Good article by Bruce Nolan re: Beane's draft capital expenditure since 2018

[Dopey]

I get the feeling some of you only scored 100 on your exams in school. Unfortunately not all of us are perfect. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

7 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

The tier 2 scrubs they've brought in to pretend they're pass catchers are only exceeded by the scrub brigade of Quessenberry,  Van Rotten & Saffold. 

It’s time.

 

Beane needs to tell McDermott the water spigot on defense is turned off.

 

Its time for some offensive investment.

 

Sorry you don’t get Edmunds, Poyer and another FA Safety. 

Sorry Sean and Leslie and new Senior Defensive Assistant, time to Coach up:

 

$100M Von

1st Round Rousseau

1st Round Oliver

2nd Round Basham

2nd Epenesa

FA DaQuan Jones

FA Tim Settle

Extended Milano

Extended 1st Round White

1st Round Elam

Extended Taron Johnson

Extended Micah Hyde
 

Get out there and find talent on Offense.

[MWK]

33 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

That's exactly why eventually Josh will get fed up with this organizational philosophy. If McB doesn't go hard on OL, WR, etc this April, I could see a slow divide begin.  At the very least the contract controlled olineman should've been acquired in 19, 20, 21.  You ask your superstar qb to do 85% of the offensive production while Abbott & Costello waste picks on defensive busts.

 And hopefully when that happens, the Pegulas will make the right choice and pick Allen over McDefense

[SCBills]

19 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

11.5% Draft Capital on the skill positions around Allen, and 8% of that is running back. 

 

3.5% on WR.

 

And you have Joe Marino and Cover 1 talking about investing more into the defensive line. 

 

Aaron on Cover 1 thinks the weapons are just fine. 

“Ok, well if you trade Ed Oliver, who are you replacing him with?”

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 minutes ago, MWK said:

 And hopefully when that happens, the Pegulas will make the right choice and pick Allen over McDefense

Amen man.

 

McDermott has two strikes, really 2.5.

 

He blew that game in Houston, that’s 0.5 a point.

 

He gained that back by getting the Bills to the AFCCG in 2020. I’m not going to fault them for not being able to beat Chiefs in Arrowhead in their first good year.

 

13 seconds is a horrific loss that goes right with Wide Right, Music City.

 

And his team came out flat as a board against Cincinnati and the defensive scheme was another pathetic prevent shell all day mixed with obvious poorly designed blitzes. 
 

Use what you’ve got and get some results. 
 

He’s no good to this team if he needs the 2000 Ravens or 1985 Bears defense to win. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

“Ok, well if you trade Ed Oliver, who are you replacing him with?”

 

Exactly.

 

In one breath him and Greg Tompsett are gloating about all this cap space the Bills can generate, and they play the stupid you’re making a hole game.

 

Mike Ginnitti from Spotrac came on and said there are linebackers available that can do 85% of what Edmunds can do in 1/2 the cost. Sam Monson said the same.

 

Why do you have these guests on if you don’t want to listen to them? 
 

Anyways, Bruce Nolan is out there now saying it’s 60/40 defense now in the draft assets and Josh was 17.9% of that alone.

 

Ed Oliver is okay, he’s a guy. No way he’s getting a second deal. If someone was willing to give you a 3rd for him, take the $10M in savings and the pick and run. 

[LABILLBACKER]

27 minutes ago, MWK said:

 And hopefully when that happens, the Pegulas will make the right choice and pick Allen over McDefense

I know Terry had to be so incredibly focused on Kim. But eventually he's going to be asking tough questions on why Sean & Brandon have completely neglected their elite qb. 

[McDeerInTheHeadlights]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Hell will freeze over before McD allows Brandon to do it all.  He will always be hovering over his shoulder for his defensive picks.

 

I totally agree that's the case. The only person who could change it would be Terry, who is the one who created the situation in the first place...

 

The only hope is that eventually McD himself realizes that it's time to revise his approach (very unlikely, and I'd totally expect him to vouch for a DB or LB in round 1 and perhaps even in round 2, if Edmunds and Poyer leave and given White's uncertain return to his pior form), or Josh put his foot down an demand it (more likely in the mid-term, but I'm not sure it's happening anytime soon).

 

Anyhow, the draft is around the corner. Here's hoping they'll prove me otherwise.

 

[schoolhouserock]

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Hell will freeze over before McD allows Brandon to do it all.  He will always be hovering over his shoulder for his defensive picks.

McDermott “hovers over” BB’s shoulder and then doesn’t play his apparently hand picked rookies?

 

It’s teamwork like anything else.

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Dopey said:

I get the feeling some of you only scored 100 on your exams in school. Unfortunately not all of us are perfect. 

If Beane took the SAT's during the 2nd round of the NFL draft that's pry the score he'd get.

[OldTimer1960]

The article doesn’t seem to take into consideration the draft picks traded to get into position to draft Allen.  It also doesn’t seem to account for the picks traded for Stephon Diggs.  

