Antonio Williams Signs with CFL Club

[ChevyVanMiller]

 

“This addition makes us even more excited for what should be an intriguing camp competition in the backfield.” #BCLions sign free agent @A_B_Williams26 The veteran joins a quartet of experienced backs that will battle in Kamloops.
 

Maybe the Bills weren’t off base when they released him after all.
 

 

[GolfandBills]

But he was the key to our running game that never was 

[KingBoots8]

There must be some mistake - I heard he was a star who had been wasted on our depth chart…

[John from Riverside]

I still say that he is a damn good running back you will see him back up in the NFL

[Chandler#81]

I heard it’s cold in Canada..

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Larger playing field in CFL = More 'SPACE' for RBs to get into. 😁

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Gailey's not doing consulting gigs, is he? 🤔

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I still say that he is a damn good running back you will see him back up in the NFL

He has 12 career carries.  63 yards.  

[Royale with Cheese]

19 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

He has 12 career carries.  63 yards.  

A little more than 5 ypc…that’s Hall of Fame level.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

A little more than 5 ypc…that’s Hall of Fame level.

A backfield with Williams, with a WR named Robert Foster...the 'stuff dreams are made of'...😁

[John from Riverside]

24 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

He has 12 career carries.  63 yards.  

Most of his work has been done and preseason. I still think there’s talent there.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

Most of his work has been done and preseason. I still think there’s talent there.

Not before the Bills get Christian Wade back! 😠

[John from Riverside]

7 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Not before the Bills get Christian Wade back! 😠

I mean to me, it really does show you that there’s plenty of running backs to go around

 

You know what there’s not a lot of to go around quality offense of lineman just take a couple high in this next draft, please

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

26 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I mean to me, it really does show you that there’s plenty of running backs to go around

 

You know what there’s not a lot of to go around quality offense of lineman just take a couple high in this next draft, please

 

A point I have noticed raised in the forums is that OLs rarely enter the NFL ready for play.  The contention is that it takes a year or two of playing experience to be successful in the professional game, as opposed to the collegiate game.  An exception to this seems to be OLs coming out of programs in the midwest.  Iowa seems to stick in my mind. 🤔

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

The big questions is will he and Duke Williams enter the HOF in the same class?

[TheyCallMeAndy]

12 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

 

“This addition makes us even more excited for what should be an intriguing camp competition in the backfield.” #BCLions sign free agent @A_B_Williams26 The veteran joins a quartet of experienced backs that will battle in Kamloops.
 

Maybe the Bills weren’t off base when they released him after all.
 

 

So maybe the Bills actually can evaluate talent better than the fans? Weird? 

[T master]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

He has 12 career carries.  63 yards.  

 

When your only used 12 times in 2 years how can you prove if your any good if your looking for a comparison then we need to get rid of Hines then he also sucks he had -3 yards this season so why keep him around .

 

Plus this year they kept Moss & let Blackshear go just maybe if they would actually use some of these backs in a game setting they may find a good one instead of holding on to one being Moss because he was a draft pick .

 

This has been a recurring theme with the Bills Dabol took 2 Players with him being Hodgins & Berida and actually used them both & took his team to the play offs and the Bills let them both warm the bench & again let Moss pretty much a none factor but 1 play per game be active every week .

 

Then they did the same with Mckenzie resigned him because he can run fast &had just 1 really good game sometimes i just wish they would give others a real chance in games to see what they can produce while in a real game setting .

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

Most of his work has been done and preseason. I still think there’s talent there.

 

Preseason NFL is CFL.  Maybe the Bills should bring back Nate Peterman?  He won the preseason...

 

10 minutes ago, T master said:

 

When your only used 12 times in 2 years how can you prove if your any good if your looking for a comparison then we need to get rid of Hines then he also sucks he had -3 yards this season so why keep him around .

 

Plus this year they kept Moss & let Blackshear go just maybe if they would actually use some of these backs in a game setting they may find a good one instead of holding on to one being Moss because he was a draft pick .

