Roundybout Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) The Bears posted this to celebrate Devin Hester and I found it very interesting that Ashton Youboty was considered by Chicago as a low floor “safe pick.” I think we ended up getting him in the 3rd. Edited March 29 by Roundybout 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 This board would explode if Beane ever had a draft like that (Whitner, McCargo, Youboty, Ko Simpson, Keith Ellison). Silver lining is we landed Kyle Williams in that draft. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 8 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: This board would explode if Beane ever had a draft like that (Whitner, McCargo, Youboty, Ko Simpson, Keith Ellison). Silver lining is we landed Kyle Williams in that draft. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t think Ko or Whitner were that bad players. Not exactly what we needed first round with Donte but hindsight is always 20/20. Keith Ellison wasn’t that bad either for a 6th rounder… Biggest miss that draft was McCargo and not Whitner for results over their tenure. One stud in Williams and three other solid players; Whitner, Simpson and Ellison isn’t that bad. Again, at least to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Whitner was 1.) overdrafted - would’ve been a good use of a second rounder, but at 8th overall, a safety needs to be a difference maker on the level of Ed Reed or Ronnie Lott, and 2.) NOT Haloti Ngata, who was right there and such an obvious pick 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) Ko Simposn had a big rookie year for us and Whitner, while a bit of a disappointment, was a day 1 starter who played for 11 seasons. Far from our worst draft. The thing that everyone always overlooks on bust drafts picks, is that in the vast majority of cases (unless you're Jacksonville, the Raiders or New England) that guy who was a massive disappointment for your team, was getting drafted in the next couple of picks if you didn't take him. The draft is just as much luck as it is skill. If we didn't draft sammy watkins #4, he was going in the next couple picks. Same for Mike Williams, Ej Manuel, JP Losman, etc. Edited March 29 by BullBuchanan 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 36 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Ko Simposn had a big rookie year for us and Whitner, while a bit of a disappointment, was a day 1 starter who played for 11 seasons. Far from our worst draft. The thing that everyone always overlooks on bust drafts picks, is that in the vast majority of cases (unless you're Jacksonville, the Raiders or New England) that guy who was a massive disappointment for your team, was getting drafted in the next couple of picks if you didn't take him. The draft is just as much luck as it is skill. If we didn't draft sammy watkins #4, he was going in the next couple picks. Same for Mike Williams, Ej Manuel, JP Losman, etc. I always thought the Bills tried to jump GB for Losman. Gunslinger QB with a huge arm and athletic? Seemed like the perfect dude to sit behind Favre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 46 minutes ago, BBFL said: Maybe it’s just me but I don’t think Ko or Whitner were that bad players. Not exactly what we needed first round with Donte but hindsight is always 20/20. Keith Ellison wasn’t that bad either for a 6th rounder… Biggest miss that draft was McCargo and not Whitner for results over their tenure. One stud in Williams and three other solid players; Whitner, Simpson and Ellison isn’t that bad. Again, at least to me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said: I always thought the Bills tried to jump GB for Losman. Gunslinger QB with a huge arm and athletic? Seemed like the perfect dude to sit behind Favre If he goes there, sits and learns like Rodgers did, and then is able to play the game his way, maybe he has a successful NFL career. Easily one of, if not the, most grossly mismanaged Bills prospects in my lifetime. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Ashton Youboty. That’s a name I have totally forgotten. He didn’t do a damn thing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Whitner wasn't the stud that you had hoped him to be, but he was a solid player. Ellison, for where he was picked was good. As for Simpson - he was worth millions ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Ko Simposn had a big rookie year for us and Whitner, while a bit of a disappointment, was a day 1 starter who played for 11 seasons. Far from our worst draft. The thing that everyone always overlooks on bust drafts picks, is that in the vast majority of cases (unless you're Jacksonville, the Raiders or New England) that guy who was a massive disappointment for your team, was getting drafted in the next couple of picks if you didn't take him. The draft is just as much luck as it is skill. If we didn't draft sammy watkins #4, he was going in the next couple picks. Same for Mike Williams, Ej Manuel, JP Losman, etc. We had the #8 pick in rounds 1 & 2, and the 5th and 8th pics in round 3. With these four premium picks we wound up with 3 players: S Whitner, DT McCargo, and DB Youboty. With 4 picks!!! In round 4, we drafted Ko Simpson. All this on a team with no quarterback and a pi$$ poor offensive line. In all sincerity, everyone is entitled to their opinion on this and all other issues. That said, I'm sorry; how you could think that this was a good, or even half decent draft for the Bills is beyond any level of comprehension of which I am capable. Peace! 