Thanks coach McDermott… you’re one of the best coaches in the game.

[Dopey]

From 20 year losers to regular division winners and SB contenders. 
Here ya go newcam2012, PBF81 and the like, flame away. I noticed a trend a while ago here. Any attempt at a positive thread MUST be shot down by negative Nancies. Hey Einstein, are the Bengals still better than the Bills? Thing is we’ve read your negative crap already. We know! We get it! You guys make this board a ***** place IMO. Go get laid or something. Life is awesome and it sucks that people like me stay away from this place to come  back a few weeks later and the same vocal group is writing the same 💩 as weeks ago. From what I read, Allen is the only good thing we have going for us. Last thought: you guys suck and it feels like you’re taking this site with you. Enjoy. 

[Beast]

You forgot to add me to your post….that is if you listen to Limeaid. He thinks I’m a troll. 🤷🏼

[Chicken Boo]

I actually applaud posters like newcam2012, PBF81, etc. They don't follow the herd and can actually see the forest for the trees.  

 

McDermott has done a great job in helping to build this franchise to where it is today, but soon it's going get to a point where just making the playoffs isn't good enough.

 

I'm sure the players love him, but Bucs players loved Tony Dungy in 2000 as well.  

Edited June 11, 2023 by Chicken Boo

[Gugny]

10 minutes ago, Dopey said:

From 20 year losers to regular division winners and SB contenders. 
Here ya go newcam2012, PBF81 and the like, flame away. I noticed a trend a while ago here. Any attempt at a positive thread MUST be shot down by negative Nancies. Hey Einstein, are the Bengals still better than the Bills? Thing is we’ve read your negative crap already. We know! We get it! You guys make this board a ***** place IMO. Go get laid or something. Life is awesome and it sucks that people like me stay away from this place to come  back a few weeks later and the same vocal group is writing the same 💩 as weeks ago. From what I read, Allen is the only good thing we have going for us. Last thought: you guys suck and it feels like you’re taking this site with you. Enjoy. 

Are people negative? Or observant?

[hondo in seattle]

3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

I actually applaud posters like newcam2012, PBF81, etc. They don't follow the herd and can actually see the forest for the trees.  

 

McDermott has done a great job in helping to build this franchise to where it is today, but soon it's going get to a point where just making the playoffs isn't good enough.

 

I'm sure the players love him, but Bucs players loved Tony Dungy in 2000 as well.  

 

I'm okay with McD being Dungy.  In the playoffs every year.  Won a Lombardi.  

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Dopey said:

From 20 year losers to regular division winners and SB contenders. 
Here ya go newcam2012, PBF81 and the like, flame away. I noticed a trend a while ago here. Any attempt at a positive thread MUST be shot down by negative Nancies. Hey Einstein, are the Bengals still better than the Bills? Thing is we’ve read your negative crap already. We know! We get it! You guys make this board a ***** place IMO. Go get laid or something. Life is awesome and it sucks that people like me stay away from this place to come  back a few weeks later and the same vocal group is writing the same 💩 as weeks ago. From what I read, Allen is the only good thing we have going for us. Last thought: you guys suck and it feels like you’re taking this site with you. Enjoy. 

The Ignore function is your friend.  You won’t see their sorry schtick and you’ll enjoy the board a lot more than you do now.  Put yourself out of the misery.  
 

I’ve ignored several of them in past weeks and have noticed my level of enjoyment has risen.  Quoting them will just give you more of the same regurgitated 🤮 that they wrote in every thread.  I haven’t ignored newcam yet, some of his posts make me laugh and feel good about myself.  But that will likely change soon.  

[Mr. WEO]

Stay away again

[KDIGGZ]

Unfortunately a lot of you guys continuously get slapped in the face with a reality check and it clearly makes you upset. Negative nancies or whatever you want to call it, it's the real world saying hi. If the Bills are so great and McDermott is such a good coach and Allen is the best QB in history, then what do we have to show for it? How many super bowls? When all is said and done I don't think they are going to say the Bills made 1 AFC championship game so they are a great team. They will say the Bills are a joke, wide right and music city miracle and 13 seconds. Nobody outside Buffalo cares about the Bills until they win it all. That's reality

[JerseyBills]

Heck yeah. McD and Beane have been a blessing.  Super consistent and stability.  These guys are amazing at their craft. Both only going into year 7 , still learning, the best is yet to come. Beane had his best off season,  we'll see on the draft. Expect McD to have his best season,  although last year was amazing considering 4 All pros, White,Von,Hyde and Poyer were all banged up and the Damar situation.  For him to go 14-4 was amazing. Fell short but this is the year

