Nextmanup Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 27 minutes ago, Perk71 said: I'm convinced some posters here are not Bills fans. Frazier's contract expired, time to move on. Simple. Go Bills!! 21 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: If it’s so simple then why don’t they just say that? Definitely not that simple, but we aren't going to know the true story for a long time...if we ever do. The way it's been handled is weird, but I'm just happy he won't be around next year. Now, about that OC problem of ours.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Anyone believe Leslie Frazier is returning to coaching after a year off? Don’t know. Doubt Frazier knows either, at this point. A lot depends on why he’s doing it. Medical? Family? Gap year to ensure time to study and reflect? Polite way of being forced out? All of those reasons could have for/against arguments 3 hours ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Why does this organization continue to lack transparency with its fan base? why do some fans feel the organization owes them anything but football games and reporter access to ask questions? Edited March 1, 2023 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Anyone have a feeling the defensive scheme will be exactly the same..? My hope has not been captured yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I am ok moving on but Frazier deserves some respect. Over his 6 years the bills gave up the fewest yards and second fewest points in the league. The performance in big spots can be judged but he is largely under appreciated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Would Mike Pettine come back to Buffalo as our DC? I would love to see a fusion between the two schemes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said: I am ok moving on but Frazier deserves some respect. Over his 6 years the bills gave up the fewest yards and second fewest points in the league. The performance in big spots can be judged but he is largely under appreciated. True, Frazier had some good results overall. But I was harboring some of the feelings a lot of others on here had - 1. His bend but don't break base set was kind of annoying, and 2. The Playoff problems. I wonder/hope if this move might also signal that the FO is considering moving some resources to emphasis offense a little more. For instance, letting Edmunds and Poyer leave and contemplate seeing what they can get for Oliver. And instead invest in OL, WR, and maybe RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Definitely not that simple, but we aren't going to know the true story for a long time...if we ever do. The way it's been handled is weird, but I'm just happy he won't be around next year. Now, about that OC problem of ours.... Well I still get the feeling it could be just a respectful gesture by both sides as a way for parting ways..... And I'm aware what Beane said etc...but I still feel that's possibly what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: I am ok moving on but Frazier deserves some respect. Over his 6 years the bills gave up the fewest yards and second fewest points in the league. The performance in big spots can be judged but he is largely under appreciated. I think most ppl definitely has plenty of respect for him, I mean he's earned that for sure....that said while many have much respect they also feel like it's time to move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I'm obviously late to the party, as this is page 34, but next year we're really gonna see if our defensive woes were really Fraizer, or a product of something else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 3 hours ago, uticaclub said: Frazier will be McDermott’s DC in 2024, but it won't be in Buffalo. And for those saying it took Reid 20 years to win, Josh Allen doesn’t have 20 years to play. I was going to post the LOL emoji. But then I thought: hey, this kind of makes sense. McD wins (at least makes the SB) without Frazier, he doesn't need him. McD fails to get to the SB again, he's good as gone, and Leslie is part of the package deal for his next stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Meatloaf63 said: Cause being at the game tells a different story than watching on tv gotcha👍 I guess you were at the bathroom when Waddle dropped an easy 60 yard toss and run for a TD along with Hill out of character dropping balls. Tell me are you impressed that the Bills stopped a 3rd string Qb in his first playoff game? I bet you are, that tells us more than the stats you gave do. It’s really impressive that so many of you are satisfied with level of play our defense came up with against a team decimated by injuries on the road in a seriously hostile environment. Going down to the last two minutes to secure victory. You asked if I watched the game… I said I was there… it was an answer to your question. No idea why you’re being so hostile with me in particular. I’m not disputing that they *could* have lost the game. I disagree with where you’re placing the blame for the potential loss and am using evidence to support my stance. If they lost to Miami, it would not have been on the defense. Edited March 1, 2023 by JGMcD2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 12 hours ago, dma0034 said: Wonder who they'll get for DC. I'm happy, I can't stand Frazier Some coach who believes in the philosophy Sean McDermott believes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I wouldn't be surprised if he signs with another team as DC or position coach, after a short, face-saving interval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Green Lightning said: Gosh sue me. Not at will but hung 24 of their 31 points on us on offense with a rookie last string QB. After our offense kept giving the ball away and putting the D on short fields. That part. 2 hours ago, ChasBB said: Agree. I have no problem generally trying to rush with only 4, but blitzes can be very effective scattered in here and there. Not saying I want to see the team blitz all the time. Just saying let's mix things up a bit at times and situations. They do blitz. Milano, Edmunds and Johnson. Poyer sometimes. Doesn’t always work but that doesn’t mean they don’t do it. 2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: Let’s also not forget the wide open bomb that Waddle dropped on their opening series, which would’ve changed the complexion of the game. Is the Frazier’s fault or the DB ‘s who dropped coverage? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Sometimes the truth is toxic. Sometimes the “truth” is some truth with a lot of BS mixed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Frazier gives coaching a "15 yard cushion" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 This is bad. Hope Leslie Frazier is ok health wise. I truly believe Beane and McDermott were going to keep him. Let's wait and see when the truth emerges regarding Frazier's year off. I hope it's not Cancer related. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) Good. This is the classy way to go about things. Sorry for any Frazier defenders but our last 2 Postseason losses have really soured me on Frazier as a Sunday big game gameplanner. The defensive gameplan against the Bengals was absolutely criminal. McDermott or Babbich or the new guy we just brought in from Carolina all seem like good replacements. Edited March 1, 2023 by transplantbillsfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I sure hope next year at this time everybody's not sitting around griping about how much the defense sucked. It seems like a lot of Bills fans are now spoiled and feel they deserve nothing less than a super bowl win. Of course that's the goal, but getting incrementally better is a much safer approach than blowing things up. We had a very good D. Yes it didn't always look great in the playoffs but there you are playing the best offenses. Having a top 5 D consistently is nothing to sneeze at and things might have been different this year without the Hyde and Von Miller injuries, to name a couple. Things don't always get better just because you want to celebrate change. I'll hope for the best now that this is done. Wishing Frazier the best and I'm thankful for what he did for our team. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 54 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: True, Frazier had some good results overall. But I was harboring some of the feelings a lot of others on here had - 1. His bend but don't break base set was kind of annoying, and 2. The Playoff problems. I wonder/hope if this move might also signal that the FO is considering moving some resources to emphasis offense a little more. For instance, letting Edmunds and Poyer leave and contemplate seeing what they can get for Oliver. And instead invest in OL, WR, and maybe RB. The thing about the playoff problems is that we didn't have playoff problems. We had three games in the playoff problems. All three of those games were without Von Miller or any serious pass rush. Without the wave of defensive injuries it would very possibly have been an entirely different game on that side of the ball. Of course, the defense wasn't good against the Bengals but the offense was absolutely horrific. That was probably Frazier's fault too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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