NFL will look at the fumble-out-of-end-zone rule

[Rubes]

NFL will look at the fumble-out-of-end-zone rule

 

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It's the worst rule in football. And perhaps it will be changing.

 

NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent told reporters on Wednesday that the league will look at the current rules regarding fumbles out of the end zone.

It unreasonably punishes the offense. It unfairly rewards the defense. It happens when a player loses control and the ball goes out of bounds after entering the end zone. If the ball trickles out of bounds just before the goal line, the offense keeps possession at the spot of the fumble. If the ball nicks the pylon, it's a touchback, with the defense getting the ball at the 20.

 

 

Good riddance, hope they come to their senses.
 

[BuffBillsForLife]

What would they change it to?  Offense gets the ball at the 1?  It can't be a TD.

[Not Applicable]

It's far from the worst rule in football. Totally fine the way it is, but I'm sure the NFL will find a way to change the game in yet another way to benefit the offense. 

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

What would they change it to?  Offense gets the ball at the 1?  It can't be a TD.

I would say 20 would make the most sense.

[BananaB]

I think the rule is as perfect as it can get.

[Realist]

I would say, play it like an incomplete pass. Ball goes out of the end zone, go back to the original line of scrimmage and next down.

[frostbitmic]

If you fumble the ball out of the end zone call it a Safety ... 2 points and the ball for the non fumbling team following the "punt" from the 20.

[NewEra]

Giving the opposing team the possession of the ball for potentially doing nothing is perfect?  🤷🏻‍♂️ 

 

I’d give the ball to the offense somewhere between the 10 and the 20.  The defense shouldn’t get the ball unless they recover it imo. 

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

If you fumble the ball out of the end zone call it a Safety ... 2 points and the ball for the non fumbling team following the "punt" from the 20.

So you think a defensive team that just stands there and watches a player fumble the ball out of the end zone they’re defending should get 2 points and the ball?  🤦🏻‍♂️ 

Edited December 14, 2023 by NewEra

[frostbitmic]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

So you think a defensive team that just stands there and watches a player fumble the ball out of the end zone they’re defending should get 2 points and the ball?  🤦🏻‍♂️ 

Yes ... If you fumble the ball out of your own end zone you deserve to have your opponent get 2 points and the ball. (which is what I thought we were talking about)

 

If you fumble the ball out of the end zone you're trying to score in you should just lose the ball, opponent gets it at the 20.

[BuffaloBillyG]

Each team gets to choose 1 player from the opposing team (excluding Starting QB( to the 50 yard line. They will then take turns kicking each other in the groin until one guy concedes possession or passes out...

 

 

ROSHAMBO!!!

[GunnerBill]

16 minutes ago, Realist said:

I would say, play it like an incomplete pass. Ball goes out of the end zone, go back to the original line of scrimmage and next down.

 

This is the best solution IMO. 

[GoBills808]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

This is the best solution IMO. 

Imo the yards gained need to be accounted for 

 

Maybe half the distance forward 

[NewEra]

12 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Yes ... If you fumble the ball out of your own end zone you deserve to have your opponent get 2 points and the ball. (which is what I thought we were talking about)

 

If you fumble the ball out of the end zone you're trying to score in you should just lose the ball, opponent gets it at the 20.

This is about the ball going oob in the end zone the offense is trying to score on.  
 

Regarding the bolded-  how you stated it is how it currently stands.  The nfl is talking about changing it because it unfairly rewards the defense/very harsh punishment for the offense

28 minutes ago, Realist said:

I would say, play it like an incomplete pass. Ball goes out of the end zone, go back to the original line of scrimmage and next down.

This makes sense for sure

4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Imo the yards gained need to be accounted for 

 

Maybe half the distance forward 

I could see losing the yards gained as a decent punishment for losing the ball in a key area.  
 

As long as the offense keeps the ball, I’m ok with most scenarios.  Giving the defense the ball is just insane to me

[stevestojan]

My wife decided to really learn football this year. She’s a Notre Dame alum so she watches the Irish and Bills but just knew TDs were good.
 

She now knows the difference between a free safety and a strong safety; can call intentional grounding a mile away, and knows was a 12 formation is.
 

We were watching an NFC game as those are the ones I can pause and show her things she has questions on. During one of them she said “wait; how is that not a catch?”  I told her I’ve been watching football closely for 43 years (yes, I started watching in the delivery room), and that is a question I simply can’t answer. 
 

So, while the fumble through the EZ is a bad rule, the definition of a catch is far far worse. 

 

[Process]

18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

This is the best solution IMO. 

Why not just place the ball at the spot of the fumble?

 

So if a team is at the 50, completes a bomb and guy fumbled at the 1, ball goes all the way back to the 50?

 

Either way, both solutions are better than the current rule which makes zero sense. 

[17islongenough]

Put the ball back to the line of scrimmage 

[billsfan89]

The offense gets so many beneficial rules, I say let the defense keep this one.

[Process]

I really don't understand the need to do anything special (move it to the 20, back to the line of scrimmage etc). 

 

What am I missing when it comes to just putting it at the spot of the fumble?

[AuntieEm]

1 hour ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

What would they change it to?  Offense gets the ball at the 1?  It can't be a TD.

 Think it's the rewarding defense if the ball touches pylon.  In my view once the plain is breached its a td   can throw the ball to ground in celebration.