 

Ppl saying they'll take 1 SB and suck for years, well we'll get SBs and will never suck with McBeane and Allen.  All elite at what they do 

2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Unfortunately a lot of you guys continuously get slapped in the face with a reality check and it clearly makes you upset. Negative nancies or whatever you want to call it, it's the real world saying hi. If the Bills are so great and McDermott is such a good coach and Allen is the best QB in history, then what do we have to show for it? How many super bowls? When all is said and done I don't think they are going to say the Bills made 1 AFC championship game so they are a great team. They will say the Bills are a joke, wide right and music city miracle and 13 seconds. Nobody outside Buffalo cares about the Bills until they win it all. That's reality

Nobody cares? We have the cover athlete on Madden and a bunch of prime time and 4 pm games.  Obviously the league and networks realize Buf is one of the most watched teams in the league. The Lombardis will come!

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

I actually applaud posters like newcam2012, PBF81, etc. They don't follow the herd and can actually see the forest for the trees.  

 

McDermott has done a great job in helping to build this franchise to where it is today, but soon it's going get to a point where just making the playoffs isn't good enough.

 

I'm sure the players love him, but Bucs players loved Tony Dungy in 2000 as well.  

I think McDermott is on the hot seat. 
 

He’s not an elite HC.  He’s a good to very good coach. 
 

He needs to get this team over the hump.  If he doesn’t do that within 2 years, depending on the circumstances (mainly injuries), he should probably be replaced.  He’ll then be hired immediately and turn around another franchise.  Why? Because he’s a good-very good HC.  
 

I don’t put last years season on McD.  Not in the least. The injuries and circumstances of the season were too much to overcome last year.  I thought McD did a great job keeping things together until the Cinci game.  I do put the two previous KC playoffs losses directly in his head. He was slaughtered in the first matchup and made the biggest coaching blunder in team history in the second.  The Bills have also outplayed the chiefs in head to head games 2 of 3 games since then (13 seconds was bad.  I thought we deserved to win but we didn’t really outplay them). 
 

that’s the reality. The guys mentioned in the post tell a lot of half truths.  They seem to rant a lot and don’t see both sides of what they say.  There is some truth to a lot of what they post but they’re blinded by their frustration and don’t look at the entire picture and refuse to think there are other ways to see this.  

 

 

[JJGauna]

The funny thing is it really doesn’t matter what we think lol. If you want to change coaches buy the team.

[Dopey]

28 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Are people negative? Or observant?

Observant? The first few times, Maybe. IMO  it’s negative when every attempt at a positive thread is met with the same negative stuff, by the same people saying the same thing over and over. In my op I wrote that we get it ,we get it. There’s plenty of threads with that sentiment. IMO there is a lot to be happy about with this team, but posters like success will start a thread regarding the positives on this team and the thread is overrun with the same negative people, with the same negative stuff. We heard/read it already. Quite a bit, actually. 

[GunnerBill]

24 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I think McDermott is on the hot seat. 
 

He’s not an elite HC.  He’s a good to very good coach. 
 

He needs to get this team over the hump.  If he doesn’t do that within 2 years, depending on the circumstances (mainly injuries), he should probably be replaced.  He’ll then be hired immediately and turn around another franchise.  Why? Because he’s a good-very good HC.  
 

I don’t put last years season on McD.  Not in the least. The injuries and circumstances of the season were too much to overcome last year.  I thought McD did a great job keeping things together until the Cinci game.  I do put the two previous KC playoffs losses directly in his head. He was slaughtered in the first matchup and made the biggest coaching blunder in team history in the second.  The Bills have also outplayed the chiefs in head to head games 2 of 3 games since then (13 seconds was bad.  I thought we deserved to win but we didn’t really outplay them). 
 

that’s the reality. The guys mentioned in the post tell a lot of half truths.  They seem to rant a lot and don’t see both sides of what they say.  There is some truth to a lot of what they post but they’re blinded by their frustration and don’t look at the entire picture and refuse to think there are other ways to see this.  

