MasterStrategist Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: Man people are gonna be mad when we draft Chop Robinson. “When Manny Diaz speaks, I listen” McDermott at the press conference. If we stay put at 28, draft Chop, then trade up in the 2nd for Franklin/another WR high on their board them I'm fine with it. Chop has an excellent get off, and DE/pass rusher is a need. Just not as much as WR. Good chance Chop is gone by 28, and I will be mad if they trade up more than a few spots to draft him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SirAndrew Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 32 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Drinking bourbon and taking naps on his porch somewhere in rural Alabama? Between all this draft talk and current spring weather in WNY, that actually sounds amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 24 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 23-28: Xavier Worthy 33-39: Xavier Legette Worthy has been my "hope" since the Fall. He's gonna be an excellent player for whoever drafts him. Not sure Beane trades up to double dip, but I'm certainly more than fine if that's our combo. Perfect complementary types and could give us a very young/affordable group of playmakers for multiple years. Definitely think we need 2 WRs. Javon Baker or Tez Walker are potential fall back options at 60, or moving back from 60 to acquire more picks on Day 2/very early day 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 16 minutes ago, Evansfan322 said: I would love a move back and get Legette and Pearsall Carolina is rumored to be taking Legette at 33 if he’s available. So can’t move back too far if you want him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I think we have too many holes to spend a bunch of capital trading up for something that isn’t even a sure thing anyway. Spend the capital on a sure thing (vet WR trade), or stay pat and plug holes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 7 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I think you meant positions, not possessions. Yes, you and I have been saying this for a while. I think the handwriting was on the wall when they got Samuel. And add Kincaid in there. And Cook. They want to put a bunch of guys out there that are interchangeable. I wrote something a few days ago about the fact that McCaffrey is so much more valuable than Saquon. When McCaffrey was in college I just didn't get how good he was. I thought he was a great college player who would stumble in the pros. Well, no. He's great, and he's great because he's good enough to be a good starting running back and (almost) a starting receiver. That's a weapon. Singletary was that kind of back, just not as good. I very much think that body type doesn't determine a valuable receiver. I don't like Metcalf, even though he has one of the all-time great bodies - size and speed. Heart, quickness, change of direction, brains. That's what wins now. Yep that's what I meant. Pain meds and auto correct do not mix 😁. This is why I think we stand pat at 28, or trade down, and take Franklin either scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 WR is most obvious need by far. Extremely strong wr draft. Bills will pick wr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: Yep that's what I meant. Pain meds and auto correct do not mix 😁. This is why I think we stand pat at 28, or trade down, and take Franklin either scenario. And I've been reading posts that Thurman did earlier in this thread, talking about the fact that teams don't do well trading up into the top of the first round. I've often thought that you do it for a QB, but no other position is worth it. One receiver is very rarely as valuable as the three guys you would have drafted if you kept the picks. I mean, if I knew it was Jerry Rice, okay, but Jerry Rice isn't available. In fact, in the modern NFL, Jerry Rice probably isn't as valuable as the real Jerry Rice was. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 one thing is for sure, tomorrow at this time there are going to be some aggressive teams doing really aggressively aggressive stuff. And when they are done backwards hat guy on youtube is going to hate everything they did. and no matter what somehow everything will work out for the chiefs and they will be even better by the end of the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: AI mean, if I knew it was Jerry Rice, okay, but Jerry Rice isn't available. In fact, in the modern NFL, Jerry Rice probably isn't as valuable as the real Jerry Rice was. His son is available. I might take a flyer on him on Day 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I rarely post, but feel I owe the community an outlandish projection. And I have earned the right. - KNEW that Allen was the Josh before the pick when 90% of this board had Rosen. - Picked Oliver as the target. - Sorta knew Kinnkaid was the man. - Strongly believed Diggs would be traded even though everyone claimed the cap was a no-go. - IDK, I may be in Beane's head ... that's why I need to type this. With that out of the way: Setting the stage: - Most teams now regard Malik Nabers as the #1 WR - MHJ dropped a bit due to non-combine participation. - Rome is showing up on more mocks out of the top 10. - AZ is going to cash in on a trade-down. - And if AZ doesn't, the Chargers will. - LAC could go WR, but almost everyone expects Joe Alt. - The Giants likely shut out of QB convo, will go WR - TN is all about an OT. Maybe like LAC. - Bills signed L Collins. - Diggs was not the only player feeling their oats on Twitter. D Dawkins was there too with his predictions. And post-season, with the googly eyes hoping he would get his extension. 