere right away.

[eball]

  On 11/22/2024 at 5:21 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

If you think paying $7 million/ year to a guy who has had 36 catches for about 360 in 2 years with 3 total td is nothing short of an awful contract, I don’t know what to tell you. 
 

great dude. Awful contract. 

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Too many people get hung up on the numbers.  He has not been asked to be the #1 receiving TE but he plays more snaps than Kincaid.  He is, in effect, an additional offensive lineman who can also get down the field and catch.  He's valuable to this team in a number of ways and his contract is not a burden.

 

Like I said...bad take.