 

This has been a recurring theme with the Bills Dabol took 2 Players with him being Hodgins & Berida and actually used them both & took his team to the play offs and the Bills let them both warm the bench & again let Moss pretty much a none factor but 1 play per game be active every week .

 

Then they did the same with Mckenzie resigned him because he can run fast &had just 1 really good game sometimes i just wish they would give others a real chance in games to see what they can produce while in a real game setting .

 

How many carries did the Giants give Williams?  The question answers itself. 

 

Obviously Hines is a ST talent.  Williams wasn't on ST.  Simple.

[Bangarang]

Williams and Hodgins would’ve made our offense unstoppable. 

[BuffaloMatt]

Can't wait for the draft . . . then mini camp. . .then OTAs. . . then Pre-season . . . . .   

[Yawning Frog]

[Solomon Grundy]

On 2/14/2023 at 9:09 PM, ChevyVanMiller said:

 

“This addition makes us even more excited for what should be an intriguing camp competition in the backfield.” #BCLions sign free agent @A_B_Williams26 The veteran joins a quartet of experienced backs that will battle in Kamloops.
 

Maybe the Bills weren’t off base when they released him after all.
 

 

But you can find a good, capable RB in the later rounds... 😎

14 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

A little more than 5 ypc…that’s Hall of Fame level.

Similar to Motor's career average 😎

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

On 2/15/2023 at 9:23 AM, T master said:

 

When your only used 12 times in 2 years how can you prove if your any good if your looking for a comparison then we need to get rid of Hines then he also sucks he had -3 yards this season so why keep him around .

 

Plus this year they kept Moss & let Blackshear go just maybe if they would actually use some of these backs in a game setting they may find a good one instead of holding on to one being Moss because he was a draft pick .

 

This has been a recurring theme with the Bills Dabol took 2 Players with him being Hodgins & Berida and actually used them both & took his team to the play offs and the Bills let them both warm the bench & again let Moss pretty much a none factor but 1 play per game be active every week .

 

Then they did the same with Mckenzie resigned him because he can run fast &had just 1 really good game sometimes i just wish they would give others a real chance in games to see what they can produce while in a real game setting .

 

It's easier for the Giants to grab players like Berida as they didn't have a very talented roster, certainly back in Sept, no one expected them to make the playoffs.  The Bills are a pretty deep team so harder to find a spot for guys like this.  It's like the early year the Bills made the playoffs and Duke Williams had like 9 catches.  He probably hasn't had that many since career wise

 

Not very easy to give fringe players chances as during pre season no other teams are playing "real game settings" either.  So the only way would be to cut guys in September to take a chance on someone like Williams.  Very likely more often they'd be wrong by doing that than right.

[T master]

On 2/17/2023 at 11:07 AM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

It's easier for the Giants to grab players like Berida as they didn't have a very talented roster, certainly back in Sept, no one expected them to make the playoffs.  The Bills are a pretty deep team so harder to find a spot for guys like this.  It's like the early year the Bills made the playoffs and Duke Williams had like 9 catches.  He probably hasn't had that many since career wise

 

Not very easy to give fringe players chances as during pre season no other teams are playing "real game settings" either.  So the only way would be to cut guys in September to take a chance on someone like Williams.  Very likely more often they'd be wrong by doing that than right.

 

Maybe but to get a veteran that costs more against the cap & that you know his ceiling to leave inactive on game day and then put a rookie which may have a higher ceiling to leave on the practice squad only to be taken by another team then produce doesn't seem to be possibly the best direction to go .

 

Then if that rookie produces in the pre season as much as the veteran & you are building of the future doesn't seem as a good way to do things .

 

For instance the Bills signed Mckenzie to a 2 year extension because of 1 really good game & the Giants pilfered Hodgins a player on the PS that they drafted & invested 3 years in & didn't truly give him a realistic shot & now we have seen what he did for the Giants & if given the chance could have developed chemistry with Josh and been here on a extension for longer & less money makes more sense than what was done . 

