Over-reaction Three Weeks In.... Offense seems disjointed

[Billsfan1972]

Yep 75 points the last two weeks (7 by the defense) and a very scary Miami team this week.

 

Yesterday was never in doubt, but face it the Bills only had 16 points entering the 4th.

 

Been said in other threads and not ready to state this is a serious issue, but the Offense just seems a little off (and let's forget about the Jets game).

 

Week two I commented the red zone was somewhat of a slog and while the Bills moved up and down the field, it was primarily dinks and dunks and little over the middle.  No screens, TE's seem underutilized and none of those 20 yard lasers Allen is great at. 

 

Yesterday a great TD pass to Davis (his only catch of the day) and a few bb's to Diggs, three big scrambles by Josh and the last drive 64 yards rushing (with the game over), but again the offense I hope is a work in progress as I am not seeing a team firing on all cylinders. 

 

As said hope it is just an over-reaction.

 

  

[buffblue]

4 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yep 75 points the last two weeks (7 by the defense) and a very scary Miami team this week.

 

Yesterday was never in doubt, but face it the Bills only had 16 points entering the 4th.

 

Been said in other threads and not ready to state this is a serious issue, but the Offense just seems a little off (and let's forget about the Jets game).

 

Week two I commented the red zone was somewhat of a slog and while the Bills moved up and down the field, it was primarily dinks and dunks and little over the middle.  No screens, TE's seem underutilized and none of those 20 yard lasers Allen is great at. 

 

Yesterday a great TD pass to Davis (his only catch of the day) and a few bb's to Diggs, three big scrambles by Josh and the last drive 64 yards rushing (with the game over), but again the offense I hope is a work in progress as I am not seeing a team firing on all cylinders. 

 

As said hope it is just an over-reaction.

 

  

The concerning part is that our offensive line has played quite well, and yet there have still been struggles. Not sure how that can lead to anything other than Dorsey.

 

The offense is going to need to be much sharper this week for sure.

[teef]

I didn’t see it as disjointed, but maybe rather non-explosive. The defense did the heavy lifting yesterday, so I think it’s just how it worked out. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Passing game wasn’t good Sunday and it wasn’t because of the offensive line.

[Billsfan1972]

1 minute ago, teef said:

I didn’t see it as disjointed, but maybe rather non-explosive. The defense did the heavy lifting yesterday, so I think it’s just how it worked out. 

As I said over-reaction and pretty sure they need to be better vs. Miami, but who knows.  Lot's of third & 10's and similar and oops forgot to mention 4th down issues.

 

Edited September 25, 2023 by Billsfan1972

[pocoboy]

Things don't seem a whole lot different from 2nd half of 2022, except Josh's arm is back to where it needs to be.

 

Almost every wrinkle play fails. Sweeps, WR screens, they all seem very telegraphed. Whoever is their self-scout staff needs some turnover if they can't sort that out.

 

If Allen doesn't deliver pinpoint passes and/or Houdini acts, it would seem to be in trouble.

[Billznut]

I think what we are witnessing is the evolution into what the Bills braintrust sees as their “blueprint” to taking the next step for winning in the postseason. It’s no secret McD would like to see more running and more control by the trenches. I think we are witnessing Buffalo making the transformation from the pass happy offense of the last few years into what they think and hope will finally get them over the finish line in Jan and Feb. It will be a work in progress with peaks and valleys all season, seeing what works and what doesn’t. I expect the plan is to be firmly comfortable with this “new” style balanced offense by December for the home stretch. And I bet by next season they have it even more perfected. 

[Billsfan1972]

1 minute ago, Billznut said:

I think what we are witnessing is the evolution into what the Bills braintrust sees as their “blueprint” to taking the next step for winning in the postseason. It’s no secret McD would like to see more running and more control by the trenches. I think we are witnessing Buffalo making the transformation from the pass happy offense of the last few years into what they think and hope will finally get them over the finish line in Jan and Feb. It will be a work in progress with peaks and valleys all season, seeing what works and what doesn’t. I expect the plan is to be firmly comfortable with this “new” style balanced offense by December for the home stretch. And I bet by next season they have it even more perfected. 

Great so McD has decided to take away their greatest strength Josh Allen and put a muzzle on him?  Maybe he can do the same thing with Mahomes?

[JerseyBills]

I disagree about last week,  O was balanced and dominant.  

What changed in the 4th qtr was the run game , that's a great DL and they shut down our rbs for 3 qtrs but we still moved the ball fairly well and Dorsey stuck with the run and wore em out. Didn't need Allen wearing his Superman cape this week. Should have a much easier time running on Miami which will open the playbook. 

 

Rather they work out the kinks in the run game now , we have to stay balanced to win a SB

[HOUSE]

I was generally happy with the game plan but scoring 70 would have been better

[Billznut]

2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Great so McD has decided to take away their greatest strength Josh Allen and put a muzzle on him?  Maybe he can do the same thing with Mahomes?

