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7 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Fields is Tyrod Taylor? Fields is a blue chip prospect on a terrible team. I don't know if he would be much of an improvement over Tua but I think he could do what Tua does, 1 read throws. Tua led the NFL in passing this season so that's saying something, plus Fields would add the extra dimension of being able to run if the play is not there. Everyone knows if you get Tua off his first read he has absolutely no solution. It's not as crazy as it sounds if they decide to go in another direction rather than make Tua the highest paid player in NFL history!

 

Yeah, I'd definitely prefer the Fins keeping Tua than somehow trading for Fields.

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8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Yea but fields is TT on steroids

 

He's bigger faster and stronger... And has a bigger arm...

 

It's like the Justin Herbert to Josh Allen comparison... Sure they might be physically the same stature on the field or close to it

 

But one place like he's Superman and one plays like he's not...

 

I don't think Fields is amazing... But he's definitely got more talent than tyrod Taylor.. who is a good journeyman

Tyrod in his prime may have been faster

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I hope Tua holds out this offseason for a contract. 

 

How come everyone else has a new deal but he is expected/ok with playing for relative peanuts? 

 

Time to PAY THE MAN who led the Dolphins to the playoffs 2 years in a row, QB'ed the league's top offense, and was in the running for M V P!!

 

I say give him Burrow's deal, plus 10%

 

I can't wait until the Dolphins have to pay the piper. Having a QB on a rookie deal and surrounding him with a Pro Bowl roster only lasts so long, and if it didn't work by now what is it going to look like when they have to let guys go to get under the cap?

 

Hill is getting older and is beat up near the end of every season. They will need to pay Waddle too. 

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4 minutes ago, Irv said:

Urgent Care of South Florida overwhelmed with broken ankle injuries from all the band wagon jumpers.   

 

Judging by the crowd, I'd guess a lot of them jumped off last week.

 

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Fields could be amazing with this current Dolphins team.  Compared to Tua, he has a better arm, ability to run, ability to bye time, and better ability to throw on the run. Tua's thing is that he hits on those 2.2s throws that go 15 yards down the hash marks to Hill.  But that seems like an overall play design thing, not skillset that is specific to Tua.  Tua has also been very accurate on the deep throws to a wide open Hill.  Apparently, that's a skillset that not every QB has.  eh-hmmm.

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Ending up in a WC game…in 0° weather on Pea****…pretty much sums up the last month.

 

God wanted the weather to be similar to the percentage chance of us winning... How cute.

 

What is worse that it will be zero degrees or that the game is on Pea****.

 

A couple of frozen Samoan picks ought to wrap it up

 

One team on life support and they win the division and one team starts like a rocket then fizzles to the 6th seed

 

leave him alone. tuanons are gonna tuanons. they treat him like he's their child

 

My neighbor is a Bills fan is in the fcking street with goddamn fireworks. I’m going to jail tonight. Going to beat the fat off his face!!!

 

Jesus christ, if you lived closer i would help but since you don't please film it for me...

 

These guys are hilarious.

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8 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Fields has had one of the worst supporting players can have. About as bad as 2018 Bills oline nad WR group. He needs a new team.

DJ Moore, Darnell Mooney and Cole Cmet are a bad group of pass catchers?

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39 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Tua is a fantastic QB for McDaniels' system, which is to make one read and throw the ball very quickly. He's also decent to great at presnap reads.

 

But he's a horrific improviser and can't go through progressions at an elite level. Once you take away the designed first option his efficiency plummets. 

I really don’t even think he’s a good qb for the mcdaniel/shanahan system either.  Tua is holding the system back imo.  Bills blitzed one time and gave tua plenty of time and he looked even more uncomfortable than usual which just can’t happen at an nfl level. Purdy runs it much better…he will at least hold the ball and attempt to make all the throws/give wrs a chance to adjust their routes.  McDaniel seems like he has training wheels on the Shanahan system to baby tua along

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8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

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Yes . The bears literally haven't developed a quarterback since ^ world war II

 

Any quarterback going there , is basically the end of your career historically

 

Fixed that for you.  😁

 

8 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

Coming into the game, Miami was 11-0 when leading at halftime, the only team in the NFL that could boast an undefeated record in that circumstance. Feels good to end that for them. Their fans must be livid their vaunted offense did nothing the entire 2nd half.

 

I think that until the late third quarter -- or maybe even early in the fourth quarter -- the Fins only managed 1 first down in the second half.

 

3 hours ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said:

It's not fun to lose the AFC East on the final week. 

 

Especially when your team has been the division leader since September and was 3 games ahead of the Bills with 5 games left in the regular season.

 

1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

A team built 100% on speed is doomed to fail.

 

 

Itll look great on paper and in September and October, but the NFL season is a war of attrition.  Eventually, speed gets slowed down.  

 

Totally agree.   Winning in the playoffs usually depends upon a stout defense and a decent running game when all the opponents are good and playing conditions are frequently poor.

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42 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Tua is a fantastic QB for McDaniels' system, which is to make one read and throw the ball very quickly. He's also decent to great at presnap reads.

 

But he's a horrific improviser and can't go through progressions at an elite level. Once you take away the designed first option his efficiency plummets. 

It truly is amazing how little production that offense gets once the initial play breaks down. We are spoiled watching Allen regularly rescuing plays he has no business rescuing.

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3 hours ago, Blackbeard said:

I give you this thread on Allen. 
 

https://finheaven.com/threads/allen-vs-tua.382031/

 

We have the best offensive weapon in the league in Josh.  
 

But WE all knew that.. 

 

"Unfortunately, he only gets to play us twice a year. Vs the rest of the league, he was not good this year. Outside of 1 really exciting playoff game in which he lost wtf has Allen done?"

to which a saner head responds:

"I don't know he couldnt have been that bad. He had 30 TD's and 15 rushing TD's and over 4500 yards. When game is on the line he responds"

 

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1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

A team built 100% on speed is doomed to fail.

 

 

Itll look great on paper and in September and October, but the NFL season is a war of attrition.  Eventually, speed gets slowed down.  

 

You saw it last night...

 

Hill's ankle is busted up and Waddle couldn't even play. With Waddle out Miami is a dangerous offense, but not impossible to defend or anything. With Waddle out and Hill not 100% they are just another team.

 

When Tua takes the snap and throws within 2 seconds down the seam it doesn't work without both of them in there near full strength. 

 

With both 100% and on a nice warm, clean field with a healthy supporting cast and little to no film on their offense they are close to impossible to stop, but that doesn't last long. 

 

Take snap, close eyes, throw to predetermined spot to a track star who is wide open by 5 yards and then does a RAC for an extra 10-30 yards. run a few plays then float a moonball to a wide open WR who has his defender beat by 10 yards. That all depends on speed being there in multiple places. 

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