3x20m. - LAC wants to move down, and TN needs OT too. The Terms: - If the Bills believe they have a replacement on the roster for Dawkins, he will be used as trade bait for LAC/TN. - Bills could then make that trade without exhausting this and next year's draft capital. - 28, 60, 2025 2nd for 1.5/7 + 4th. Projection: - 1-4 QB - LAC - Joe Alt - NYG select - Nabers, a diva in waiting. He will make Diggs and his passive-aggressive antics look like a straight-shooting choirboy. - Bills via TN - MHJ. I may be overestimating Dawkins' return. And of course, misreading the tea leaves. But that is my Mighty Kreskin moment for the 2024 NFL Draft. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I can almost guarantee one of the WRs we want really bad will be there at 60. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, alg said: I rarely post, but feel I owe the community an outlandish projection. And I have earned the right. - KNEW that Allen was the Josh before the pick when 90% of this board had Rosen. - Picked Oliver as the target. - Sorta knew Kinnkaid was the man. - Strongly believed Diggs would be traded even though everyone claimed the cap was a no-go. - IDK, I may be in Beane's head ... that's why I need to type this. With that out of the way: Setting the stage: - Most teams now regard Malik Nabers as the #1 WR - MHJ dropped a bit due to non-combine participation. - Rome is showing up on more mocks out of the top 10. - AZ is going to cash in on a trade-down. - And if AZ doesn't, the Chargers will. - LAC could go WR, but almost everyone expects Joe Alt. - The Giants likely shut out of QB convo, will go WR - TN is all about an OT. Maybe like LAC. - Bills signed L Collins. - Diggs was not the only player feeling their oats on Twitter. D Dawkins was there too with his predictions. And post-season, with the googly eyes hoping he would get his extension. 3x20m. - LAC wants to move down, and TN needs OT too. The Terms: - If the Bills believe they have a replacement on the roster for Dawkins, he will be used as trade bait for LAC/TN. - Bills could then make that trade without exhausting this and next year's draft capital. - 28, 60, 2025 2nd for 1.5/7 + 4th. Projection: - 1-4 QB - LAC - Joe Alt - NYG select - Nabers, a diva in waiting. He will make Diggs and his passive-aggressive antics look like a straight-shooting choirboy. - Bills via TN - MHJ. I may be overestimating Dawkins' return. And of course, misreading the tea leaves. But that is my Mighty Kreskin moment for the 2024 NFL Draft. You’re on the money about Nabers. He’s trouble. MHJ is the HOF superstar in this class. Pair him with Allen and he reach his dad’s level. The Dawkins scenario would be a surprise to me. He strikes me as a great locker room culture guy although the DJ Vlad shirtless stuff turned me off a bit. No clue who the replacement would be at LT. IDK if Collin’s is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I can almost guarantee one of the WRs we want really bad will be there at 60. Completely disagree. They will all be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, alg said: I rarely post, but feel I owe the community an outlandish projection. And I have earned the right. - KNEW that Allen was the Josh before the pick when 90% of this board had Rosen. - Picked Oliver as the target. - Sorta knew Kinnkaid was the man. - Strongly believed Diggs would be traded even though everyone claimed the cap was a no-go. - IDK, I may be in Beane's head ... that's why I need to type this. With that out of the way: Setting the stage: - Most teams now regard Malik Nabers as the #1 WR - MHJ dropped a bit due to non-combine participation. - Rome is showing up on more mocks out of the top 10. - AZ is going to cash in on a trade-down. - And if AZ doesn't, the Chargers will. - LAC could go WR, but almost everyone expects Joe Alt. - The Giants likely shut out of QB convo, will go WR - TN is all about an OT. Maybe like LAC. - Bills signed L Collins. - Diggs was not the only player feeling their oats on Twitter. D Dawkins was there too with his predictions. And post-season, with the googly eyes hoping he would get his extension. 3x20m. - LAC wants to move down, and TN needs OT too. The Terms: - If the Bills believe they have a replacement on the roster for Dawkins, he will be used as trade bait for LAC/TN. - Bills could then make that trade without exhausting this and next year's draft capital. - 28, 60, 2025 2nd for 1.5/7 + 4th. Projection: - 1-4 QB - LAC - Joe Alt - NYG select - Nabers, a diva in waiting. He will make Diggs and his passive-aggressive antics look like a straight-shooting choirboy. - Bills via TN - MHJ. I may be overestimating Dawkins' return. And of course, misreading the tea leaves. But that is my Mighty Kreskin moment for the 2024 NFL Draft. Just remember what the cigarette smoking man said😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 minutes ago, alg said: I rarely post, but feel I owe the community an outlandish projection. And I have earned the right. - KNEW that Allen was the Josh before the pick when 90% of this board had Rosen. - Picked Oliver as the target. - Sorta knew Kinnkaid was the man. - Strongly believed Diggs would be traded even though everyone claimed the cap was a no-go. - IDK, I may be in Beane's head ... that's why I need to type this. With that out of the way: Setting the stage: - Most teams now regard Malik Nabers as the #1 WR - MHJ dropped a bit due to non-combine participation. - Rome is showing up on more mocks out of the top 10. - AZ is going to cash in on a trade-down. - And if AZ doesn't, the Chargers will. - LAC could go WR, but almost everyone expects Joe Alt. - The Giants likely shut out of QB convo, will go WR - TN is all about an OT. Maybe like LAC. - Bills signed L Collins. - Diggs was not the only player feeling their oats on Twitter. D Dawkins was there too with his predictions. And post-season, with the googly eyes hoping he would get his extension. 