I wouldn’t say muzzle, I’d say a tighter leash. I think their three headed running back monster of Cook, Murray and Harris was by design and they had publicly stated they don’t want Allen running and absorbing as many hits going forward. I think all this means more running, shorter passing game and an actual change in how they run the offense overall. They will never totally eliminate the need to be pass happy, when trailing or 2 minute hurry up obviously and also will still throw it out there as a change of pace to keep defenses honest. Think of it more of not muzzling Allen but obedience training for him, for his “own good” in the braintrust’s eyes. 

[pocoboy]

5 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Great so McD has decided to take away their greatest strength Josh Allen and put a muzzle on him?  Maybe he can do the same thing with Mahomes?

 

2-1. And the 1 was squarely on that greatest strength against a very formidable defense. I get it, you're pissed that Miami put up 70 on what may be the worst franchise since the Browns or maybe JaMarcus's Raidehs. There's no good reason to send Allen out there to throw 45 times against that team. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, pocoboy said:

 

2-1. And the 1 was squarely on that greatest strength against a very formidable defense. I get it, you're pissed that Miami put up 70 on what may be the worst franchise since the Browns or maybe JaMarcus's Raidehs. There's no good reason to send Allen out there to throw 45 times against that team. 

And, when it comes to point differential, Miami is is one, ONE better than us.

 

One point. With a 70-20.win.

 

Absorb that.

[Meatloaf63]

23 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yep 75 points the last two weeks (7 by the defense) and a very scary Miami team this week.

 

Yesterday was never in doubt, but face it the Bills only had 16 points entering the 4th.

 

Been said in other threads and not ready to state this is a serious issue, but the Offense just seems a little off (and let's forget about the Jets game).

 

Week two I commented the red zone was somewhat of a slog and while the Bills moved up and down the field, it was primarily dinks and dunks and little over the middle.  No screens, TE's seem underutilized and none of those 20 yard lasers Allen is great at. 

 

Yesterday a great TD pass to Davis (his only catch of the day) and a few bb's to Diggs, three big scrambles by Josh and the last drive 64 yards rushing (with the game over), but again the offense I hope is a work in progress as I am not seeing a team firing on all cylinders. 

 

As said hope it is just an over-reaction.

 

  

Don’t you dare speak a negative word about this offense or its coordinator 🤦‍♂️ don’t you know they won yesterday? You are nothing but a negative Nancy, positive posts only sir!!!

[pocoboy]

3 minutes ago, Billznut said:

I wouldn’t say muzzle, I’d say a tighter leash. I think their three headed running back monster of Cook, Murray and Harris was by design and they had publicly stated they don’t want Allen running and absorbing as many hits going forward. I think all this means more running, shorter passing game and an actual change in how they run the offense overall. They will never totally eliminate the need to be pass happy, when trailing or 2 minute hurry up obviously and also will still throw it out there as a change of pace to keep defenses honest. Think of it more of not muzzling Allen but obedience training for him, for his “own good” in the braintrust’s eyes. 

 

It could also be dummy tactics. This is the softer part of the schedule, no real need to be laying your cards out there for all to see just to be able to get all the praise for dropping 70 on a sub-.500 team.

[KDIGGZ]

The Raiders did not come out to play after halftime and Washington gave up in the 4th quarter. Take that out of the equation and focus on the competitive quarters and what do we have? This offense is definitely not clicking right now. This will draw groans and moans but it was very similar to the end of last year where we were still winning and putting up points but it just didn't look right and everyone was scared to admit it. Let's see what they do against Miami.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

The Raiders did not come out to play after halftime and Washington gave up in the 4th quarter. Take that out of the equation and focus on the competitive quarters and what do we have? This offense is definitely not clicking right now. This will draw groans and moans but it was very similar to the end of last year where we were still winning and putting up points but it just didn't look right and everyone was scared to admit it. Let's see what they do against Miami.

Did Denver ever try and compete in that game?

[The Jokeman]

We have the 2nd most points scored in the league. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, The Jokeman said:

We have the 2nd most points scored in the league. 

DisJoIntED!

[eball]

I haven’t looked at the play-by-play but it appeared to me the Bills made a concerted effort to run the ball on 1st and 2nd downs in the first half yesterday, and those plays were simply stuffed.  It wasn’t the game plan, it was the execution and Washington was prepared to defend the run.

 

I know everyone is up in arms about the 4th down call.  I get it, I really do, but the Bills had not been “successful” all game in short yardage and it was a safe play call, the DL just made a good play.

 

Only in the 4th quarter did the Bills finally wear down the Commandos and find success running.

 

The Davis drop was a big drive killer.

 

I think Dorsey is doing fine…we are spreading the ball around and still getting it to Diggs.  Not every game is going to be the offense moving like a hot knife through butter.  Washington has talent on defense.

 

 

Edited September 25, 2023 by eball