Niagara Dude Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 KC not only has Mahomes they have a GM that is killing it with smart trades/value free agent signings and most importantly drafting. All but 2 of the Chiefs draft picks from last year were starters this year. They have another 12 picks in this coming draft, so unless Beane starts hitting on picks then the Chiefs will be tough to beat because they will always have a solid cap situation(14 mllion in cap before making any adjustments) to add top free agents with so many players/starters playing on rookie deals. We waste a 3rd rounder on a small/average speed LB in Bernard who almost never saw the field while the Chiefs took 3 players after who all started including RB Pacheco The fact is Beane has not been very good drafting, many busts with early round picks and were falling behind because of it. 1 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Beane has done jack since 2018 in the draft, but he did trade away pick 27 ‘20 for Diggs. I doubt he would have used that on Justin Jefferson. Any thoughts? 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I have always loved Beane's swagger. But his draft history is not particularly good. Hoping he starts bucking that trend when we need it the most. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I wouldn’t necessarily say busts, but they have not drafted high impact players. KC of course has drafted some duds to go along with their hits, but they have gotten impact from various places in the draft. I give Reid a lot of credit though with the way he fixed that offensive line. They were so bad in the Super bowl vs Tampa so he replaces all five starters, including his franchise LT of ten or so years. He trades for Brown, signs Thuney and drafts Humphrey and Smith in the same draft (Nick Bolton too) and elevates Wylie to a starter. He wasn’t worried about hard feelings. He jettisoned an entire unit in one offseason and fixed it through trades, good drafting, and free agency. This is something McDermott has not been willing to do. 2020 Super Bowl: LT: Eric Fisher LG: Stefen Wisniewski Center: Austin Reiter RG: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif RT: Mitchell Schwartz next season: Brown, Thuney, Humphrey, Smith, Wylie 6 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Beane has done jack since 2018 in the draft, but he did trade away pick 27 ‘20 for Diggs. I doubt he would have used that on Justin Jefferson. Any thoughts? Not sure they would have taken Justin Jefferson. I think they wanted Tee Higgins, but saw something at his pro day that didn’t sit well with them. That in itself is unsettling as a fan, considering they need another WR this off-season. If they didn’t see something in Higgins thay told them he was worth a first round pick then should we have much hope this draft? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Not sure they would have taken Justin Jefferson. I think they wanted Tee Higgins, but saw something at his pro day that didn’t sit well with them. That in itself is unsettling as a fan, considering they need another WR this off-season. If they didn’t see something in Higgins thay told them he was worth a first round pick then should we have much hope this draft? Character doesn’t matter that much. Chiefs and Bengals have dudes who did some bad things man. Bad things. Choir boys can be found in 6th round. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Beane has done jack since 2018 in the draft, but he did trade away pick 27 ‘20 for Diggs. I doubt he would have used that on Justin Jefferson. Any thoughts? Probably Epenesa. 👀 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 “What would Veach do?” Should be Beane’s motto this off-season. Would Veach re-sign Edmunds to a massive contract? Would Veach try to trade Ed Oliver? Gabe Davis? Tre White? Im not saying he’d trade all 3, but he traded Tyreek Hill… he let Charvarious Ward walk. He won a Super Bowl the following year. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Don’t count on it. Other than Joshs draft year Beane has been below average in the draft. A lot of hot air. 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 40 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: I have always loved Beane's swagger. But his draft history is not particularly good. Hoping he starts bucking that trend when we need it the most. Agree. Did you notice lots of that swagger was gone at his last press conference? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 The Chiefs won a super bowl in a "cap reset" year. Pretty incredible 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Agree. Did you notice lots of that swagger was gone at his last press conference? I agree. He seemed like a guy that had no answers. He realized his “vision” of always adding to the defensive line caught up with him in regards to avoiding the offensive line and supporting Allen on the offense. Now he will have to go outside his comfort zone and keep McD off his back on draft day by adding to the offense that he largely neglected. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) They (Chiefs) also have Kelce … he is a difference maker Edited February 14, 2023 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Agree. Did you notice lots of that swagger was gone at his last press conference? He did seem that way. And what’s so frustrating is that he has levers to pull. He doesn’t need to re-up anyone. Even our podcasters simp for Edmunds lately. Give it a rest… Edmunds is NOT the difference between winning and losing in the playoffs. He has trade-able assets.. Oliver has value, maybe not a ton of value, but someone will give him some kind of pick to take on that cap hit for what he provides. Davis has value. Maybe legit pick value. Is he going to be re-signed next year? Do they even know. Is it a play it by ear situation?.. Move him for a pick. Allen doesn’t trust him beyond a sideline throw or deep shot. Tre White has value. Now I think the pick he could bring back probably isn’t worth it given what White could return to, now, a year removed from recovery.. but the convo should happen. Beane has levers to pull. He’s not stuck, yet he sounded stuck … if so, it’s in a prison of his own making. Edited February 14, 2023 by SCBills 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I wouldn’t necessarily say busts, but they have not drafted high impact players. KC of course has drafted some duds to go along with their hits, but they have gotten impact from various places in the draft. I give Reid a lot of credit though with the way he fixed that offensive line. They were so bad in the Super bowl vs Tampa so he replaces all five starters, including his franchise LT of ten or so years. He trades for Brown, signs Thuney and drafts Humphrey and Smith in the same draft (Nick Bolton too) and elevates Wylie to a starter. He wasn’t worried about hard feelings. He jettisoned an entire unit in one offseason and fixed it through trades, good drafting, and free agency. This is something McDermott has not been willing to do. 2020 Super Bowl: LT: Eric Fisher LG: Stefen Wisniewski Center: Austin Reiter RG: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif RT: Mitchell Schwartz next season: Brown, Thuney, Humphrey, Smith, Wylie I think you have it wrong. This is something McDermott doesn't know how to do. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Free agent sign mike mglinchey, first round wr, second round guard third round mlb to replace edmunds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I think there were multiple factors to their rookie success this year. Scouting, coaching, injuries, and lack of depth. But it is impressive that they were able to plug in their rookies and not miss a beat. Their coaches are able to adapt scheme to utilize their players. Meanwhile, our coaches keep the athletic, first round CB with ball skills on the bench because he doesn't fit the scheme. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said: KC not only has Mahomes they have a GM that is killing it with smart trades/value free agent signings and most importantly drafting. All but 2 of the Chiefs draft picks from last year were starters this year. They have another 12 picks in this coming draft, so unless Beane starts hitting on picks then the Chiefs will be tough to beat because they will always have a solid cap situation(14 mllion in cap before making any adjustments) to add top free agents with so many players/starters playing on rookie deals. We waste a 3rd rounder on a small/average speed LB in Bernard who almost never saw the field while the Chiefs took 3 players after who all started including RB Pacheco The fact is Beane has not been very good drafting, many busts with early round picks and were falling behind because of it. It all starts and ends with Andy Reid. He out prepares his opponent during the week, outcoaches his opponent on game day, and outdrafts his opponents in the draft. He also unloaded Hill for a draft haul and reloaded along with avoided paying a huge contract. Reid is killing it. Edited February 14, 2023 by DCbillsfan 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Soooo…. In Beane we no longer trust? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 and water is wet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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