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Lamar Jackson wants guarantees that exceed Watson contract


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1 hour ago, Mango said:


Who gets signed first, Carson Wentz or Lamar Jackson? 

There’s multiple issues now. Lamar has to find the solution to this problem:

 

How do I accept an offer to be the 8th or 9th highest paid QB without looking like a total idiot?

 

I don’t think he can. He so dug in and the embarrassment would be out of this world. I suspect he’s too embarrassed and shamed to even face the Ravens at this point.

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3 minutes ago, Governor said:

There’s multiple issues now. Lamar has to find the solution to this problem:

 

How do I accept an offer to be the 8th or 9th highest paid QB without looking like a total idiot?

 

I don’t think he can. He so far dug in and the embarrassment would be out of this world.

 

 I think he'll eventually accept less, but only if it comes from someone other than the Ravens. He'll try and pass it off as it wasn't about the money it was about respect. Media talking heads will rejoice saying he showed great courage in his victory against the NFL.

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Could the Ravens do a 1 day/ $1 contract to get around that? Seems like there are some creative solutions here.  Its so weird to handcuff a team to their own detriment, when the tag was a measure that was supposed to give teams leverage.

 

If Balt, Team X, and Lamar are all on the same page about a deal, why would the NFL split hairs and block it? Weird

Only 95 cents guaranteed.

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1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

 

Sure they will just not above the table.  Teflon™ Br*dy got money under table including his avocado supplements.

Lamar is too dumb and spiteful for that. Say 2 seasons go well, but year 3 sucks. Lamar hates BB, BB equally hates a low iq ball player. Lamars knees are tore up, and his only offer is $6m/yr as a backup in NE now, or somewhere else......

 

Anybody think hes gunna stay quiet about their dirty lil secret? Lamar would be tweeting that from his locker before he can clear it out.  and the way NE disposes of their used up players, is literally as cold as taking out the trash.  Lamars not the guy to be making devil pacts with, noooooope

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2 hours ago, Governor said:

Most people keep acting like he’ll eventually get what he wants and I’m not sure why.

 

I heard Mike Florio and Chris Simms make this point. The people in the media egging him on are much worse than the people telling him to stop being stupid. It's like a bystander at a high roller table cheering on as some idiot makes big stupid bet after big stupid bet. It's fun watching someone bet it all on red when it isn't your money to lose. When the high roller inevitably loses and ends up broke, the bystander will just sheepishly walk on over to the next table.

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25 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I heard Mike Florio and Chris Simms make this point. The people in the media egging him on are much worse than the people telling him to stop being stupid. It's like a bystander at a high roller table cheering on as some idiot makes big stupid bet after big stupid bet. It's fun watching someone bet it all on red when it isn't your money to lose. When the high roller inevitably loses and ends up broke, the bystander will just sheepishly walk on over to the next table.

That's a good point.  I wonder who he surrounds himself with as there seems nobody in his inner circle that will give him some tough love and tell him why he needs an agent now more than ever.  Growing up without a father is tough as mine would've hit me beside the head and say hire a darn agent you idiot.

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2 hours ago, BuffaloFan68 said:

Let Lamar sit - then he’ll learn. It’s not his league.  If he had won a SB & played every game of a season - then he might make demands, but he is nowhere close.  Bye-bye Greedy 


clown take. What has Watson ever won? Cousins? But Lamar should just shut up and take what he’s offered right? 

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8 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


clown take. What has Watson ever won? Cousins? But Lamar should just shut up and take what he’s offered right? 

This. No reason he shouldn't be at or very the top of the QB salary heap. NFL economics101

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5 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

I don’t think that reported text was meek mills, I believe this is from “Meloveulongtime Mills”. 
 

Kraft had his contacts confused 

 

 

 

Wait...so some random guy with the handle “Meloveulongtime Mills” has Kraft's cell number? Wow.

 

EDIT: oh, wait...this was a joke...I get it now [I'm a little slow].

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What I do is offer him a 5 year $250 million dollar contract with $150 mil guaranteed or 5 year $150 mil and all is guaranteed. That way he gets the option of all guaranteed or some. I no this won't happen and he would not accept the second option, but his demands and reasons are not realistic based on injuries the last 2 seasons. Also I get tired of former players stating that Patrick and Josh ruined it for the others. I say that Minnesota with Cousins and the Browns with Watson are who cause this problem. 

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6 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

This. No reason he shouldn't be at or very the top of the QB salary heap. NFL economics101

 

He should.  But just not in a fully guaranteed contract.

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12 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Yeah like BB is going to give that guy a 250+mil fully guaranteed contract.  They paid Brady peanuts.

lol so true! But let’s be honest it’s Kraft who would say No it’s real money and won’t agree to that.  Add to it LamR injury history and any team be dumb give up 2 1st and all that guarantee money for someone that’s game is based mostly on his legs.

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Usually a player (of Lamar Jackson's caliber) can look towards the Top 5 contracts at his position as the rough parameters of a deal.  But the NFL is in a very unique place when it comes to Quarterback contracts right now.  Especially when it comes to the guaranteed money.

  • Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen would normally be a standard benchmark, mostly due to age and talent.  But both of them signed extremely team-friendly deals without much long-term money guaranteed.  
  • Deshaun Watson is considered an outlier, because he DID get a fully guaranteed contract despite off-field concerns.  Teams are trying to make a point not to make his deal the norm.
  • Russell Wilson signed the big contract and then totally busted, which acts as a warning against giving out a fully guaranteed contract.

Then you have Jackson himself, who has been dealing with injuries the last two seasons.  His style of play is a long-term concern.  Whether he can succeed outside Greg Roman's unique offensive scheme is a concern.  It's totally understandable why teams are reluctant to give him what he wants.

 

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The Lamar stuff is so confusing. He bet on himself and lost and then doubled down by not getting an Agent so the restricted free agency period essentially is a bust. So now his best offer is going to be the offer sitting on the table that the Ravens are giving him. Just crazy stuff 

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Pretty straight forward. His $$$ "demands" are shooting himself in the foot. He could and should be sitting on a $20M Signing Bonus, and ~$150 guaranteed contract already, enjoying his offseason in South Florida.

 

But I am surprised the Atlanta Falcons haven't jumped on this yet. They have the cash, picks, and motivation.

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No surprise and what most of us thought from the beginning.  The question is, what do the owners do to prevent a Browns (and to a lesser extent Vikings) type panic move in the future?

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2 minutes ago, Doc said:

No surprise and what most of us thought from the beginning.  The question is, what do the owners do to prevent a Browns (and to a lesser extent Vikings) type panic move in the future?

 

I dont think they should. If one team wants to make a huge mistake, let them. It'll just be up to the other teams to be smarter and not do the same thing. If players see the one bad move as a precedent, that's on them.

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