 

 

[MJS]

On 2/15/2023 at 8:23 AM, T master said:

 

When your only used 12 times in 2 years how can you prove if your any good if your looking for a comparison then we need to get rid of Hines then he also sucks he had -3 yards this season so why keep him around .

 

Plus this year they kept Moss & let Blackshear go just maybe if they would actually use some of these backs in a game setting they may find a good one instead of holding on to one being Moss because he was a draft pick .

 

This has been a recurring theme with the Bills Dabol took 2 Players with him being Hodgins & Berida and actually used them both & took his team to the play offs and the Bills let them both warm the bench & again let Moss pretty much a none factor but 1 play per game be active every week .

 

Then they did the same with Mckenzie resigned him because he can run fast &had just 1 really good game sometimes i just wish they would give others a real chance in games to see what they can produce while in a real game setting .

The coaches know what they can do. They see them every day in practice. It's only the fans who don't know what they can do.

[T master]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

The coaches know what they can do. They see them every day in practice. It's only the fans who don't know what they can do.

 

Moss showed pretty much what he was worth 1 good run per game but hey lets keep him around instead of a guy that produced in pre season like Blackshear or like the Bills did in keeping Berieda inactive or pay Mckenzie good money while keeping Hodgins in active only to go to another team to produce more than the one you pay ??? 

 

Just saying all that was invested in Hodgins & that was known about Mckenzie both in there own way were loses . What if Hodgins was kept instead of Mckenzie & produced like he did in NY with that added production would they have made further or been better off for the future both in cap space & production ?

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

8 hours ago, T master said:

 

Maybe but to get a veteran that costs more against the cap & that you know his ceiling to leave inactive on game day and then put a rookie which may have a higher ceiling to leave on the practice squad only to be taken by another team then produce doesn't seem to be possibly the best direction to go .

 

Then if that rookie produces in the pre season as much as the veteran & you are building of the future doesn't seem as a good way to do things .

 

For instance the Bills signed Mckenzie to a 2 year extension because of 1 really good game & the Giants pilfered Hodgins a player on the PS that they drafted & invested 3 years in & didn't truly give him a realistic shot & now we have seen what he did for the Giants & if given the chance could have developed chemistry with Josh and been here on a extension for longer & less money makes more sense than what was done . 

 

 

 

How much of that 3 years was he actually healthy for?  Likely if he was able to stay on the field they would have seen what he's capable of.  Whether that would have meant they kept him or not who knows.  And yes we saw what he did, but still in a very small window of time.   Lets see what next year brings.

 

A player that many think should be in the HOF. Steve Tasker "got away" from was it the Oilers??  It happens.

[Roundybout]

I wish he would have signed with the Ti-Cats so I could at least root for him

[Sisyphean Bills]

On 2/15/2023 at 3:16 AM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Larger playing field in CFL = More 'SPACE' for RBs to get into. 😁

*
Gailey's not doing consulting gigs, is he? 🤔

Yet, fewer downs means RBs are not as great of a factor on offense in the CFL ... unless they can catch passes.

18 NFL backs had more carries last year than the top workhorse of the CFL (equal 17 game comparison).

[T master]

14 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

How much of that 3 years was he actually healthy for?  Likely if he was able to stay on the field they would have seen what he's capable of.  Whether that would have meant they kept him or not who knows.  And yes we saw what he did, but still in a very small window of time.   Lets see what next year brings.

 

A player that many think should be in the HOF. Steve Tasker "got away" from was it the Oilers??  It happens.

 

His first year was actually a injury but the last thing was covid that kept him from playing this last year he was completely healthy & to the Bills favor i believe they were going to bring him back on the PS but Dabol knew how talented he was & took him because of that . 

 

They must have saw something in him to keep him all that time that is the thing that bugs me we all knew what Mckenzie was a part time player but Hodgins  was never really given a full time role if you would & seeing after the fact what he has done it would have been nice to add that for another go to for Josh plus he is much taller & probably a better target on those contested catches .