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Serious question - did you really think THIS was the team that would win a championship?


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9 hours ago, Steptide said:

I'm just as mad/dissapointed that we lost last night as any other bills fan today. Last week I heard alot on local sports talk radio about how this was our year and how if we just beat kc, it's gotta be our year finally. OK, based on what?! 

 

The last 8 games have been fun. Nobody thought this team would win the division, let alone be the 2 seed and host 2 home playoff games. Having said that, our offense needs serious help. Allen is an absolute animal, but he can't do absolutely everything. I've seen Diggs take alot of flack today on social media and it's well deserved. He's been non existentent the last 8 or so games. Harty and sherfield were complete non factors the entire season. Gabe played nowhere near what we (and the team) expected. Knox was hurt and even when he wasn't, he wasn't exactly a game changer. Kinkaid and Shakir were the lone bright spots, and Shakir really didn't show up until after Dorsey was gone. Cook was great, but we need more. The defense came through, even as beat up as they've been, but in today's nfl you cannot rely solely on the defense. WGR brought up a great point this morning, saying how kc has won superbowls when their defense was ranked in the mid 20's. We need more offense. 

 

I could go on and on, but Imo this wasn't the team that was gonna win it all. I was worried about last night's game, and even had they pulled it out, I'd never believe they could get through Baltimore. Houston has a similar offense to Buffalo and they couldn't muster more than 3 points on offense against Baltimore. Ya I know they have a rookie qb, but stroud is a beast. It'll be super interesting to see what kc does against Baltimore next week. I think Baltimore beats kc by 10 🤷 thanks for letting me vent 


No I agree. They would’ve been waxed by Baltimore either way.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:

Yes. They could have. If they won last night, they absolutely could have beaten the Ravens or either one of the NFC teams. Forget about the execution part of it and just look at talent alone. I believe we were better than the Chiefs but we didn't play like it last night. Execution can be corrected, talent can't. Let me ask you, have you looked at the Chiefs at any point this season and said "that's a team that can win a title right there"? A team that has looked dreadful and had a hard time scoring and had a bad loss to the Raiders on Christmas Day where they got man handled. Guess what...they're right back to being one game away from the Super Bowl again. I never thought ince this season that the Chiefs were a better team than us. They are beatable and had we executed like we should have, would have beaten them like we should have. 


Yes KC is very vulnerable this season. The fact that they advanced and Bills didn’t should tell you something. 

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4 hours ago, 90sBills said:


Yes KC is very vulnerable this season. The fact that they advanced and Bills didn’t should tell you something. 

The point is that the Bills COULD HAVE advanced. Just like the Chiefs did and can beat the Ravens just like the Chiefs can. If the Chiefs come out and play like crap this week, does that mean that they can't beat them if they execute or don't execute? Every team has mishaps. Even the best teams I have seen. The Chiefs are very vulnerable but can be beaten. We absolutely could have beaten every team left. It's about being better that day. Unfortunately, we weren't when it counted. It doesn't mean we couldn't have been. Have you ever looked at a 5th or 6th seed and thought "they can win a championship"? The Steelers did it in 05, the Giants did it in 07. The 2000 Ravens had absolutely no offense to speak of and won a title. We have the team that can win it all. We just have to be on top of our game in the crucial moments. We just didn't this week. 

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Depended on day of season- at begining I did, after London we couldn't, when we destroyed Cowboys I was back on the bandwagon, when the TB and Benford went down I knew it was over, KC would punish us there and they did. 

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I don't think they would have beaten the Ravens if they got by KC. Baltimore has been the best team in the AFC and maybe the league. I think they will beat the Chiefs this Sunday. No matter what I am rooting for the NFC in the Super Bowl. I don't want Mahomes getting a 3rd ring and I don't want LJ getting one either. Then all of the media "experts" will be saying Jackson is a much better QB than Allen if the Ravens do win it all.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:

The point is that the Bills COULD HAVE advanced. Just like the Chiefs did and can beat the Ravens just like the Chiefs can. If the Chiefs come out and play like crap this week, does that mean that they can't beat them if they execute or don't execute? Every team has mishaps. Even the best teams I have seen. The Chiefs are very vulnerable but can be beaten. We absolutely could have beaten every team left. It's about being better that day. Unfortunately, we weren't when it counted. It doesn't mean we couldn't have been. Have you ever looked at a 5th or 6th seed and thought "they can win a championship"? The Steelers did it in 05, the Giants did it in 07. The 2000 Ravens had absolutely no offense to speak of and won a title. We have the team that can win it all. We just have to be on top of our game in the crucial moments. We just didn't this week. 

Exactly.  We dont know if the Bills would win against the Ravens, but  their chances would be better...if they play that game, it's the least i can say. 

 

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1 hour ago, Gugny said:

Sitting at 7-6, I thought that if the Bills made the playoffs, then they would get to the Super Bowl. 
 

I still think they should have. 

At that point I thought the Billsiest thing possible would be to go on a run, make the playoffs and then fall short. As we got to the end of the season I thought we’d win the WC game, beat the Chefs and make it to the AFCCG, but lose there. IMO at this time the Ravens are the best team in the league by a fairly wide margin.

 

But a little voice of hope told me that if we got past the Ravens (or they got upset first) and we got to the SB, then we might match up very well against the 49ers. Same Shanahan scheme (basically) as the Dolphins run and we don’t run a Fangio defense which that scheme murders. We run a defense that fares well against it. So if we could get there I had real hope of winning a championship. 

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25 minutes ago, BillsMontreal said:

Exactly.  We dont know if the Bills would win against the Ravens, but  their chances would be better...if they play that game, it's the least i can say. 