 

 

Agree with most of this although I don't really put 2020 on him either. I think the Chiefs were better coached in the game, no question (I actually think Spags > Dabes was the biggest coaching mismatch that day) but they were also just a more experienced, more talented team. You can't ignore than in 2020 they showed that in the regular season too. I don't think the Bills were 'ready' to beat the Chiefs that year. In 2021 and since we have been the better team in all 3 H2H meetings IMO.... though only narrowly in the playoff game.... and that is why it was close enough for the coaching blunders at the end to cost us. 

[Gugny]

6 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Observant? The first few times, Maybe. IMO  it’s negative when every attempt at a positive thread is met with the same negative stuff, by the same people saying the same thing over and over. In my op I wrote that we get it ,we get it. There’s plenty of threads with that sentiment. IMO there is a lot to be happy about with this team, but posters like success will start a thread regarding the positives on this team and the thread is overrun with the same negative people, with the same negative stuff. We heard/read it already. Quite a bit, actually. 

Yeah, there is a difference between being observant and crusading. 
 

But it goes both ways. 
 

McDermott deserves plenty of credit for helping to turn the franchise around. But let’s be honest … most head coaches with top 5 NFL QBs tend to find success. 
 

I’m perfectly fine with someone opining that McDermott has done a good job in leading the Bills to becoming a perennial playoff team, while also pointing out that one AFCCG and multiple early playoff exits = underperforming. 
 

It’s exactly how I feel. 
 

 

Edited June 11, 2023 by Gugny

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Observant? The first few times, Maybe. IMO  it’s negative when every attempt at a positive thread is met with the same negative stuff, by the same people saying the same thing over and over. In my op I wrote that we get it ,we get it. There’s plenty of threads with that sentiment. IMO there is a lot to be happy about with this team, but posters like success will start a thread regarding the positives on this team and the thread is overrun with the same negative people, with the same negative stuff. We heard/read it already. Quite a bit, actually. 

 

There is truth to this to. And in fact they jump in to threads to make the same points over and over again where there is only a tangential link to what they want to say... almost as a counter to anyone saying anything positive. So much so in fact that one of the poster referred to jumped into a thread to argue with me the other day that I was making excuses for the Bills v Cincinnati by talking about injuries. Unfortunately for him my post was nothing to do with the Bills, or the Bengals for that matter, it was about the reason the Rams went from SB Champs to chumps... which was largely injury related. Just shows they are so keen to jump in with the "yea but" that they often haven't really engaged with the debate. 

 

The board in my 10 years of membership tends to swing different ways. We are definitely in a "negative" phase at the moment with some repeat offenders. Go back 3 or 4 years and we had a "homer" phase. Neither are great. People should be able to actually engage with the discussion without just regurgitating the narrative. In fairness to @PBF81 - he did that with me for the most part a few weeks ago. I don't think his position moved at all, but the majority of his posts in a back and forth did at least try and engage with the debate. But I think he thinks I am a massive homer. Which anyone who has been around here for the decade that I have been will know is far from the truth. 

[BADOLBILZ]

56 minutes ago, Dopey said:

From 20 year losers to regular division winners and SB contenders. 
Here ya go newcam2012, PBF81 and the like, flame away. I noticed a trend a while ago here. Any attempt at a positive thread MUST be shot down by negative Nancies. Hey Einstein, are the Bengals still better than the Bills? Thing is we’ve read your negative crap already. We know! We get it! You guys make this board a ***** place IMO. Go get laid or something. Life is awesome and it sucks that people like me stay away from this place to come  back a few weeks later and the same vocal group is writing the same 💩 as weeks ago. From what I read, Allen is the only good thing we have going for us. Last thought: you guys suck and it feels like you’re taking this site with you. Enjoy. 

 

 

You have the same anxiety about the Bills as the people that you are criticizing........probably a lot more, actually.  You are just doing the wrong thing by taking it out on fellow fans who have nothing to do with the outcomes on the field.     If you were at all well adjusted you would understand this.    You clearly are not.   If everything is awesome.........what is there to discuss?      You come here because you want to be told everything is going to be alright and you aren't going to get that on a message board.   

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Dopey said:

From 20 year losers to regular division winners and SB contenders. 
Here ya go newcam2012, PBF81 and the like, flame away. I noticed a trend a while ago here. Any attempt at a positive thread MUST be shot down by negative Nancies. Hey Einstein, are the Bengals still better than the Bills? Thing is we’ve read your negative crap already. We know! We get it! You guys make this board a ***** place IMO. Go get laid or something. Life is awesome and it sucks that people like me stay away from this place to come  back a few weeks later and the same vocal group is writing the same 💩 as weeks ago. From what I read, Allen is the only good thing we have going for us. Last thought: you guys suck and it feels like you’re taking this site with you. Enjoy. 

