Doc Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Warcodered said: Was Orlovsky saying that Terrell Bernard is playing middle linebacker “as good as anybody right now in the NFL doing that”? If so, high praise. Edited October 3, 2023 by Doc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 8 hours ago, HappyDays said: With respect to the DL, I think Milano and Bernard are far and away the #1 reason for our defensive shutdowns over the past 3 weeks. Honorable mention to Taron Johnson. Our 2nd level is the best in the league and it isn't close. They're getting their hands on a lot of balls and they aren't letting anyone get past them. I would agree that Bernard/Milano/Johnson is probably right there with the 49ers for best second level in the NFL.. and it's a huge reason why our Defense is elite. Our DL though, for as elite as they are as rushing the passer.. also is solid against the run and doesn't let big bodies get to the second level. That also allows our linebackers to play in space, where their speed and athleticism is put on full display. The entire Front 7 is a monster, and they work so well together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 At least one of these runs is UTM as one concerned poster coins it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: At least one of these runs is UTM as one concerned poster coins it. I counted 4 UTM run plays. The last one, who took on the block of 300 lbs guard, disengaged and swarmed to the ball. That was incredibly impressive….most MLB outside of the top ones are getting washed away on that. Damn, Orvlosky might be right…Bernard is playing at an elite level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Awesome to see. Now just need Dorian Williams to do the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, JDHillFan said: At least one of these runs is UTM as one concerned poster coins it. It’s crazy how the Cover1 boys spent years trying to show off Edmunds, then just pivot showing this stuff lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, JDHillFan said: At least one of these runs is UTM as one concerned poster coins it. This guy was totally trashed as a draft pick from the time that he was drafted up until the start of the season Glad he worked out now we need Dorien Williams to work out 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 4 hours ago, FireChans said: It’s crazy how the Cover1 boys spent years trying to show off Edmunds, then just pivot showing this stuff lol Cover 1 are good at what they do. But they are homers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Cover 1 are good at what they do. But they are homers. Did they also happen to mention the Jags ran for 200yards on us😂😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Did they also happen to mention the Jags ran for 200yards on us😂😂 In fairness to them Bernard did play well on Sunday even with the utter chaos around him. But on any play where the Jags were able to neutralise him the rest was a mess. Particularly our outside contain. Was a good plan from Jacksonville. They knew we were thin on the edge and down to backup corners outside and they called their run game accordingly. Does happen to play to ETN's strengths as well. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I have been so pleasantly surprised. I still can’t shake the feeling of how small he is and how Milano struggles to stay healthy and he is much thicker than him. I also worried how he will do against a Tennessee and Henry. but dude has been balling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: In fairness to them Bernard did play well on Sunday even with the utter chaos around him. But on any play where the Jags were able to neutralise him the rest was a mess. Particularly our outside contain. Was a good plan from Jacksonville. They knew we were thin on the edge and down to backup corners outside and they called their run game accordingly. Does happen to play to ETN's strengths as well. Here are two stats I want you to think about re the Bills defense rn 27th in opponents net yards/play 31th in opponents rush yards/attempt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Here are two stats I want you to think about re the Bills defense rn 27th in opponents net yards/play 31th in opponents rush yards/attempt That YPA was notably worse prior to our injuries this week. We also rank 25th in rushing yards allowed. That's the problem with selective use of video to illustrate points. Bernard's been a pleasant surprise and the liability that he could have been. The issue is our D overall. It's very high-energy, and IMO contributing to the injury situation. It's built to stop the pass, which it's done nicely, but largely against Wilson, Garropalo, and Howard. Tua and Lawrence played alright, particularly considering that their OCs led them to a combined 338 rushing yards, or 169 rushing YPG against us. So it seems that some caution is advised. Meanwhile, Miami, seemingly a defense with less talent than us, is right there with us in the defensive rankings, yet with a somewhat better rushing defense, particularly the past four weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, PBF81 said: That YPA was notably worse prior to our injuries this week. We also rank 25th in rushing yards allowed. That's the problem with selective use of video to illustrate points. Bernard's been a pleasant surprise and the liability that he could have been. The issue is our D overall. It's very high-energy, and IMO contributing to the injury situation. It's built to stop the pass, which it's done nicely, but largely against Wilson, Garropalo, and Howard. Tua and Lawrence played alright, particularly considering that their OCs led them to a combined 338 rushing yards, or 169 rushing YPG against us. So it seems that some caution is advised. Meanwhile, Miami, seemingly a defense with less talent than us, is right there with us in the defensive rankings, yet with a somewhat better rushing defense, particularly the past four weeks. high energy is a good way of putting it imo they've been reliant on the sacks and turnovers, first in the league in both...imo sacks can be relied upon but we all know turnovers have a big luck component this is a defense dependent on the big play more than anything else right now, it has not been 'good' imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 it's great to see this guy do well! Sometimes players just need that opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: high energy is a good way of putting it imo they've been reliant on the sacks and turnovers, first in the league in both...imo sacks can be relied upon but we all know turnovers have a big luck component this is a defense dependent on the big play more than anything else right now, it has not been 'good' imo I don’t care if they’re no longer top 5 or the top defense in the NFL. Just make a few timely stops against the better offenses, that’s all I ask. Can we get 3 punts from the likes of Mahomes, Tua, etc.? It’s up to Josh and crew to win us the SB. Always has been. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: In fairness to them Bernard did play well on Sunday even with the utter chaos around him. But on any play where the Jags were able to neutralise him the rest was a mess. Particularly our outside contain. Was a good plan from Jacksonville. They knew we were thin on the edge and down to backup corners outside and they called their run game accordingly. Does happen to play to ETN's strengths as well. I hate to say it but we were badly out coached on Sunday. On both sides of the ball. Poor clock and timeout management, awful offensive game plan, we let their two best players Etienne and Ridley go off on us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Here are two stats I want you to think about re the Bills defense rn 27th in opponents net yards/play 31th in opponents rush yards/attempt We are being more aggressive which would lead to bigger plays. The alternative would be playing it safe, a read react defense like Frazier. We also probably are tops in the league in negative stops If you tell me we are going to give up big plays but we effect the QB consistently, get sacks, turnovers and holding teams to 16 ppg per game....I will 100% take it. Our 3rd down defense is 13th right now but it was top 5 prior to the Jags game. The Jags offense would have continued to suck if we were at least semi healthy. That number will go back down and I should be top 10 by the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I hate to say it but we were badly out coached on Sunday. On both sides of the ball. Poor clock and timeout management, awful offensive game plan, we let their two best players Etienne and Ridley go off on us. They did have a game planning time advantage not having go anywhere let alone international and deal with jetlag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: We are being more aggressive which would lead to bigger plays. The alternative would be playing it safe, a read react defense like Frazier. We also probably are tops in the league in negative stops If you tell me we are going to give up big plays but we effect the QB consistently, get sacks, turnovers and holding teams to 16 ppg per game....I will 100% take it. Our 3rd down defense is 13th right now but it was top 5 prior to the Jags game. The Jags offense would have continued to suck if we were at least semi healthy. That number will go back down and I should be top 10 by the end of the year. Yes this is the optimistic take however...I am not sure we can rely on turnovers to remain stable, there is a significant luck factor to them the sacks and QB pressures should be reliable, but the turnovers inform ppg so if they trend toward average ppg will likely increase not discounting injuries as a factor but those guys aren't coming back anytime soon and again I believe the defense was pretty overrated coming into Jags, they just proved it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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