nucci Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: It is what it is. what is? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: His trade value is so incredibly low right now-what is any team going to give up for him? It’s still a relatively low contract, he’s worth more than a 6th round pick The hope is that he gets shamed into playing better, but it’s clear, a healthy Benford and even Jackson are better options right now. Just a whiff by Beane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 I think when you draft a guy that high, you need to put him on the field to get a decent sample. I know the coaching staff doesn’t trust him, and he hasn’t proven himself, but it feels like more of a wasted pick when he doesn’t even get the chance to fail on the field. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I feel like they could have traded him and still gotten something from a team that played his style. This was a bad move Yup, pretty stupid a zone team drafting a man press coverage db? Gotta be smarter on your 1st round picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 I'm betting this is drugs or alcohol. He is more talented than Benford or Jackson and he has played better. Has to be more to the story. 1 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 1 minute ago, SirAndrew said: I think when you draft a guy that high, you need to put him on the field to get a decent sample. I know the coaching staff doesn’t trust him, and he hasn’t proven himself, but it feels like more of a wasted pick when he doesn’t even get the chance to fail on the field. It's like they're terrified to allow him that chance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, nucci said: what is? That he's inactive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) I will always wonder if the pick was meant to be McDuffie (like most of us wanted it to be) and we took Elam in a panic after the Chiefs jumped right in front of us to snag him. Sigh. Always the dang Chiefs.. Edited September 11, 2023 by BobBelcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I mean he was clearly 4th of 4 among our boundary options in pre-season by camp reports and what we saw on games. Still kinda feel we are gonna need him for the Dolphins games though. He is our best olay vs Tyreek IMO. Agree with this. He is going to be used as a matchup corner till he learns the system better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I think when you draft a guy that high, you need to put him on the field to get a decent sample. I know the coaching staff doesn’t trust him, and he hasn’t proven himself, but it feels like more of a wasted pick when he doesn’t even get the chance to fail on the field. He was the best CB in the playoffs last year. Not sure how he hasn’t proven himself. This is on the coach for not figuring out how to use his skills . Edited September 11, 2023 by Meatloaf63 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Yup, pretty stupid a zone team drafting a man press coverage db? Gotta be smarter on your 1st round picks. It’s a huge stain for Beane. He was set on drafting a corner in the first no matter what. This pick proved it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Was in a tough spot for this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Thank God the Kincaid pick looks like it's going to be a slam dunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: The hope is that he gets shamed into playing better, but it’s clear, a healthy Benford and even Jackson are better options right now. Just a whiff by Beane. I see it the other way…I think it’s completely killed his confidence. I honestly feel bad for the kid. I can’t imagine the shame he must feel after being a first round pick. He should have been dealt and given a second chance on a team that fit his strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 1 minute ago, whorlnut said: It’s a huge stain for Beane. He was set on drafting a corner in the first no matter what. This pick proved it. Wasn’t he pick 27? Not like we grabbed him at 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I'm betting this is drugs or alcohol. He is more talented than Benford or Jackson and he has played better. Has to be more to the story. I think he's just not picking it up mentally. Yes he's more athletic and physically talented, he must look that bad in practice. We at least allowed Cody Ford to suck on the field before benching him. We're not even putting Elam on the field...fans don't see everything in a players development. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, nucci said: what is? That is 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Agree with this. He is going to be used as a matchup corner till he learns the system better. Disagree completely. He should know it by now. Benford didn’t have any issues picking it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I think this is a solid point. This is more of a reflection on how good Benford and Jackson have been versus how "bad" Elam has been. Cam Lewis can also play outside corner in a pinch. The Bills have a lot of depth in their secondary. It's a tough roster to crack. Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I think he's just not picking it up mentally. Yes he's more athletic and physically talented, he must look that bad in practice. We at least allowed Cody Ford to suck on the field before benching him. We're not even putting Elam on the field...fans don't see everything in a players development. Leodis Elam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I'm betting this is drugs or alcohol. He is more talented than Benford or Jackson and he has played better. Has to be more to the story. I think that it is definitely possible there is something else going on. I still go back to that healthy scratch at New England last for them to start Xavier Rhodes who was totally washed and release him a week later. There was more to that then met the eye for sure. I think this inactive accords with what we saw in pre-season so I am less inclined to smell a rat but there deinitely could be something with him that goes beyond performance. Edited September 11, 2023 by GunnerBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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