 

To the bolded there is a bit of an Allen cult. At least that is understandable though. He is our best player, he is out biggest asset, and he is ultimately the single biggest reason we are a potential Superbowl team. But there is a bit of a blame everything and everyone else and defend Josh at all costs. But like I say, not something I am going to spend a lot of time calling out because it is understandable. Josh is the most important guy (even though he should not be above criticism.)

 

But remember we had a similar cultish devotion on these boards to Tyrod Taylor now that really was insane. The Allen cult makes sense. 

3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

You have the same anxiety about the Bills as the people that you are criticizing........probably a lot more, actually.  You are just doing the wrong thing by taking it out on fellow fans who have nothing to do with the outcomes on the field.     If you were at all well adjusted you would understand this.    You clearly are not.   If everything is awesome.........what is there to discuss?      You come here because you want to be told everything is going to be alright and you aren't going to get that on a message board.   

 

Equally Dopey making this post is just going to incite the people he doesn't want to hear from to respond dozens of times telling him why he is wrong by repeating the same arguments made multiple times already this offseason.... so tactically as a way to resolve the frustration not sure it was the move to make  

[Dr. K]

1 hour ago, Dopey said:

From 20 year losers to regular division winners and SB contenders. 
Here ya go newcam2012, PBF81 and the like, flame away. I noticed a trend a while ago here. Any attempt at a positive thread MUST be shot down by negative Nancies. Hey Einstein, are the Bengals still better than the Bills? Thing is we’ve read your negative crap already. We know! We get it! You guys make this board a ***** place IMO. Go get laid or something. Life is awesome and it sucks that people like me stay away from this place to come  back a few weeks later and the same vocal group is writing the same 💩 as weeks ago. From what I read, Allen is the only good thing we have going for us. Last thought: you guys suck and it feels like you’re taking this site with you. Enjoy. 

What you're doing with this post is inviting the very people who annoy you to bash on McDermott for eight or nine pages. I'll take a pass.

[Dopey]

36 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Unfortunately a lot of you guys continuously get slapped in the face with a reality check and it clearly makes you upset. Negative nancies or whatever you want to call it, it's the real world saying hi. If the Bills are so great and McDermott is such a good coach and Allen is the best QB in history, then what do we have to show for it? How many super bowls? When all is said and done I don't think they are going to say the Bills made 1 AFC championship game so they are a great team. They will say the Bills are a joke, wide right and music city miracle and 13 seconds. Nobody outside Buffalo cares about the Bills until they win it all. That's reality

The reality is Allen isn’t the best QB. He’s really good. Kinda like the Bills, really good. Not the best. Your reality doesn’t slap me in the face and I’m not upset. I’m happy if we win a SB, not a negative Nancy if we don’t. Who are “they” and why should I care what “they “ say. The Bills are fun to watch again and I’m really enjoying this run. Sucks that negative Nancies aren’t. Your reality and mine are not the same and that’s ok. By the way, if you’re really out in the real world, it’s actually a nice place. Not everyone poo poo’s positivity. That’s the real world saying hi. 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

1 hour ago, Dopey said:

From 20 year losers to regular division winners and SB contenders. 
Here ya go newcam2012, PBF81 and the like, flame away. I noticed a trend a while ago here. Any attempt at a positive thread MUST be shot down by negative Nancies. Hey Einstein, are the Bengals still better than the Bills? Thing is we’ve read your negative crap already. We know! We get it! You guys make this board a ***** place IMO. Go get laid or something. Life is awesome and it sucks that people like me stay away from this place to come  back a few weeks later and the same vocal group is writing the same 💩 as weeks ago. From what I read, Allen is the only good thing we have going for us. Last thought: you guys suck and it feels like you’re taking this site with you. Enjoy. 

 

This is so silly. Why do you conflate someone being critical of McDermott to their overall outlook on life? There could be people who are very optimistic people that don't like McDermott as a coach or people that are very negative about life that love him as a coach. 

 

Also, this whole thing about "positive" threads...is that what a fun message board would be for you, where everyone just thinks the exact same thing as you? That sounds really boring to me. I'm really glad there's people that have different opinions. It can also challenge what I think because I choose to be open-minded and don't go into a thread or create one because I'm aiming for it to be positive or negative. But it would be flat out boring as hell if everyone just thought the same exact thing about everything.