Tua gets the bag - $53M a year

[dcinmuncie]

i liked him better when he kept his mouth shut. if you're gonna suck while getting paid over a million dollar per week, shut the eff up. 

[RobbRiddick]

1 minute ago, dcinmuncie said:

i liked him better when he kept his mouth shut. if you're gonna suck while getting paid over a million dollar per week, shut the eff up. 

Yeah, the cash thing is the deal breaker. I do like Tua, he seems like a really nice guy and he does get a lot of crap thrown at him. But when you consider the insane amount of money he's making for being very average you realize he doesn't really need sympathy as he's laughing all the way to the bank.

 

There was a conversation in the gameday thread last week about QBs like Tua and Lawrence getting crazy money for what they actually give you, and whether teams will be a bit more resistant to signing these guys to huge paydays. 

 

I find the whole franchise QB thing fascinating anyway. there are so few truly great QBs in the league. Then you have guys who come in, have one good season and get talked about like they're top tier (Stroud for example) only to hit a wall and start to regress. I guess teams feel like they have no choice than to pay lots of money for average.

 

We're so lucky we got Josh Allen.

[LeviF]

3 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:

Didn't feel this warranted a new topic but Tua's press conferences are becoming funnier and funnier. After talking about how Josh Allen is an all-round better human being than he is last week, he's now taking shots at fans and Cam Newton.

 

Can't blame him really, anyone who dresses like Cam deserves what they get. Go get em Tua!!!

 

 

 

Cam Newton, most famous for holding a clicker and podcasting about QB play.

 

Has this dude been concussed so much that he forgot about an MVP from the last decade?

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:

Didn't feel this warranted a new topic but Tua's press conferences are becoming funnier and funnier. After talking about how Josh Allen is an all-round better human being than he is last week, he's now taking shots at fans and Cam Newton.

 

Can't blame him really, anyone who dresses like Cam deserves what they get. Go get em Tua!!!

 

 

Problem is Cam Newton has played QB. Matter of fact he's even gotten his team to a Super Bowl. He's played the quarterback position at a high level and even has an MVP to show for it. He's not just a dude with a clicker or some random fan off the street. 

 

Meanwhile, this moron over here hasn't even won a playoff game. Hasn't logged a win this year. He's an incredibly soft human being. 

[Rubes]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

I wonder what he’d look like with our WRs and OL. He just seems so scared in the pocket nowadays.  I think the years of traumatic experiences have stained him 

Sounds to me like you’re advocating for a straight up one-for-one trade of Allen for Tua…

 

[dcinmuncie]

say what you want about Cam. he dresses like a clown. he can be annoying.

but he did win a national championship. he had one of the greatest college football seasons i've ever seen.

he was the first overall pick. he led his team to a superbowl appearance and has an MVP. not exactly a guy with a clicker. he knows his football

[Cubanmist 1]

2 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:

Yeah, the cash thing is the deal breaker. I do like Tua, he seems like a really nice guy and he does get a lot of crap thrown at him. But when you consider the insane amount of money he's making for being very average you realize he doesn't really need sympathy as he's laughing all the way to the bank.

 

There was a conversation in the gameday thread last week about QBs like Tua and Lawrence getting crazy money for what they actually give you, and whether teams will be a bit more resistant to signing these guys to huge paydays. 

 

I find the whole franchise QB thing fascinating anyway. there are so few truly great QBs in the league. Then you have guys who come in, have one good season and get talked about like they're top tier (Stroud for example) only to hit a wall and start to regress. I guess teams feel like they have no choice than to pay lots of money for average.

 

We're so lucky we got Josh Allen.

Reminds me of Fitzpatrick. Dude got paid handsomely despite being mediocre.

[Captain Hindsight]

8 minutes ago, Cubanmist 1 said:

Reminds me of Fitzpatrick. Dude got paid handsomely despite being mediocre.

Hardly. He was paid 59 million over 6 years. 24 million guaranteed. Less than 10 mil a season

[HOUSE]

You know, NFL player salaries should be secret. 

Don't show off the stupidity around the kids...

[WotAGuy]

3 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

The lack of draft investment in the offensive line is this killing their offense. 2 2nd's over the last 2 years and then you plug them in as starters on the left side.  There isn't even consistency in veterans.  It's patchwork at best.  They're a bit banged up so its hard to fully judge - but the backups being all free agents, with 3 free agent starters currently.  Then you have ifedi and daniels who are free agents on IR.  The only guys they've drafted and developed are jackson and eichenberg (whos basically a 6th OL).  

 

2 years ago the dolphins led the league in yards, and were 2nd in scoring.  The key there?  Healthy tua for 17 games, and mostert and achane both had almost 1000 yards.  They also had robert hunt at guard, and armstead at LT for at least portions of the year.  They've since invested 2 2nd round picks, and signed bargain basement free agents who are available largely because they suck.  

Ya love to see it.

[transient]

1 hour ago, LeviF said:

 

Cam Newton, most famous for holding a clicker and podcasting about QB play.

 

Has this dude been concussed so much that he forgot about an MVP from the last decade?