[hondo in seattle]

11 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

It’s time.

 

Beane needs to tell McDermott the water spigot on defense is turned off.

 

Its time for some offensive investment.

 

Sorry you don’t get Edmunds, Poyer and another FA Safety. 

Sorry Sean and Leslie and new Senior Defensive Assistant, time to Coach up:

 

$100M Von

1st Round Rousseau

1st Round Oliver

2nd Round Basham

2nd Epenesa

FA DaQuan Jones

FA Tim Settle

Extended Milano

Extended 1st Round White

1st Round Elam

Extended Taron Johnson

Extended Micah Hyde
 

Get out there and find talent on Offense.

 

The Bills are spending $124 million on offense versus $118 on defense.  The top two cap expenditures this year are offensive players (Allen, Diggs).  The Bills have invested in offense.  

 

What they haven't done is built a good OL.  Or found a good #2 WR.  

 

overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills

[BuffaloRebound]

The fairest criticism is the high draft investment in RB’s who are JAG’s.  Spend that 2nd rounder and two 3rd’s on O-Line or WR’s, and find serviceable RB’s later in the draft like every other team does and this offense is in way better shape.  McBeane just keeps doubling down on drafting average RB’s with high picks. 

[Nextmanup]

15 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

As I said last off-season, they don’t value the WR position nearly as much as they should and they overvalue RB… really strange strategy….specifically in a passing league and with a top 3 QB…. There was no chance they were taking a 1st round WR lasts years draft and if there is a top defensive player with a top WR prospect available at 27 I am still skeptical they’ll go WR… regardless of what they do in FA.

I will enjoy a huge sigh of relief only AFTER we have made our first selection, and it is not a defender.

 

Same for the 2nd, and 3rd! 

 

I would not put it past them to take a DT with our first pick, especially if Oliver moves on.

 

 

[wppete]

Beane needs to stop being cute and completely cut off McDermott from

the draft process… My gut feeling is McDermott meddles and pressures Beane and Co. pick players. 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

The article doesn’t seem to take into consideration the draft picks traded to get into position to draft Allen.  It also doesn’t seem to account for the picks traded for Stephon Diggs.  

 

You wouldn't need to consider the draft picks traded to get Allen, that's already baked into the value of the 7th overall pick. 

 

The Diggs trade would be one that should be accounted for though. 

[LABILLBACKER]

17 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

The fairest criticism is the high draft investment in RB’s who are JAG’s.  Spend that 2nd rounder and two 3rd’s on O-Line or WR’s, and find serviceable RB’s later in the draft like every other team does and this offense is in way better shape.  McBeane just keeps doubling down on drafting average RB’s with high picks. 

It's unfortunate and comical that he spends such high draft picks on mediocre RB's when the irony is we really don't run that much. Wouldn't it make common sense to load up on a dominant OL if I know I have an elite throwing qb? Then after that draft wrs. I'm targeting rbs late in the draft or udfa's.  Look at the production Andy got out of Pacheco.

[OldTimer1960]

46 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

You wouldn't need to consider the draft picks traded to get Allen, that's already baked into the value of the 7th overall pick. 

 

The Diggs trade would be one that should be accounted for though. 

I guess that is right, but I think it would be interesting to see if they had to trade more than the value of that 7th pick just to get there.  Probably not egregiously different, but I would not be at all surprised if they had to “overpay” in that trade.

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

I will enjoy a huge sigh of relief only AFTER we have made our first selection, and it is not a defender.

 

Same for the 2nd, and 3rd! 

 

I would not put it past them to take a DT with our first pick, especially if Oliver moves on.

 

 

I’m not as down on Beane as many here and I do think his preference this year will be for offense, but it looks like a poor to middling draft class for WR and interior OL.  Maybe there will be an OT worth taking in the first or they could consider a TE as that class looks strong and deep.  

[hondo in seattle]

2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

The fairest criticism is the high draft investment in RB’s who are JAG’s.  Spend that 2nd rounder and two 3rd’s on O-Line or WR’s, and find serviceable RB’s later in the draft like every other team does and this offense is in way better shape.  McBeane just keeps doubling down on drafting average RB’s with high picks. 

 

Beane struck gold with Allen and deserves praise for that.  It took some clever maneuvering and propelled this team to relevance.  

 

Otherwise, it's not just the RBs who are JAGs.  Most of his draft picks are JAGs.   Not enough All-Pros and playmakers.  

[Nitro]

17 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Which weapons? A washed OJ Howard and Crowder?… Emmanuel Sanders the year before? Come on. 

The totality of his tenure.  The article covers several years of drafting.  Cody Ford was mentioned. You can not focus just on last year.  Overall they draft well. Their success on the field means drafting later and the chance of failure goes up.  Also each year the talent level available varies.  I am a realist and not an emotional fan.