MrEpsYtown Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: The other thing with Ngakoue is he can't (and won't) play the run. He is quite happy to just let a guy go past him. It creates questions about how much he wants it and coaches get to the point where they say "screw the sacks this guy doesn't care." At a buy very low number though he does have a skillset that without Von we don't have. My small hope is that his old college teammate and HS rival Stefon Diggs can fire him up, maybe get him to work a little harder and buy in. At some point Ngakoue needs to realize that it isn't just sacks, but at the same time, if he just gives us sacks, I'd kind of be ok with it. Edited April 17, 2023 by MrEpsYtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: So if Addison makes it to 20-21 is he worth a trade up to grab him? It seems like a run on Wr might happen around this point from the draft previews I have seen. I would NOT want to trade up for Addison- in fact, I think it would be foolish to do so…he is boarder line 1st round/2nd round 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: I would NOT want to trade up for Addison- in fact, I think it would be foolish to do so…he is boarder line 1st round/2nd round That’s fair from a prospect valuation standpoint, but I think scarcity and need come into play. If the Bills want a WR who can play on the outside and will come in ready to run a full route tree in year one, then they don’t have a lot of options. They’ll have to make the move to be sure they get him. They put themselves into this position so it’s not an excuse for doing it, but I think it’s the reality of the situation. I can see them burning some draft capital to move up from 27 for Addison and then from 59 for a MLB. Edited to add: JSN could also be the target with Addison as smoke or another option. Edited April 17, 2023 by BarleyNY 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigvinny Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Are they still interested in Poona Ford ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 18 hours ago, HappyDays said: Per the same source that told me Poyer's exact contract details before they were announced, and that Shaq Lawson would be signed for the vet minimum before that was announced, the Bills apparently really want Jordan Addison. McDermott is good friends with the Pitt head coach Pat Narduzzi. That's where Addison played before transferring to USC. We know McDermott leans on his friends in college coaching to make draft decisions (notably Dave Aranda). Connecting the dots there it would make sense. Two other non-draft rumors from the same source - the Bills have been in contact with Yannick Ngakoue and Rashaan Evans. My guess is that if they sign either of these players it would happen after the draft. Next time you get some valuable information, you should withhold the details and just PM them to me so the opposition won’t be privy to it 😉 25 minutes ago, Bigvinny said: Are they still interested in Poona Ford ? For 1.7M- I bet they are….. but not more, which essentially eliminates us for consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 50 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I would NOT want to trade up for Addison- in fact, I think it would be foolish to do so…he is boarder line 1st round/2nd round Then have fun with the same WR unit as last year. Flowers will likely be gone. Johnston will likely be gone. JSN will definitely be gone. The other guys have very little chance of playing over the the guys we have. Addison does. He does it all- except weigh a lot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: I would NOT want to trade up for Addison- in fact, I think it would be foolish to do so…he is boarder line 1st round/2nd round I agree he is objectively a borderline 1st rounder. But that still makes him a top 16 player in this draft. You can only draft guys that are in this class. I wouldn't go up big for him, but the speculation that you could maybe switch spots with the Jags and take him.... I'm here for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) Dane Brugler has a source that says the Cowboys would take Michael Mayer if he is there at 26: Edited April 17, 2023 by HappyDays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I agree he is objectively a borderline 1st rounder. But that still makes him a top 16 player in this draft. You can only draft guys that are in this class. I wouldn't go up big for him, but the speculation that you could maybe switch spots with the Jags and take him.... I'm here for that. Switching spots with Jags would probably cost us 4th just like last year (or maybe even more). Not sure I'd do that. Also, I am not sure if Beane would specifically jumped Giants, given the relationship between teams (Schoen and Daboll). Or do you guys thinks it doesn't matter at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Switching spots with Jags would probably cost us 4th just like last year (or maybe even more). Not sure I'd do that. Also, I am not sure if Beane would specifically jumped Giants, given the relationship between teams (Schoen and Daboll). Or do you guys thinks it doesn't matter at all? I think that is exactly why he WOULD do it. He understand what those guys think and what they value. I'd happily give up a 4th for Addison rather than end up staring at the board as I was in the latest version of my mock. I doubt there are many players in the 4th and below in this draft who will make any impact in the NFL.... even compared to normal standards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) IF we don't trade for Hopkins, could we be this aggressive? Trade up for Addison in the 1st Trade up for Hyatt in the 2nd (If he makes it into the late 30's) Edited April 17, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: IF we don't trade for Hopkins, could we be this aggressive? Trade up for Addison in the 1st Trade up for Hyatt in the 2nd (If he makes it into the late 30's) That seems incredibly doubtful to me. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigvinny Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 46 minutes ago, NewEra said: For 1.7M- I bet they are….. but not more, which essentially eliminates us for consideration. Until May 2nd when players signed don't count against the comp pick formula. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bigvinny said: Until May 2nd when players signed don't count against the comp pick formula. Good point- I still don’t see us paying him much more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, TOboy said: That seems incredibly doubtful to me. Wait until he adds the part where we also trade for Hopkins, Beckham and Justin Jefferson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Dane Brugler has a source that says the Cowboys would take Michael Mayer if he is there at 26: He is like Jason Witten reincarnate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dave mcbride Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Switching spots with Jags would probably cost us 4th just like last year (or maybe even more). Not sure I'd do that. Also, I am not sure if Beane would specifically jumped Giants, given the relationship between teams (Schoen and Daboll). Or do you guys thinks it doesn't matter at all? Addison is the perfect for the Daboll system, and WR is a real need for them. The Bills would have to get ahead of them, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: Will Anderson second overall to try and be their Bosa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: So the Texans are going to roll with Mills again? Inconceivable. 1 hour ago, LEBills said: Will Anderson second overall to try and be their Bosa? If so, they will be sorely disappointed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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