DrDawkinstein Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, boater said: You answered your own question. Due to Diggs malcontent behavior, it was a market where the buyers had control. Maybe the Texans were the only takers. His behavior was the least of it. He's a 31 (going to be 32) year old WR with a big contract on the downslide of his career. Compared to what other teams got in trade for their WRs, we did well. If an NFC team was offering a 4th, like what the Chargers got for Allen, then I'll take the 2nd in-Conference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: They have alot to prove this season before I can day they passed us Certainly. Yes, it is a prediction, educated guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, SCBills said: Don't think there was much of a market for Diggs tbh. Beane's only real leverage was basically "ok, we'll just keep him then". Once the Texans came up with a 2nd Rounder, yes next year, but also attached to the Vikings, it makes sense. That's potentially a Top 40 pick next year. And while the Texans should win that division.. I am interested to see Stroud in Year 2 against this schedule: Jaguars x2 Colts x2 Titans x2 Home Ravens Bills Dolphins Bears Lions Away Cowboys Packers Vikings Chiefs Jets Patriots Everybody ready for the insufferable takes here if the Bills lose on the road at houston? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Amari Cooper went for a 5th as a 26 year old in the prime of his career. A 2nd for Diggs was great value. I agree with you, what’s your point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I wonder what Dabol and Shoen offered, if anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: who cares? I don't know why, but I actually laughed out loud to this. Appreciate you good sir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 4 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: I agree with you, what’s your point? Can you help me out here? You're surprised we got anything for Diggs but then say that you're not convinced a 2nd was the best offer? On 4/3/2024 at 11:55 AM, TheWeatherMan said: We didn’t have a #1 last year either and our #3 was a #4 at best. I’m honestly surprised we got anything for Diggs looking at his last 10 games. 2 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said: This was Diggs preferred destination and Beane did right by him, I’m not convinced this was the best offer on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I’ll give you one guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) If Diggs wasn’t the missing piece to get Minnie or us over the hump, why would it be any different for the Texans? Edited April 4 by NoHuddleKelly12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: If Diggs couldn’t help get Minnie or us over the hump, why would it be any different for the Texans? Although, Huds, he could Eichel Houston to a championship. and thank you, my friend, for your kind words earlier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 To me it's not all about "why the Texans" as it is why don't we value WRs like other teams do? Texans have 2 great WRs and go out and get a third for example. Buffalo need a good WR 1 or 2 (depending how you felt about Diggs) and they trade him. Then there's losing Gabe Davis (again, how do you feel about him?) but it all comes down to Buffalo ever only having 1 true guy defenses had to worry about in Diggs. At this moment we have none. Ok, sorry we have Curtis Samuel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Can you help me out here? You're surprised we got anything for Diggs but then say that you're not convinced a 2nd was the best offer? He's just a malcontent raging against anything he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, Goin Breakdown said: To me it's not all about "why the Texans" as it is why don't we value WRs like other teams do? Texans have 2 great WRs and go out and get a third for example. Buffalo need a good WR 1 or 2 (depending how you felt about Diggs) and they trade him. Then there's losing Gabe Davis (again, how do you feel about him?) but it all comes down to Buffalo ever only having 1 true guy defenses had to worry about in Diggs. At this moment we have none. Ok, sorry we have Curtis Samuel. Stroud is on rookie deal they can afford to take chances like this. Digg's performance no longer met the headache the team was willing to put up with so they moved him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: To me it's not all about "why the Texans" as it is why don't we value WRs like other teams do? Texans have 2 great WRs and go out and get a third for example. Buffalo need a good WR 1 or 2 (depending how you felt about Diggs) and they trade him. Then there's losing Gabe Davis (again, how do you feel about him?) but it all comes down to Buffalo ever only having 1 true guy defenses had to worry about in Diggs. At this moment we have none. Ok, sorry we have Curtis Samuel. I am not going to