Jay_Fixit Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 If Allen doesn’t turn it over FOUR TIMES then this isn’t even an issue. Quit crying about penalties. 1 Quote
Barnaby Wilde Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 3:28 AM, Simon said: Wouldn't have mattered; they were still in FG range Expand You can't give up on the play. A TD beats you for sure but a field goal is an attempt. Anything can happen. A muffed snap a block, alot of things can happen. The odds are slim but better than your odds giving up a TD there. Quote
Bob Jones Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 1:39 PM, Jay_Fixit said: If Allen doesn’t turn it over FOUR TIMES then this isn’t even an issue. Quit crying about penalties. Expand Yes, very likely that Jets still would have won on a FG, but..... It IS an issue because it's either gross incompetence by the refs....no way that wasn't seen by 3-4 refs as it was in the open field, right next to the ball carrier....or the "fix" was in. Also, why couldn't the TD have been overturned on replay review, as all TDs are reviewed? 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Wouldn't matter. They just needed a FG to win and were in range. Quote
CountDorkula Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 1:49 PM, Bob Jones said: Yes, very likely that Jets still would have won on a FG, but..... It IS an issue because it's either gross incompetence by the refs....no way that wasn't seen by 3-4 refs as it was in the open field, right next to the ball carrier....or the "fix" was in. Also, why couldn't the TD have been overturned on replay review, as all TDs are reviewed? Expand In terms of issues. I’d rank it dead last. so they have the ball at the 20 instead of a TD. they run twice and then kick a chip shot FG on 3rd down. bills still lose. Quote
PBF81 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 We shouldn't have had only 16 points in regulation. The only game that we scored fewer points in last season was the Cincy playoff game. Quote
Drew21PA Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Knock it off lose with grace it’s week 1 Quote
Bob Jones Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 1:51 PM, CountDorkula said: In terms of issues. I’d rank it dead last. so they have the ball at the 20 instead of a TD. they run twice and then kick a chip shot FG on 3rd down. bills still lose. Expand The PERSONAL FOUL leg whip happened at the 27 yard line, so take it back 15 yards to the 42 yard line. So yeah, Bills D could have made a stand... 1 Quote
CountDorkula Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 1:58 PM, Bob Jones said: The PERSONAL FOUL leg whip happened at the 27 yard line, so take it back 15 yards to the 42 yard line. So yeah, Bills D could have made a stand... Expand I don’t think it’s a penalty either way. it’s incidental contact. 1 1 Quote
Livinginthepast Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 1:48 PM, Reverse Meathead said: You can't give up on the play. A TD beats you for sure but a field goal is an attempt. Anything can happen. A muffed snap a block, alot of things can happen. The odds are slim but better than your odds giving up a TD there. Expand I thought the same thing at first about the non call because it happened in the Bills half but then I remembered Josh's freak fumble against the Vikings last year that gifted them the victory. Anything can happen in an NFL game and even though the Jets kicker was on last night, he might have missed, fumbled snap etc. In addition, another poster reminded me of JP Losman this morning and I recalled this piece of brilliance, which was appropriately against the Jets with just 2 mins left in the game. 1 Quote
Success Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I didn't think it was as clear as the announcer said, personally. But - as most have said - it wouldn't have made much difference. And we deserved to lose that game. The Jets won it fair & square. Credit to them & Saleh. Some teams might have folded after seeing the QB go down like that. Quote
frostbitmic Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Unfortunately the Jets had more heart than the Bills, and the better QB. Quote
BullBuchanan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Who cares? We lost the game before it started. Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 3:27 AM, mannc said: Wouldn’t matter. They still get at least a FG Expand exactly. Enforce the 15 yard personal foul penalty and they still get the ball at like the 35 yard line. Quote
1ManRaid Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 (edited) On 9/12/2023 at 1:38 PM, blitzboy54 said: What difference did that make. If they call it, it's first 10 on the 35. They kick the FG and they win. At that point just let us go to bed. Expand First and 10 on the 42. Foul at the 27, 15 yard penalty to the 42, plus 18 yards for end zone and snap = 60 yard FG. Odds are the Jets run 3x up the middle for no yards. I'll take those odds any day over literally just handing the Jets the win with a TD on a blown call. That's the difference it would make, you sad quitter. On 9/12/2023 at 1:51 PM, CountDorkula said: In terms of issues. I’d rank it dead last. so they have the ball at the 20 instead of a TD. they run twice and then kick a chip shot FG on 3rd down. bills still lose. Expand How are you getting the 20? Foul was at the 27, plus 15 yard penalty to the 42. That's a 60 yard FG hardly a chip shot. On 9/12/2023 at 5:56 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: exactly. Enforce the 15 yard personal foul penalty and they still get the ball at like the 35 yard line. Expand 42 yard line, foul at the 27. Edited September 17, 2023 by 1ManRaid 1 2 Quote
Scott7975 Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 I was actually looking for this thread to put the fine tweet in but couldn't find it. So just started a new thread. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 3:26 AM, Reed83HOF said: https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1701436519876067602 Expand Garbage non-call. Morris was on a clear path to make the tackle. Not sure why all the negative reactions. 2 Quote
ToGoGo Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 Penalty then 3 and out. Who knows. We could’ve got the ball back. On 9/16/2023 at 10:07 PM, 1ManRaid said: First and 10 on the 42. Foul at the 27, 15 yard penalty to the 42, plus 12 yards for end zone and snap = 60 yard FG. Odds are the Jets run 3x up the middle for no yards. I'll take those odds any day over literally just handing the Jets the win with a TD on a blown call. That's the difference it would make, you sad quitter. How are you getting the 20? Foul was at the 27, plus 15 yard penalty to the 42. That's a 60 yard FG hardly a chip shot. 42 yard line, foul at the 27. Expand They’re just emotional losers. “We deserved to lose!” Brady and Belichick would’ve taken that penalty all day and pulled out a win somehow. 1 1 Quote
jethro_tull Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 Right you are.... they could have won ugly. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-fines-chazz-surratt-for-tripping-on-jets-game-winning-punt-return-touchdown Quote
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