Thrivefourfive Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Jesus, he’s a nice junior college middle killer. But having offensive lineman continuing to find him 5 yards down field and clamp him up was disgusting to watch. TB is really REALY out of his element. I’m not even sure if he’s explosive enough to be a special teamer (he can surely play punt team). Another negative takeaway from this ass game. 3 3 2 1 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Don't take for granted that we have Ed Oliver though. You can overlook these holes and compensate for them when you have a world beating top end talent like Oliver as a priority in your championship roster building strategy. 2 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 He came on in the second half and made some nice stops at the LOS. I'd give the kid a few games to find his sea legs. 8 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 He played better than I thought he would. 12 1 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I thought Bernard played better than I thought he would. Had some rough spots, particularly in the run game, but I actually feel better about him at MLB Just now, NewEra said: He played better than I thought he would. Copycat 3 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Bernard was terrible. I would have been more encouraged if I saw more guards manhandling 10 yards down the field but it was often tight ends that were pushing him down the field like a blocking sled 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: Jesus, he’s a nice junior college middle killer. But having offensive lineman continuing to find him 5 yards down field and clamp him up was disgusting to watch. TB is really REALY out of his element. I’m not even sure if he’s explosive enough to be a special teamer (he can surely play punt team). Another negative takeaway from this ass game. He lead our team in tackles with 11. 4 1 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: Jesus, he’s a nice junior college middle killer. But having offensive lineman continuing to find him 5 yards down field and clamp him up was disgusting to watch. TB is really REALY out of his element. I’m not even sure if he’s explosive enough to be a special teamer (he can surely play punt team). Another negative takeaway from this ass game. Sounds like a defensive line thread. There a few plays I saw live he’d probably like to react quicker on. Got eaten up because he was indecisive. Overall though he wasn’t a problem tonight. Defense played great other than a few missed tackles. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Mods might as well just make a designated thread for every player on the team at this point 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I don't know how you watch this game and then find strength to pound Bernard of all people... He's not in the top 5 reasons why we lost. 4 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Lots of blame can be given for this loss but Bernard did not lose the game for the Buffalo Bills tonight. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanahan's Horseshoe Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 He’s brutal. Just jumping into gaps all night long. No pop. Lightest hands I’ve ever seen on a MLB. Total joke. To think this staff had Kuechley and Thomas Davis. It’s almost like they can’t admit their evals are wrong. Dude won’t start for another team after he fails here. Total joke. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He lead our team in tackles with 11. Congrats to Bernand for being gifted the starting MLB job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He lead our team in tackles with 11. I’d run my offense at him too. that said, I’m real curious what the tape will say on poyer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, NoSaint said: I’d run my offense at him too. that said, I’m real curious what the tape will say on poyer Spoiler alert: He came crawling back to Buffalo in FA because he's washed. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Lots of blame can be given for this loss but Bernard did not lose the game for the Buffalo Bills tonight. No but he will be a difficult problem to solve going forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 He made a couple of nice plays, but his lack of size was really used against him tonight. He was manhandled at times and just got blown up on more plays than you would like to see. It's his first game, so I am willing to cut him a little slack, but he has a long way to go. In the end, he just might not be physical enough to win consistently. Won't be surprised to see someone else starting there sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: He came on in the second half and made some nice stops at the LOS. I'd give the kid a few games to find his sea legs. I hate to sound like a Troy Aikman, but a well-coached 16 year old would throw his body forward when there were obvious running plays by the Jets at those points in the game. He’s tiny, and doesn’t look super fast. He looks like a practice squad second team bait player to replicate a bad or hurt MLB for the Bills offense to plan against. Again, as one of two Linebackers on the field, he’s out of his element. Side note: if the Bills screw up what will be a Matt Milano Defensive Player of the Year campaign… that’d just be perfect. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 His tape is gonna be really bad. I tried watching him early and he was getting straight plowed onto his back. It was not good. He is too small and he is not fast enough either. Just don’t get it. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: Spoiler alert: He came crawling back to Buffalo in FA because he's washed. My worry all off-season was he lost a step and behind a bad MLB they would ask too much of him. I think we saw that on both the early breece runs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Thrivefourfive said: I hate to sound like a Troy Aikman, but a well-coached 16 year old would throw his body forward when there were obvious running plays by the Jets at those points in the game. He’s tiny, and doesn’t look super fast. He looks like a practice squad second team bait player to replicate a bad or hurt MLB for the Bills offense to plan against. Again, as one of two Linebackers on the field, he’s out of his element. Side note: if the Bills screw up what will be a Matt Milano Defensive Player of the Year campaign… that’d just be perfect. Milano deserves better. Hoping Kirksey can be ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: He came on in the second half and made some nice stops at the LOS. I'd give the kid a few games to find his sea legs. Not going to happen....Kirksey time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: Unfortunately those tackles were 6 to 8 yards downfield. Bernard shot the gap correctly for a 1 yard gain at one point. Edmunds is still trying to figure out if it's a run or pass in Green Bay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Thrivefourfive said: I hate to sound like a Troy Aikman, but a well-coached 16 year old would throw his body forward when there were obvious running plays by the Jets at those points in the game. He’s tiny, and doesn’t look super fast. He looks like a practice squad second team bait player to replicate a bad or hurt MLB for the Bills offense to plan against. Again, as one of two Linebackers on the field, he’s out of his element. Side note: if the Bills screw up what will be a Matt Milano Defensive Player of the Year campaign… that’d just be perfect. Imagine if this team lost Milano to injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, NoSaint said: No but he will be a difficult problem to solve going forward Maybe so. He and all the players on D will get a lot of blame if the O turns the ball over 4 times and scores 16 points per game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Spoiler alert: He came crawling back to Buffalo in FA because he's washed. Looks to be the case. 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: My worry all off-season was he lost a step and behind a bad MLB they would ask too much of him. I think we saw that on both the early breece runs. Relying on old legs on the backend always had the chance to blow up on us. I was hoping the guys had some of the magic left but Micah and Poyer are in year 11. Hard to keep that level of play up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: Not going to happen....Kirksey time. Maybe Bernard isn't the answer, but he got better as the game went on and I'm willing to give him some time. He wasn't the reason we lost. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 He had a great blitz in the first half and was tackled by the RB, surprised there was no call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Maybe so. He and all the players on D will get a lot of blame if the O turns the ball over 4 times and scores 16 points per game. If talking the impossible, sure. If Josh has 68 turnovers TB will be low on the list. but assuming this offense lands top 10ish, and TB doesn’t magically find 20lbs of heft while not losing any speed - he’s the likely consistent weekly issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Bernard needs to tap his DTs ass (Oliver) and shift the DLine left when he sees an overloaded 3 TE front. The DL did not shift and got overlveraged to the left and got caught. Bernard was even looking back at Hyde communicating the overload. Bernard needs to tap ass and shift. Time to be a leader fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Actually, I thought he was better than I expected. I might have had a low bar though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Bernard needs to tap his DTs ass (Oliver) and shift the DLine left when he sees an overloaded 3 TE front. The DL did not shift and got overlveraged to the left and got caught. Bernard was even looking back at Hyde communicating the overload. Bernard needs to tap ass and shift. Time to be a leader fast. That is another point. Luckily it didn’t cost them bc Wilson was playing. But Bernard did not seem to know what adjustments or calls to make either. Doubly bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, ngbills said: That is another point. Luckily it didn’t cost them bc Wilson was playing. But Bernard did not seem to know what adjustments or calls to make either. Doubly bad. It certainly cost us. That was the Breece Hall 80 yard run. Watch the replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Dr.Sack said: It certainly cost us. That was the Breece Hall 80 yard run. Watch the replay. You are right. I guess I should have said it would not have cost us if our O didn’t crap itself. But Bernard was involved on many of the jets positive plays. Including halls big runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 He’s just holding the spot for K Kirksey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 He was absolutely swallowed up whole a few times out there.Obviously he will only be able to get it done on speed alone.He gets a body on him and he’s toast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Bernard was overall better than I thought he’d be when real bullets started flying. But my bar was very low. There was one play in the 4th (?) where he got absolutely obliterated. It happened right in front of me on the 30. It was actually hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Lots of blame can be given for this loss but Bernard did not lose the game for the Buffalo Bills tonight. The defense did not lose the game for us tonight. Any rational fan who watched the game will admit that. Oh wait, look at the place I am writing this at. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloTX Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 This was his pre season game. Hopefully with a full game under his belt, he builds on his confidence and keeps improving. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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