poo-poo you at all, GB. I badly wanted at least one season of a 1(A) and 1(B). Right now we are: 1(HOPEFULLY in the draft), 2(somebody?), a solid and productive TE, and a 3 (whichever of Samuel or Shakir isn't possibly the 2). It is OK, though, the Sabres didn't value offense when Hasek was here. They didn't get him any help and it didn't really hurt them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, billieve420 said: Stroud is on rookie deal they can afford to take chances like this. Digg's performance no longer met the headache the team was willing to put up with so they moved him. I get that and you're right. Josh was on a rookie contract at one point and Buffalo never gave him this much help as stroud is getting or Burrow or Hurts at one point, Tua and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 hours ago, Rich Stadium Original said: Forgive me in advance if this subject came up somewhere in the 116 pages of the Diggs is traded thread, but... Let's assume the Diggs trade had to happen now...why the Texans?...Yes his production is way down, but even at 31 he's still got a lot left in the tank...and you may have handed the team that, at least on paper, seems to now be the most talent laden in the AFC. People certainly would be up in arms if we dealt him to the Chiefs or Bengals, but the Texans may be a tougher "out" this season. My biggest complaint in this whole matter is that Beane couldn't find a trade partner in the NFC, or a team in the AFC searching for a QB and not a threat. Maybe other GMs around the league are wary now that Diggs has whined his way off of two teams, and weren't willing to give up a second round pick. Diggs would have vetoed going to any team that isn’t a contender. Why did we trade him? Because he’s 31 and he didn’t want to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I am not going to poo-poo you at all, GB. I badly wanted at least one season of a 1(A) and 1(B). Right now we are: 1(HOPEFULLY in the draft), 2(somebody?), a solid and productive TE, and a 3 (whichever of Samuel or Shakir isn't possibly the 2). It is OK, though, the Sabres didn't value offense when Hasek was here. They didn't get him any help and it didn't really hurt them. I appreciate it! I like that you said hopefully. And I am hopeful with Shakir but until most recently buffalo hasn't fully trusted Shakir imo. Unlike the dude tho and have hope for him to be a great slot guy. Kincaid will have to dominate this year. So you're right. Hopeful about the draft! It'll be exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 hours ago, Success said: The Texans are being overrated. I said it yesterday - people should check their schedule last season. They didn't beat many good teams. They'll have a 1st place schedule this year, and won't catch teams by surprise like they did in '23. Not that they won't be in contention, but they haven't proven much to me yet. Just tell us you didn't watch Stroud play. He already looks like a guy that's been playing for 5 years. It may not be this year, but I'll be floored if he's not a consensus top 3, if not top 2 QB within the next couple of years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Houston will be what Daboll did for the Giants in his first year and exceed expectations then fall back to reality the next season. I am for sure of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 hours ago, Rich Stadium Original said: Forgive me in advance if this subject came up somewhere in the 116 pages of the Diggs is traded thread, but... Let's assume the Diggs trade had to happen now...why the Texans?...Yes his production is way down, but even at 31 he's still got a lot left in the tank...and you may have handed the team that, at least on paper, seems to now be the most talent laden in the AFC. People certainly would be up in arms if we dealt him to the Chiefs or Bengals, but the Texans may be a tougher "out" this season. My biggest complaint in this whole matter is that Beane couldn't find a trade partner in the NFC, or a team in the AFC searching for a QB and not a threat. Maybe other GMs around the league are wary now that Diggs has whined his way off of two teams, and weren't willing to give up a second round pick. I think you can assume that Houston offered the best deal. I don't know if Diggs had a trade approval clause in his contract - they're pretty rare - but if he did, that would factor in too. If you haven't, go on Youtube and listen to Greg Cosell on OBD. He is not a Bills employee, he's an analyst and senior producer at NFL Films, and widely respected around the league for his film breakdowns. TL;DL: with no reason to be civil towards a Bills player on a Bills show, Cosell amplified on things he's previously implied during the season. He made it pretty clear he thinks the Bills traded Diggs to Houston because no other team was interested or offered in the same range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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