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14 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Has there been any news on the specifics of Bishop's arm injury?  


I wasn’t overly concerned initially.  Even after seeing a few false reports (trolls) about the nature/severity of Cole’s injury on social media.

 

The report was that his arm was heavily wrapped (I assumed ice), and that he left the field but remained at practice.  These were some promising “clues” to me.

 

Given that nothing has been made public, I’m growing a bit more worried.  Especially with the day off today.  

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15 minutes ago, eball said:

Poyer was borderline awful last year.  He may have communicated well but he became a liability physically.

 

When evaluating Poyer last season, it's probably important to keep in mind that 20-30% of the time, he was essentially being asked to play "linebacker lite" up near the LOS, substituting for Dodson and with Rapp backfilliing him at Safety 

But yeah, it was pretty clear he had lost a big step (Hyde too)

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29 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:


I wasn’t overly concerned initially.  Even after seeing a few false reports (trolls) about the nature/severity of Cole’s injury on social media.

 

The report was that his arm was heavily wrapped (I assumed ice), and that he left the field but remained at practice.  These were some promising “clues” to me.

 

Given that nothing has been made public, I’m growing a bit more worried.  Especially with the day off today.  

Hoping it's just a hyper-extension with no structural damage. He's almost surely getting an MRI today. 

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The more the safety position gets depleted, the more I am sure Hyde will play for this team at some point this season.  It will not obviously be during camp and the preseason but, unfortunately, it may be earlier in the season than would be desired depending on the length of these injuries.  Hopefully these guys will be able to come back sooner than later, but one is a vet that has been out basically since he got here and hasn't had many on field reps and the other is, while a promising rookie, is still a rookie.  They may need Hyde just to get them through a few games if the position turns into a liability.  Frustrating injury start to camp at that position.

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1 hour ago, Blackbeard said:

We were blessed with Poyer and Hyde all these years.

 

Almost wishing we would've kept Poyer at this point.

Poyer and Rapp play the same strong safety position, if he were here, we'd still need to be signing guys for the more Free Safety spot.

 

Obviously McDermott doesn't do the traditional SS/FS spots, but skill set wise he likes an in the box hard hitter who can cover (Poyer/Rapp) and a rangy deep safety with ball skills (Hyde/Bishop/Edwards/Hamlin).  

 

Hyde would be the one you'd want back, and frankly the man clearly is mentally not prepared to play, so you don't want him.  I Loved Hyde, but he's old, worn down, and mentally not where he needs to be.  Even if he reported today, that's not a solution.

 

 

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52 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Wow. So the safety injuries cost us a punter some thought could win the job.

 

Browning has been shanking punts, I heard. He has a big leg but no consistency.

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2 hours ago, Blackbeard said:

We were blessed with Poyer and Hyde all these years.

 

Almost wishing we would've kept Poyer at this point.

 

I heard Poyer might not even get the starting role in Miami.

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9 minutes ago, MJS said:

Browning has been shanking punts, I heard. He has a big leg but no consistency.

Which is odd because he set the record for net punt average at SDSU, the same school The Punt God attended. 

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1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:


I wasn’t overly concerned initially.  Even after seeing a few false reports (trolls) about the nature/severity of Cole’s injury on social media.

 

The report was that his arm was heavily wrapped (I assumed ice), and that he left the field but remained at practice.  These were some promising “clues” to me.

 

Given that nothing has been made public, I’m growing a bit more worried.  Especially with the day off today.  

Yes, I think this latest signing is not a good sign for Bishop.  I hope we are worried for nothing.

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1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

I wasn’t overly concerned initially.  Even after seeing a few false reports (trolls) about the nature/severity of Cole’s injury on social media.

 

The report was that his arm was heavily wrapped (I assumed ice), and that he left the field but remained at practice.  These were some promising “clues” to me.

 

Given that nothing has been made public, I’m growing a bit more worried.  Especially with the day off today.  

 

I'm unsure about either the promising clues or the worry.

 

I guess we can surmise it wasn't believed to be broken, because otherwise he'd be off getting it set.  But tendon and ligament injuries can be as hard or harder to heal up.

 

I wouldn't worry about the "nothing made public" though.  If McDermott et al weren't required to speak to the media re: injuries, they wouldn't, ever.  They are never required to speak to the media on a day off, so they won't.

 

Plus, he may be in Buffalo getting further tests, specialist exams, etc

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19 minutes ago, FLFan said:

Yes, I think this latest signing is not a good sign for Bishop.  I hope we are worried for nothing.

 

Personally, I thought Terrell Burgess is more of a career Special Teamer.   He's played in 43 games but only started 4; last season he played a grand total of 3 defensive snaps until the last 3 games of the season.

 

On the other hand, he played 82% of the ST snaps for the Commanders and played a lot of teams for the LAR.

 

I don't really think it has much to do with Bishop at all, other than him playing less right now means Hamlin gets more defense reps and they need someone to backfill on ST.  (Kareem Jackson has never played much on ST)

 

 

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52 minutes ago, MR8 said:

Poyer and Rapp play the same strong safety position, if he were here, we'd still need to be signing guys for the more Free Safety spot.

 

Obviously McDermott doesn't do the traditional SS/FS spots, but skill set wise he likes an in the box hard hitter who can cover (Poyer/Rapp) and a rangy deep safety with ball skills (Hyde/Bishop/Edwards/Hamlin).  

 

Hyde would be the one you'd want back, and frankly the man clearly is mentally not prepared to play, so you don't want him.  I Loved Hyde, but he's old, worn down, and mentally not where he needs to be.  Even if he reported today, that's not a solution.

 

<sarcasm. I'm sure you're intimately acquainted with the Hydes and have the inside track on Micah's mental state </sarcasm>

 

I don't disagree Hyde should not be looked to as a solution for the season, and obviously Beane is of that mind or he'd be on the roster.

 

17 minutes ago, Blank Stare said:

Damn. Was hoping Browning would beat out Martin for the full time gig. Oh well…have to adjust when injuries strike. 

 

There are at least a dozen other players at different positions who likely have close to 0 chance to make the roster at this point.

I think we can safely surmise that if Browning had a real chance to beat out Martin at this point, Beane would have cut one of them.

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2 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Eh, I feel like McDermott could grab a reasonably athletic person out of the crowd and they would be serviceable

If there is one good thing about the Bills staff, they rarely rush injury returns. Bernard basically sat out all of camp then started week one. 


McD probably ready to suit up himself!

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