No_Matter_What Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Einstein said: This whole thread could be submitted to Cold Takes Exposed. @Beck Water and @H2o with early nominees. That reporter nailed everything. From the team, to the literal pick we landed. Hmm but it is not the literal pick we landed, is it? I thought we got 2nd rounder in 2025 unfortunately. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Einstein said: This whole thread could be submitted to Cold Takes Exposed. @Beck Water and @H2o with early nominees. That reporter nailed everything. From the team, to the literal pick we landed. I admit I was surprised by the trade. I stand by my take that @JohnCMark_ is a troll account and not, in fact, a beat reporter for the Miami Dolphins. If you want to "expose" that, provide evidence to the contrary. He was right that we traded Diggs, and right about Houston interest (busted clock, right 2x day), but unfortunately quite wrong about the compensation. I'm sure the Bills were interested in the Texans 2nd round pick, but according to Schefter that is not at all what they got - https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39866413/sources-bills-finalizing-trade-star-wr-stefon-diggs-texans They got a #2 pick from 2025, which is likely to be lower IMHO. It doesn't bother me to be wrong, or to own it when I am, but I don't think this is quite the "flex" you appear to believe it to be. "Who is this clown" by H2o still appears to hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I admit I was surprised by the trade. I stand by my take that @JohnCMark_ is a troll account If it’s a troll account, then it’s one of the best guesses i’ve ever seen. Not just the team Diggs went to but ALSO the compensation. The odds of that guess are infinitesimal. 13 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Um, that was a lot less cryptic than many of his other messages. It reads more like "you're about to do that experiment" vs. his earlier stuff. only because you know the result. many of his cryptic comments were similar in severity, but many posters excused those comments away for various reasons. We even had posters trying to excuse away his comment from yesterday that you’re talking about. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 28 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I admit I was surprised by the trade. I stand by my take that @JohnCMark_ is a troll account and not, in fact, a beat reporter for the Miami Dolphins. If you want to "expose" that, provide evidence to the contrary. He was right that we traded Diggs, and right about Houston interest (busted clock, right 2x day), but unfortunately quite wrong about the compensation. I'm sure the Bills were interested in the Texans 2nd round pick, but according to Schefter that is not at all what they got - https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39866413/sources-bills-finalizing-trade-star-wr-stefon-diggs-texans They got a #2 pick from 2025, which is likely to be lower IMHO. It doesn't bother me to be wrong, or to own it when I am, but I don't think this is quite the "flex" you appear to believe it to be. "Who is this clown" by H2o still appears to hold. Dying on the hill of “the comp wasn’t what we predicted” after 50 pages of your previous posts that are there for the world to read is quite sad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: Um, that was a lot less cryptic than many of his other messages. It reads more like "you're about to do that experiment" vs. his earlier stuff. In retrospect, sure. It was cryptic right up until the trade was announced. That’s sort of the definition of the term. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I will not individually embarrass them, but several of the posts of the Diggs' sycophants who steadfastly defended his "cryptic" social media posts and actions certainly did not age well. How toxic must a player be for a team to trade him for a future second round pick and take such a cap hit. Some of us tried to warn people. Oh well, we move on . . . . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 (edited) 4 hours ago, Einstein said: If it’s a troll account, then it’s one of the best guesses i’ve ever seen. Not just the team Diggs went to but ALSO the compensation. The odds of that guess are infinitesimal. Just had time to sit down and calculate this. So there are obviously 31 other NFL teams to which Diggs could potentially be traded. And each team has more or less a draft pick for each round, so lets assume 7 draft picks each. That's a total of 217 draft picks (31 teams * 7 picks each). 