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: This board would explode if Beane ever had a draft like that (Whitner, McCargo, Youboty, Ko Simpson, Keith Ellison). Silver lining is we landed Kyle Williams in that draft. Ah, yes. The Marv Levy Draft. What an eye opener that was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 This is the draft that drove me crazy back in the drought years. 2006 feels like an eternity ago, but Mercedes Lewis is actually still active. He started 225 games while our pick John McCargo started 1. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: This board would explode if Beane ever had a draft like that (Whitner, McCargo, Youboty, Ko Simpson, Keith Ellison). Silver lining is we landed Kyle Williams in that draft. Trust me, I went off big time. I said back then that it would set back the team 5 years. The truth is that I underestimated. Levy/Jauron were one of the worst combinations in NFL History. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Guy had a neck like a giraffe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 7 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: This board would explode if Beane ever had a draft like that (Whitner, McCargo, Youboty, Ko Simpson, Keith Ellison). Silver lining is we landed Kyle Williams in that draft. I think my brain went into safe mode and helped me forget how bad that draft was. Dear god, drafts like that are why a team will be in perennial suckage for years to come. 7 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Ko Simposn had a big rookie year for us and Whitner, while a bit of a disappointment, was a day 1 starter who played for 11 seasons. Far from our worst draft. The thing that everyone always overlooks on bust drafts picks, is that in the vast majority of cases (unless you're Jacksonville, the Raiders or New England) that guy who was a massive disappointment for your team, was getting drafted in the next couple of picks if you didn't take him. The draft is just as much luck as it is skill. If we didn't draft sammy watkins #4, he was going in the next couple picks. Same for Mike Williams, Ej Manuel, JP Losman, etc. The problems lies where its the same team drafting the massive disappointment year after year Edited March 30 by Herc11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) On 3/29/2024 at 1:54 PM, BBFL said: Maybe it’s just me but I don’t think Ko or Whitner were that bad players. Not exactly what we needed first round with Donte but hindsight is always 20/20. Keith Ellison wasn’t that bad either for a 6th rounder… Biggest miss that draft was McCargo and not Whitner for results over their tenure. One stud in Williams and three other solid players; Whitner, Simpson and Ellison isn’t that bad. Again, at least to me. No this was peak bills dark ages. We needed a DT and picked a 2nd round safety with the 8th pick then whiffed on a DT later in the first. I mean McCargo had beasts next to him and that is why he excelled in college. .just horrible drafting Edited March 30 by TBBills Fan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 7 hours ago, Cash said: Whitner was 1.) overdrafted - would’ve been a good use of a second rounder, but at 8th overall, a safety needs to be a difference maker on the level of Ed Reed or Ronnie Lott, and 2.) NOT Haloti Ngata, who was right there and such an obvious pick Lolz. I remember that draft well. I was outside cutting the grass, when my son comes outside to tell me the Bills picked Whitner. My reaction: "Who?" I had never heard of Donte Whitner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 7 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: This board would explode if Beane ever had a draft like that (Whitner, McCargo, Youboty, Ko Simpson, Keith Ellison). Silver lining is we landed Kyle Williams in that draft. Why? The Bills have had MUCH, MUCH worse drafts than that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 8 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: This board would explode if Beane ever had a draft like that (Whitner, McCargo, Youboty, Ko Simpson, Keith Ellison). Silver lining is we landed Kyle Williams in that draft. Who GM’ed this draft again? Absolutely horrid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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