Freddie's Dead Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Bills down 11-7, defense flagging, just completed a huge play to Diggs, then Dorsey dials up three downs of nothing. 4th and 10 on the Jagoffs 42, why not let Bass kick the 60-yard FG? He's got the leg, go for the points. His 50 yarders the last couple weeks hit the net more than halfway up! I don't know what the EV is there, but I need McD to be aggressive, not punt for field position. Don't be so afraid of giving the Jagoffs the ball at midfield. Yes, I know it didn't make a difference in the end, but if we had the FG, the 2pt conversion would have been for the tie. I thought this was a point in the game where we needed a lift, no matter how small. In Bass We Trust, I thought it was the perfect time to let him try it. Edited October 9, 2023 by Freddie's Dead 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said: Bills down 11-7, defense flagging, just completed a huge play to Diggs, then Dorsey dials up three downs of nothing. 4th and 10 on the Jagoffs 42, why not let Bass kick the 60-yard FG? He's got the leg, go for the points. His 50 yarders the last couple weeks hit the net more than halfway up! I don't know what the EV is there, but I need McD to be aggressive, not punt for field position. Don't be so afraid of giving the Jagoffs the ball at midfield. Yes, I know it didn't make a difference in the end, but if we had the FG, the 2pt conversion would have been for the tie. I thought this was a point in the game where we needed a lift, no matter how small. In Bass we trust, I thought it was the perfect time to let him try it. The Mike Tomlin effect is rubbing off on him. You know they were college teammates? And Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Bubba Gump said: The Mike Tomlin effect is rubbing off on him. You know they were college teammates? And Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. and Nick O’Leary, great-great-great-grandson of the lady who owned the cow that started the Great Chicago Fire, always wears his wedding band. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RiotAct said: and Nick O’Leary, great-great-great-grandson of the lady who owned the cow that started the Great Chicago Fire, always wears his wedding band. But never wore gloves, 🤣 Edited October 8, 2023 by Bubba Gump 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Bills down 11-7, defense flagging, just completed a huge play to Diggs, then Dorsey dials up three downs of nothing. 4th and 10 on the Jagoffs 42, why not let Bass kick the 60-yard FG? He's got the leg, go for the points. His 50 yarders the last couple weeks hit the net more than halfway up! I don't know what the EV is there, but I need McD to be aggressive, not punt for field position. Don't be so afraid of giving the Jagoffs the ball at midfield. Yes, I know it didn't make a difference in the end, but if we had the FG, the 2pt conversion would have been for the tie. I thought this was a point in the game where we needed a lift, no matter how small. In Bass We Trust, I thought it was the perfect time to let him try it. Davis needed to catch the ball instead of dropping it that would have been a first down. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Davis needed to catch the ball instead of dropping it that would have been a first down. Didn't realize it was that series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 And have Bass tear his ACL? 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Doc said: And have Bass tear his ACL? Good point 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, RiotAct said: and Nick O’Leary, great-great-great-grandson of the lady who owned the cow that started the Great Chicago Fire, always wears his wedding band. you can see the ring because he doesn’t wear gloves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Bass is a weapon that must be preserved come January. We all want to see that leg kicking the ball through the uprights in sunny Florida or a cool crisp low wind night in Kansas City. The 2023 Bills are the 2010 Packers. Get ready for some road playoff games. Edited October 8, 2023 by Dr.Sack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 McD played scared the entire game He punted on 4th and 2 from our 43 down 11-0 As you mentioned he chose to punt rather than go for a 59 yard FG It would be one thing if the defense was playing lights out, but we were getting gashed all game long. He also wasted multiple timeouts on defense 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 He is getting pretty far up there in age as far kicking goes. I'm pretty sure he can't make a 60 yarder. There is a reason he is the coach instead 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 McD coached like he was jet lagged. Conservative, low energy left and right. did nothing to inject a sense of urgency into the team 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 McDermott must have been jet lagged 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Bubba Gump said: The Mike Tomlin effect is rubbing off on him. You know they were college teammates? And Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. Was it Mary and William? I forget… 2 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said: McD coached like he was jet lagged. Conservative, low energy left and right. did nothing to inject a sense of urgency into the team Claps were even a little lethargic. 🫤 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 53 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: He is getting pretty far up there in age as far kicking goes. I'm pretty sure he can't make a 60 yarder. There is a reason he is the coach instead Well-played. Title changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: McD played scared the entire game He punted on 4th and 2 from our 43 down 11-0 As you mentioned he chose to punt rather than go for a 59 yard FG It would be one thing if the defense was playing lights out, but we were getting gashed all game long. He also wasted multiple timeouts on defense Not many NFL coaches would’ve done otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) Don’t agree McD played that one scared. Calculated risk either way. I liked the call myself. A 60 yard field goal is no guarantee at all, even for Bass. Also, our defense was beginning to get so fatigued by that time that a short field after a miss would not have ended well in all likelihood. Edited October 9, 2023 by Mojo44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ga boy said: Not many NFL coaches would’ve done otherwise. Reid and Harbaugh would have run Butker and Tucker out in a second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mojo44 said: Don’t agree McD played that one scared. Calculated risk either way. I liked the call myself. A 60 yard field goal is no guarantee at all, even for Bass. Also, our defense was beginning to get so fatigued by that time that a short field after a miss would not have ended well in all likelihood. What's the threshold? 52, 55? We're talking less than 10 yards difference, and Bass has proven that he has more than enough leg to make that kick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Freddie's Dead said: What's the threshold? 52, 55? We're talking less than 10 yards difference, and Bass has proven that he has more than enough leg to make that kick. I absolutely agree with you. He does have enough leg to make that kick. But at 60 it’s a calculated risk. Not a gimme by far. I would have been fine with giving it a try. But I do think McD wasn’t scared. He went in the other direction and I think it was a good call given the specifics I mentioned like our worn out defense. Context is just about everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Mojo44 said: I absolutely agree with you. He does have enough leg to make that kick. But at 60 it’s a calculated risk. Not a gimme by far. I would have been fine with giving it a try. But I do think McD wasn’t scared. He went in the other direction and I think it was a good call given the specifics I mentioned like our worn out defense. Context is just about everything. We seem to be in violent agreement. I never used the term scared, I just wanted McD to be more aggressive here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: We seem to be in violent agreement. I never used the term scared, I just wanted McD to be more aggressive here. Well that’s fair enough. I get why he wasn’t aggressive but if he had been and went forward I would have been all in. It could be me. When I hear “scared“ it makes me think he’s pooping his pants on the sideline. I really like your clarification and I thank you. Edited October 9, 2023 by Mojo44 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Never punt inside the opponents 50. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Josh should have run it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Doc said: And have Bass tear his ACL? Don't laugh, probably would have. I swear our conditioning team must be children. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Don't laugh, probably would have. I swear our conditioning team must be children. It's the curse of Rusty Jones. The gift from Mularkey that keeps on giving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: McD played scared the entire game He punted on 4th and 2 from our 43 down 11-0 As you mentioned he chose to punt rather than go for a 59 yard FG It would be one thing if the defense was playing lights out, but we were getting gashed all game long. He also wasted multiple timeouts on defense Oline was getting steamrolled…I wouldn’t have felt very comfortable in a 4th and short situation either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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