1/31 * 1/217 (due to not knowing which teams draft pick) = 0.00014865467 So that tweeter correctly guessing the right team and right round of the draft pick has a probability of 0.0149%. Or if we assume they guess the right team first and then just have to guess the draft pick we have 1/31 * 1/7 = 0.00460829493 or 0.461%. Edited April 3 by Einstein 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 8 hours ago, Einstein said: Diggs must have forgotten the last half of last season, where Allen played without a #1 WR because Diggs was stinking up the joint. Shakir destroyed Diggs in that time span To be fair, Diggs def saw more attention from defenses but nonetheless, Shakir looked like WR1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 8 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: When you're coming out with bangers like "Revolutionize the Kicking Game" - I can see why you'd want to try to get people to laugh at others. This is why you shouldn’t take the board so seriously. If you can’t laugh at yourself for arguing adamantly for months about this for it to all come crashing down, what can I tell ya? 8 hours ago, GoBills808 said: plz read this thread lmfao Top 10 thread in TBD history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gugny Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 8 hours ago, Beck Water said: It doesn't bother me to be wrong, or to own it when I am … As a non-Mod, perhaps. 😁 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 9 minutes ago, FireChans said: This is why you shouldn’t take the board so seriously. If you can’t laugh at yourself for arguing adamantly for months about this for it to all come crashing down, what can I tell ya? Top 10 thread in TBD history Oh trust me, I know i'm eating crow today. I've mentioned it a couple times already in other threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 16 minutes ago, Gugny said: As a non-Mod, perhaps. 😁 I Said What I Said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, FireChans said: This is why you shouldn’t take the board so seriously. If you can’t laugh at yourself for arguing adamantly for months about this for it to all come crashing down, what can I tell ya? Top 10 thread in TBD history Remember when Diggs himself said "where there's smoke there's fire" in response to a question about trade rumors, and half the people in this thread said that that was nothing to worry about? Just the media inventing a controversy, apparently. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Remember when Diggs himself said "where there's smoke there's fire" in response to a question about trade rumors, and half the people in this thread said that that was nothing to worry about? Just the media inventing a controversy, apparently. people only saw what they wanted to see: half of it. Diggs is a two face and was playing on both sides of the fence. One moment acting like he wanted to retire a Bill, then another saying stuff like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, HappyDays said: Remember when Diggs himself said "where there's smoke there's fire" in response to a question about trade rumors, and half the people in this thread said that that was nothing to worry about? Just the media inventing a controversy, apparently. Diggs could have started tweeting Zodiac Killer symbols and I have no doubt there would be homers in this thread saying "Well, that's really not that cryptic..." They wanted to get rid of him so bad they ate $31M and traded him in-conference to a playoff team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 hours ago, Einstein said: Just had time to sit down and calculate this. So there are obviously 31 other NFL teams to which Diggs could potentially be traded. And each team has more or less a draft pick for each round, so lets assume 7 draft picks each. That's a total of 217 draft picks (31 teams * 7 picks each). 1/31 * 1/217 (due to not knowing which teams draft pick) = 0.00014865467 So that tweeter correctly guessing the right team and right round of the draft pick has a probability of 0.0149%. Or if we assume they guess the right team first and then just have to guess the draft pick we have 1/31 * 1/7 = 0.00460829493 or 0.461%. If you know the team that Diggs is going to, you have way better odds of guessing the pick than 1/31 * 1/7. If you assume the pick is in either this or next year’s draft, then however many picks that team has in either draft (let’s say X), then without even knowing how to value NFL players, you have a 1/X chance. And if you have any sense of a player’s value, then you can likely cross off many picks as being an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 2/20/2024 at 4:39 PM, Gunsgoodtime said: Diggs playoff performances has been replacement level. I can't wait for the 2025 version of "Stephon Diggs Crytpic tweets, another teams problems" Looks like I got my wish early 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) On 2/5/2024 at 7:47 PM, FireChans said: That's true. Here's what Diggs said about his future with the Bills in 2022. "I felt like my next spot was my last spot," Diggs said to the media after signing his extension. "I wanted it to be my home, and I didn't want to ever go anywhere. It was important to me especially in my first year and second year, you just kind of felt like you were building family." Here's what Diggs said about his future with the Bills in 2024. " I don't know, I feel like, as far as all of that with the money and all that type of stuff, I can't control none of that. I kind of put my hat on. It's a long offseason, and as far as what the future holds, I don't have any surprises for you right now." Do these comments seem different to you? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? BONUS INFO: Here's Diggs in Minnesota: "But things soured between Diggs and Minnesota in the two years following, despite the receiver enjoying career-high production. Diggs was fined in October for missing Vikings meetings and practices, which preceded and inspired trade rumors that subsided but never really went away." Wow, Diggs skipping meetings and missing practices? That seems......kind of familiar. Diggs negative comments in Minnesota circa 2019: "I can't sit up here and say everything is okay, it's obviously not. What I can say at this point is just try to work through it." Of course, Minnesota fans were twisting themselves into KNOTS that all was well with Diggs at that time. He's just a fiery guy! And then, of course, Diggs backtracked: #Vikings WR Stefon Diggs on his comments last week: "I never said I was unhappy or uncomfortable with my role. I said I wanted to win, that was what my frustrations were and that's where it kind of got misconstrued last week.'' Well, at least we know he later cleared the air and definitely wasn't traded in the offseason...... Here's the story of Diggs in TC this season: “Diggs’ frustration is with his role in the offense and his voice in play-calling, per a league source close to the Bills’ locker room,” Volin wrote. “He was visibly agitated at Allen during the 27-10 playoff loss to the Bengals, stormed out of the locker room almost immediately after the game, and didn’t attend any voluntary workouts this offseason.” Hmmmmm, kind of sounds familiar as well. On 2/5/2024 at 8:05 PM, FireChans said: I wasn't drawing a parallel between those two quotes. I was demonstrating what happened in Minnesota that Bills fans' have somehow memory-holed like Diggs didn't have his own media circus ending with his departure. On 2/5/2024 at 9:28 PM, FireChans said: So I guess I'm misunderstanding. You don't think these comments out of Diggs are intentionally controversial, because you don't think they are controversial at all? I guess the media disagrees because they all keep writing about it. I don't know the Diggs camp intimately. Like you said, he has history but you're misremembering. Diggs did NOT make enigmatic comments between 2020 and 2022. There's nothing there. Something changed in 2022. And there's his entire enigmatic press clippings prior to 2020 from his former team, where he eventually ended up traded, which he later admitted he wanted. "The circumstances of Diggs' departure from the Vikings have been covered before. He wasn't happy with an increasingly run-focused offense. Relationships became frayed. Eventually, his actions (missing practice) and words (social media musings) gave way to the trade." https://www.startribune.com/stefon-diggs-cover-story-sheds-light-on-vikings-departure/600002569/ So what we have here is a WR with a history of toeing the line of less than perfect behavior on social media and media in general to get moved from a place where he's unhappy. Which is why ALL of the stuff over the last two years has BEEN a story. I don't know if Diggs wants out or not. I do know he has ran a similar playbook to get out of Minnesota. I do know this song and dance with the media has gotten extremely old. That's my take. On 2/8/2024 at 6:44 PM, FireChans said: I find the commitment to defending the honor of a player who has made a career of being, at the very least, annoying in his sound bites quite bizarre. 16 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Remember when Diggs himself said "where there's smoke there's fire" in response to a question about trade rumors, and half the people in this thread said that that was nothing to worry about? Just the media inventing a controversy, apparently. Shout out to this dude above who called it 2 months ago. an absolute tour du force of TBDing. This was my 13 seconds game as the QB, and it was some other posters who forgot to call a squib kick. Edited April 4 by FireChans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 14 minutes ago, QCity said: Diggs could have started tweeting Zodiac Killer symbols and I have no doubt there would be homers in this thread saying "Well, that's really not that cryptic..." They wanted to get rid of him so bad they ate $31M and traded him in-conference to a playoff team. One we are playing this season no less lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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