 

34 minutes ago, dcinmuncie said:

say what you want about Cam. he dresses like a clown. he can be annoying.

but he did win a national championship. he had one of the greatest college football seasons i've ever seen.

he was the first overall pick. he led his team to a superbowl appearance and has an MVP. not exactly a guy with a clicker. he knows his football

Yeah, was coming here to espouse the same sentiment. Roll Cam's NFL tape, Tua, and then compare your "accomplishments" to his. This is someone whose criticism actually holds some merit. If the league hadn't let defenders beat the living crap out of Cam he'd probably still be playing at a higher level than Tua.

[Ray Stonada]

28 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Hardly. He was paid 59 million over 6 years. 24 million guaranteed. Less than 10 mil a season

that sounds like

good money to me

[Don Otreply]

3 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

I think he had all the cards.  They had a really good offense in a contract year.  They paid him, gutted the roster to accomodate it, and never drafted well in the lead-up to it.  0 first round picks in 2022 and 2023, and only 8 picks total.  Not exactly adding cheap talent, and other than achane - the other 7 players weren't good.  They also drafted one offensive lineman over that 2 year stretch despite knowing about Tua, Jackson, Hunt, Phillips, and Waddle coming up for extensions.  There's all-in and there's all-insanity.  

 

So now its 2025 - all the extra picks from bottoming out turned into Waddle, Phillips, tua, and jackson.  Then they dumped picks into Ramsey and Hill.  Gone now are Wilkins, Hunt, Holland, Van Ginkel, and Ramsey (probably hill soon too if were being honest).  Paying Tua is part of the problem, as his salary is why certain players had to go.  But so is poor asset management, poor cap management, and poor drafting.  

 

You could argue it worked for the rams as they won a super bowl dumping 1st round picks into players.  But while they didn't have a 1st round pick for a ton of drafts, they never had so few picks to fill out the roster with cheap depth options.  

He did have most of the cards, but he as well had glaring weaknesses as aQB that a FO with any smarts could have taken advantage of in negotiations. Oh well, now our in division opponent gets to suffer there incredibly bad decision making, lol, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

[Gunsgoodtime]

Just seeing the topic now makes me 🤣 

[MJS]

3 hours ago, dcinmuncie said:

i liked him better when he kept his mouth shut. if you're gonna suck while getting paid over a million dollar per week, shut the eff up. 

 

2 hours ago, LeviF said:

Cam Newton, most famous for holding a clicker and podcasting about QB play.

 

Has this dude been concussed so much that he forgot about an MVP from the last decade?

He has to answer media questions. That's part of his job. So, he can't just "shut the eff up".

 

But are we pretending that Cam Newton was some smart, cerebral QB who did the right, smart thing all the time? He had a big arm and great athleticism, which covered up a lot of his other issues. But he also had scattershot accuracy. Cam Newton was a good football player for awhile, but not a great QB, if that makes sense. Plus, I find him way more annoying and conceited than I do Tua.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

He did have most of the cards, but he as well had glaring weaknesses as aQB that a FO with any smarts could have taken advantage of in negotiations. Oh well, now our in division opponent gets to suffer there incredibly bad decision making, lol, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

 

Agreed.  I was just trying to say... the bad decisions go beyond tua.  It's organizational failure, and a number of heads are gonna roll in this one.  

[bigduke6]

5 hours ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

Tua has Waddle, Hill and Achane at his disposal...........28 other teams would kill for that support around their QB. I don't blame the supporting cast, i blame the QB who can't improvise on the fly and get his playmakers the ball and I blame the QB who chokes in critical situations. 

im fully aware of the skill guys.  now name me an OLineman who matters for them.

[transient]

40 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

He has to answer media questions. That's part of his job. So, he can't just "shut the eff up".

 

But are we pretending that Cam Newton was some smart, cerebral QB who did the right, smart thing all the time? He had a big arm and great athleticism, which covered up a lot of his other issues. But he also had scattershot accuracy. Cam Newton was a good football player for awhile, but not a great QB, if that makes sense. Plus, I find him way more annoying and conceited than I do Tua.

It would be different if the criticism was coming from some random talking head who's never played in the NFL, but for Tua to respond to a question about a recent former NFL QB's criticism with "apparently anyone can come off the street and play QB" shows a pretty big lack of insight into Newton's career and his own play this season.

 

I'm no Newton apologist, but it's not that absurd to think that Cam could have come in off the street to Dolphins' camp at 36 and then avg'd 190 yds, 1.6 TDs and 1.3 INTs a game throwing to Waddle and Hill, with Achan in the backfield like Tua is now.  And Newton's point was Tua is making more than Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Baker Mayfield, Matthew Stafford, Jayden Daniels for this production. He's not wrong.

[uninja]

2 hours ago, dcinmuncie said:

say what you want about Cam. he dresses like a clown. he can be annoying.

but he did win a national championship. he had one of the greatest college football seasons i've ever seen.

he was the first overall pick. he led his team to a superbowl appearance and has an MVP. not exactly a guy with a clicker. he knows his football

 

And considering the cast of WRs he had to throw for that Super Bowl run it's honestly even more impressive. People can crap on Cam all they want, for the few years he was he was at his peak in the league he was a force on that Panthers team.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Reminds me of a Lamborghini with no engine

 

Or a Lamborghini with scrambled eggs for an engine.