 

Right. I'm not saying we would have, but we definitely could have. We probably would have only been 3 point underdogs in that game. Apparently the OP of this thread thinks we would be 10 or 15 point underdogs lol. We are a very hard team to beat. We beat ourselves most weeks. Probably more than most teams. And if we played to our potential every week and cleaned that up, we would literally only lose maybe 2 or 3 games a season. We should have been 14-3 this season if we didn't blow the Jets, Patriots and Broncos games

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They never looked like a championship team this season. Maybe that's why I wasn't truly devastated on Sunday night like the previous two seasons.

 

AFC East championship, sure. But considering the competition that's the equivalent of a Little League trophy at this point.

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Serious answer: A team with Allen at QB has a puncher's chance. He presents too many problems for any team to completely shut down. They've been in every game for a couple years now. They nearly took out KC even with an all-time bad defensive performance.

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During the offseason, I thought this was the best roster Beane had put together yet.

 

The Jets game put me in confused WTF mode.  

 

Then I regained my optimism when we reeled off three consecutive 28+ point victories.  

 

And then I was confused again when we went into a funk.  And dismayed as we started losing key players.  

 

Even when we rebounded and won the AFCE, I didn't expect a Super Bowl run.  The limitations of the roster had been exposed and, more importantly, the defensive injuries were just too substantial. 

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One silver lining from this year is that we'll have Milano and Bernard out there at the same time, with Williams as the athletic hard hitting backup. Even Spector did a decent job as a backup/depth player. It's almost like we have 2 Matt Milanos now. 

 

Obviously we had 0 Milanos this weekend, but going forward that's 2 stud LBers who make plays all over the place. 

 

The biggest disappointment, aside from Oliver, is at DL. So much investment for so little return when it matters most. Just no impact at all, and no ability to stop the run. And it's a pattern, not just a one off game. 

 

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17 hours ago, Steptide said:

I'm just as mad/dissapointed that we lost last night as any other bills fan today. Last week I heard alot on local sports talk radio about how this was our year and how if we just beat kc, it's gotta be our year finally. OK, based on what?! 

 

The last 8 games have been fun. Nobody thought this team would win the division, let alone be the 2 seed and host 2 home playoff games. Having said that, our offense needs serious help. Allen is an absolute animal, but he can't do absolutely everything. I've seen Diggs take alot of flack today on social media and it's well deserved. He's been non existentent the last 8 or so games. Harty and sherfield were complete non factors the entire season. Gabe played nowhere near what we (and the team) expected. Knox was hurt and even when he wasn't, he wasn't exactly a game changer. Kinkaid and Shakir were the lone bright spots, and Shakir really didn't show up until after Dorsey was gone. Cook was great, but we need more. The defense came through, even as beat up as they've been, but in today's nfl you cannot rely solely on the defense. WGR brought up a great point this morning, saying how kc has won superbowls when their defense was ranked in the mid 20's. We need more offense. 

 

I could go on and on, but Imo this wasn't the team that was gonna win it all. I was worried about last night's game, and even had they pulled it out, I'd never believe they could get through Baltimore. Houston has a similar offense to Buffalo and they couldn't muster more than 3 points on offense against Baltimore. Ya I know they have a rookie qb, but stroud is a beast. It'll be super interesting to see what kc does against Baltimore next week. I think Baltimore beats kc by 10 🤷 thanks for letting me vent 

All this Baltimore will beat KC by ten stuff. Chefs showed how good they are and that's what's depressing. Actually I thought or hoped we would get the the big one and win it this year, through the adversity

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Just now, london_bills said:

All this Baltimore will beat KC by ten stuff. Chefs showed how good they are and that's what's depressing. Actually I thought or hoped we would get the the big one and win it this year, through the adversity

 

That's the thing... KC will 100% load up on offense this offseason. This was their "down year." 

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17 hours ago, Steptide said:

I'm just as mad/dissapointed that we lost last night as any other bills fan today. Last week I heard alot on local sports talk radio about how this was our year and how if we just beat kc, it's gotta be our year finally. OK, based on what?! 

 

The last 8 games have been fun. Nobody thought this team would win the division, let alone be the 2 seed and host 2 home playoff games. Having said that, our offense needs serious help. Allen is an absolute animal, but he can't do absolutely everything. I've seen Diggs take alot of flack today on social media and it's well deserved. He's been non existentent the last 8 or so games. Harty and sherfield were complete non factors the entire season. Gabe played nowhere near what we (and the team) expected. Knox was hurt and even when he wasn't, he wasn't exactly a game changer. Kinkaid and Shakir were the lone bright spots, and Shakir really didn't show up until after Dorsey was gone. Cook was great, but we need more. The defense came through, even as beat up as they've been, but in today's nfl you cannot rely solely on the defense. WGR brought up a great point this morning, saying how kc has won superbowls when their defense was ranked in the mid 20's. We need more offense. 

 

I could go on and on, but Imo this wasn't the team that was gonna win it all. I was worried about last night's game, and even had they pulled it out, I'd never believe they could get through Baltimore. Houston has a similar offense to Buffalo and they couldn't muster more than 3 points on offense against Baltimore. Ya I know they have a rookie qb, but stroud is a beast. It'll be super interesting to see what kc does against Baltimore next week. I think Baltimore beats kc by 10 🤷 thanks for letting me vent 

 

Talent-wise... Sure... They can beat anyone on their good days... Anyone...

 

Coaching-wise... No... No chance...

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No. They didn’t have the talent on the offensive side of the ball and had too many injuries on d. Nice to see they fought like hell though. 2021 was their opportunity and they blew it. 2022 was a good shot but coaches had horrible gameplans.

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