PayDaBill$ Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Allen has been responsible for over 180 touchdowns. He’s every bit as good as those two. The resources those two other franchises allocate to the offense is far superior to what the bills do Offense and Defense. Look at the Eagles Bengals San Fran etc…. When using an eye test our rosters are not comparable. I also don’t think our staff’s our comparable either. I’m not sure this is a quick fix. It may get uglier before it gets better. Edited January 23, 2023 by PayDaBill$ 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 What position group improved this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, 4th&long said: So is Hyde ready to play now? can’t wait to see what debilitating injuries this squad will suffer next year. Should be fun. ☹️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, PayDaBill$ said: Offense and Defense. Look at the Eagles Bengals San Fran etc…. When using an eye test our rosters are not comparable. I also don’t think our staff’s our comparable either! All 3 of those team have offensive minded gurus too…. Look what Shanahan can do with Purdy… for god sake imagine if he had JA. Now imagine if Demeco Ryan’s had JA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said: Offense and Defense. Look at the Eagles Bengals San Fran etc…. When using an eye test our rosters are not comparable. I also don’t think our staff’s our comparable either. I’m not sure this is a quick fix. It may get uglier before it gets better. Eagles rebuilt their team in 2 years and with a rookie QB. One off season of changes and they can be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 hours ago, LifeLongBillsFan said: I thought Knox played well - WR is a huge need - the Davis drop was a killer I did as well but would like to give Josh an additional weapon at TE behind Knox. OG’s and WR is a must! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: If we are going to be realistic, the scoreline flattered us big time. And this one is also on Beane - he has not nailed a single defensive draft pick, whilst criminally neglecting the O-line. There is obviously an element of bad luck with the injuries to Von and Micah, but that should have been offset by the weakened Bengals O-line. What a depressing end to what was a promising season. Rousseau is a very good and ascending player. Could become elite next year. Oliver was very good most games and took over the Thanksgiving game. There is a reason the Bills led the NFL in stuffs and at putting teams in 3rd and 11+ and 3rd and 7+. This wasn't anyone's best game but I think this is a pretty big overreaction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 …the reality of being destroyed on offense, on defense, by HC at a HOME playoff game (in the snow). Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, ngbills said: What position group improved this year? Linebackers, Punter, Defensive Tackle, Running Backs were a push, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said: I did as well but would like to give Josh an additional weapon at TE behind Knox. OG’s and WR is a must! I wish we got Knox involved more both today and all season. For all the pressure we saw I’m not sure there was a single ball thrown to Cook either. This staff has been rumbling about pass catching WR for 5-6 years and never throws them the ball anyways. It is stuff like that that makes me have a bit of distrust in McBeane even though I want to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Rousseau is a very good and ascending player. Could become elite next year. Oliver was very good most games and took over the Thanksgiving game. There is a reason the Bills led the NFL in stuffs and at putting teams in 3rd and 11+ and 3rd and 7+. This wasn't anyone's best game but I think this is a pretty big overreaction. I am full of alcohol.and.it.is.just after lunchtime in my neck of the woods so you might be right. I just ask that you cut me.some.slack.as i am uber depressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Hindsight is 20/20, but McBeane failed to read the room last year. Team should have drafted Breece Hall instead of Elam, George Pickens instead of James Cook, and attempted to reload the offensive line. The answer to beating Mahomes (and now Burrow) wasn't "play better defense" it was keep adding weapons and lean into a MVP caliber QB. They've consistently missed on draft picks, failing to stock the cupboard with cheap, young talent under control, and now it's all come home to roost. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: All 3 of those team have offensive minded gurus too…. Look what Shanahan can do with Purdy… for god sake imagine if he had JA. Now imagine if Demeco Ryan’s had JA Since all of us are playing mock GM and blowing up this team this offseason, here is a fun thought exercise. What would you give up for Shanahan over McD? And what would it take for SF to say yes? I am guessing they would demand Allen and picks. Maybe even Diggs too? Would you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Eagles rebuilt their team in 2 years and with a rookie QB. One off season of changes and they can be fine. They haven’t done anything the Bills have to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Eagles rebuilt their team in 2 years and with a rookie QB. One off season of changes and they can be fine. That’s you assuming McD is the guy. His defense is the right scheme and Dorsey offensively can out coach or hand with guys like Siriani, Shanahan, Taylor and Reid… I don’t see it. No way, don’t care who the players are. Fact is the players are not gonna see it either. I think players know enough and see enough of this game and these personnel groups and coaches…. Buffalo is unattractive once again!!! It’s bad. Believe it or not, but this team will be no better than Division Champs. AFCE titles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WyoAZBillfan said: They haven’t done anything the Bills have to date. Exactly 3 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: That’s you assuming McD is the guy. His defense is the right scheme and Dorsey offensively can out coach or hand with guys like Siriani, Shanahan, Taylor and Reid… I don’t see it. No way, don’t care who the players are. Fact is the players are not gonna see it either. I think players know enough and see enough of this game and these personnel groups and coaches…. Buffalo is unattractive once again!!! It’s bad. Believe it or not, but this team will be no better than Division Champs. AFCE titles. I think you’re assuming that changes won’t be made having one of the wealthiest owners in football and Josh Allen still makes this a preferred destination Edited January 23, 2023 by 78thealltimegreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I am full of alcohol.and.it.is.just after lunchtime in my neck of the woods so you might be right. I just ask that you cut me.some.slack.as i am uber depressed. It’s true then. Beer flows. Men chunder. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mango said: Since all of us are playing mock GM and blowing up this team this offseason, here is a fun thought exercise. What would you give up for Shanahan over McD? And what would it take for SF to say yes? I am guessing they would demand Allen and picks. Maybe even Diggs too? Would you? Crazy talk lol…. Start with Frank Reich. He can bring a guy back like Pep Hamilton as OC. how can fans not seriously think that’s better for JA than Ken Dorsey???!! Thats just a start…. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Exactly That’s the point. Your clamoring the Eagles made changes and whelp, sit when Buffalo did in two years, right string dance time they played in championship game last. There’s no promise or guarantees in this game. Be careful what you wish for, might get aGruden to Tampa result, or a …. As took over for Marty in KC. Fixes need to happen for sure that’s clear, but you also have to consider 31 other teams are doing the same…mostly, I mean the Jets and Cleveland gonna do what they do. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Poll. Just Give me a thumbs up if... You did an eyeroll everytime Josh went with the long ball today when a checkdown receiver was wide open. We were watching on Spectrum DVR and found an egregious example of this where Cole Beasley was running around frantically wide-open on the 1st down line--and of course Josh unsuccessfully threw the bomb to the end zone. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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