3x20m. - LAC wants to move down, and TN needs OT too. The Terms: - If the Bills believe they have a replacement on the roster for Dawkins, he will be used as trade bait for LAC/TN. - Bills could then make that trade without exhausting this and next year's draft capital. - 28, 60, 2025 2nd for 1.5/7 + 4th. Projection: - 1-4 QB - LAC - Joe Alt - NYG select - Nabers, a diva in waiting. He will make Diggs and his passive-aggressive antics look like a straight-shooting choirboy. - Bills via TN - MHJ. I may be overestimating Dawkins' return. And of course, misreading the tea leaves. But that is my Mighty Kreskin moment for the 2024 NFL Draft. So what are you saying the offer is exactly because it looks like you’re saying Dawkins plus a bounty of picks still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, alg said: I rarely post, but feel I owe the community an outlandish projection. And I have earned the right. - KNEW that Allen was the Josh before the pick when 90% of this board had Rosen. - Picked Oliver as the target. - Sorta knew Kinnkaid was the man. - Strongly believed Diggs would be traded even though everyone claimed the cap was a no-go. - IDK, I may be in Beane's head ... that's why I need to type this. With that out of the way: Setting the stage: - Most teams now regard Malik Nabers as the #1 WR - MHJ dropped a bit due to non-combine participation. - Rome is showing up on more mocks out of the top 10. - AZ is going to cash in on a trade-down. - And if AZ doesn't, the Chargers will. - LAC could go WR, but almost everyone expects Joe Alt. - The Giants likely shut out of QB convo, will go WR - TN is all about an OT. Maybe like LAC. - Bills signed L Collins. - Diggs was not the only player feeling their oats on Twitter. D Dawkins was there too with his predictions. And post-season, with the googly eyes hoping he would get his extension. 3x20m. - LAC wants to move down, and TN needs OT too. The Terms: - If the Bills believe they have a replacement on the roster for Dawkins, he will be used as trade bait for LAC/TN. - Bills could then make that trade without exhausting this and next year's draft capital. - 28, 60, 2025 2nd for 1.5/7 + 4th. Projection: - 1-4 QB - LAC - Joe Alt - NYG select - Nabers, a diva in waiting. He will make Diggs and his passive-aggressive antics look like a straight-shooting choirboy. - Bills via TN - MHJ. I may be overestimating Dawkins' return. And of course, misreading the tea leaves. But that is my Mighty Kreskin moment for the 2024 NFL Draft. Great to hear from you Brandon 😂… Bills just paid Dawkins an $11m Signing bonus just to trade him a month later ? They really lighting Pegs money on fire this offseason .. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 7 minutes ago, alg said: I rarely post, but feel I owe the community an outlandish projection. And I have earned the right. - KNEW that Allen was the Josh before the pick when 90% of this board had Rosen. - Picked Oliver as the target. - Sorta knew Kinnkaid was the man. - Strongly believed Diggs would be traded even though everyone claimed the cap was a no-go. - IDK, I may be in Beane's head ... that's why I need to type this. With that out of the way: Setting the stage: - Most teams now regard Malik Nabers as the #1 WR - MHJ dropped a bit due to non-combine participation. - Rome is showing up on more mocks out of the top 10. - AZ is going to cash in on a trade-down. - And if AZ doesn't, the Chargers will. - LAC could go WR, but almost everyone expects Joe Alt. - The Giants likely shut out of QB convo, will go WR - TN is all about an OT. Maybe like LAC. - Bills signed L Collins. - Diggs was not the only player feeling their oats on Twitter. D Dawkins was there too with his predictions. And post-season, with the googly eyes hoping he would get his extension. 3x20m. - LAC wants to move down, and TN needs OT too. The Terms: - If the Bills believe they have a replacement on the roster for Dawkins, he will be used as trade bait for LAC/TN. - Bills could then make that trade without exhausting this and next year's draft capital. - 28, 60, 2025 2nd for 1.5/7 + 4th. Projection: - 1-4 QB - LAC - Joe Alt - NYG select - Nabers, a diva in waiting. He will make Diggs and his passive-aggressive antics look like a straight-shooting choirboy. - Bills via TN - MHJ. I may be overestimating Dawkins' return. And of course, misreading the tea leaves. But that is my Mighty Kreskin moment for the 2024 NFL Draft. Collins can not play left tackle in any situation in 2024 on this team. He is at best the swing tackle on gameday and a possible replacement at left guard during the season if edwards is struggling. I am not convinced collins makes the final roster out of camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Great to hear from you Brandon 😂… Bills just paid Dawkins an $11m Signing bonus just to trade him a month later ? They really lighting Pegs money on fire this offseason .. The $11m makes a difference. Not sure how much. 2 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Collins can not play left tackle in any situation in 2024 on this team. He is at best the swing tackle on gameday and a possible replacement at left guard during the season if edwards is struggling. I am not convinced collins makes the final roster out of camp. Not Collins. Backup only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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