Dan Darragh Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Bad Things said: A guy was crushed to death where you work, and they didn't close shop for the day? WTF? Sounds like a great place to work. He works in a law firm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakingfane Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) A Wednesday to Sunday or Thursday to Monday turnaround would be mostly the same as a Sunday to Thursday week. Otherwise, give Cinci, Buffalo, and KC a bye... Let the other four play wild card weekend but only the winning team with the best record moves ahead to the Divisional round Edited January 3, 2023 by wakingfane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Cancel it prsy damar is going to just go home at this point - sounds like a long road praying for the players as well that look of pure terrified horror on Allen’s face says enough for me. Their kids people forget 24 is too young for Hammer… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I would be very surprised if they finish the game. There just isn't enough time and they aren't adjusting the playoff schedule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Process said: I would be very surprised if they finish the game. There just isn't enough time and they aren't adjusting the playoff schedule. They have to and you can play all the way up to Wednesday. If not KC will get #1 seed for no other reason than they didn't play a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, TBBills said: They have to and you can play all the way up to Wednesday. If not KC will get #1 seed for no other reason than they didn't play a game. I know you may not view him as a kid but - a kid at 24 was lifeless in the field and MILLIONS of viewers saw this very team with looks of shock, grief and just horror on their faces. not sure you understand the gravity of this - no seeding and playoffs are legit right now. hell I wouldn’t be surprised if some players walk away after seeing something like this. I wouldn’t blame the bills if they couldn’t get over this trauma they saw and experienced 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, TBBills said: They have to and you can play all the way up to Wednesday. If not KC will get #1 seed for no other reason than they didn't play a game. Oh the horror.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, TBBills said: Do the Chiefs get #1 seed automatically if the Bills Bengals game doesn't get played? The issue seems trivial at the moment, but since we’re in this thread … I’d argue that they shouldn’t. As others have pointed out, the Chiefs lost to both teams involved here. Who knows what will actually happen and I wouldn’t be shocked. It would be another “ just give it to ‘em” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: I know you may not view him as a kid but - a kid at 24 was lifeless in the field and MILLIONS of viewers saw this very team with looks of shock, grief and just horror on their faces. not sure you understand the gravity of this - no seeding and playoffs are legit right now. hell I wouldn’t be surprised if some players walk away after seeing something like this. I wouldn’t blame the bills if they couldn’t get over this trauma they saw and experienced You cannot just stop life b.c things happen, that is the worst thing to do. You are overly emotional right now and just lashing thoughts that don't really male sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, TBBills said: You cannot just stop life b.c things happen, that is the worst thing to do. You are overly emotional right now and just lashing thoughts that don't really male sense. I understand your thought, but the game is not life.. This is unprecedented as far as I know and the NFL has a delicate situation to handle here. They have to be practical and rational but respect the emotions involved at the same time. I don’t envy those who have to make the decision 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said: We’re doomed if this is the solution. How are we doomed again? It's just a game. Not trying to change the subject, but I have to mention this: Why did Roger Goodell extend the NFL season to 17 games? He had fears years ago that someone was going to get killed. Yet he extended it anyway. Edited January 3, 2023 by Buffalo Ballin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) There is no way to handle this without a team or teams getting a perceived disadvantage. Edited January 3, 2023 by Matt_In_NH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: There is no way to handle this without a team or teams getting a perceived disadvantage. Bills are #1 seed now and should stay #1 seed if they win next week. That is the best way. They Already beat KC head 2 head and Cin has no real way of getting #1 unless both the Bills and KC lose on Sunday. Edited January 3, 2023 by TBBills 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, TBBills said: Bills are #1 seed now and should stay #1 seed if they win next week. That is the best way. They Already beat KC head 2 head and Cin has no real way of getting #1 unless both the Bills and KC lose on Sunday. Yes. I agree. We should stay number one. Other teams should be fighting for number 2. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, TBBills said: They have to and you can play all the way up to Wednesday. If not KC will get #1 seed for no other reason than they didn't play a game. A Wednesday night game is probably what they'll do if we get good news with Hamlin. They'll pry push the Bills/Pats game and the Bengals/Ravens game to Monday night. During Covid the NFL was extremely aggressive to make sure all the games were played to the point where the Broncos had to start a practice squad WR at QB. I'm just guessing at this point though as it's an unprecedented situation. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, TBBills said: Bills are #1 seed now and should stay #1 seed if they win next week. That is the best way. They Already beat KC head 2 head and Cin has no real way of getting #1 unless both the Bills and KC lose on Sunday. They’re #2 seed now though, not 1 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: They’re #2 seed now though, not 1 Only #2 b.C KC played an extra game, but head 2 head record the Bills are #1 seed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, TBBills said: Bills are #1 seed now and should stay #1 seed if they win next week. That is the best way. They Already beat KC head 2 head and Cin has no real way of getting #1 unless both the Bills and KC lose on Sunday. No they are not. They go by winning percentage. 13-3 for the chiefs 12-3 for the bills. Chiefs were the one going into last night by virtue of them winning their game Sunday. Edited January 3, 2023 by Matt_In_NH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Matt_In_NH said: No they are not. They go by winning percentage. 13-3 for the chiefs 12-3 for the bills. Well than the Bills need to play the Bengals stil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 As others have said Damar is likely to remain in ICU for a number of days. I find it hard to imagine them restarting or replaying this game while that is the case. The NFL if they are smart are not thinking about short term fallout and playoff seeding here but long term fallout and the future of the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, TBBills said: Well than the Bills need to play the Bengals stil. We have to fit the game in, There's no way around it. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, TBBills said: Only #2 b.C KC played an extra game, but head 2 head record the Bills are #1 seed. Incorrect. Head to head does not matter if one team has a better winning percentage, that is used to break a tie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, TBBills said: Only #2 b.C KC played an extra game, but head 2 head record the Bills are #1 seed. I understand your reasoning but it’s not correct . go to NFL.com- they are listed as 2. That’s official per the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said: Incorrect. Head to head does not matter if one team has a better winning percentage, that is used to break a tie. Thatis why the game will be played. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, TBBills said: Well than the Bills need to play the Bengals stil. Ok and how/when do you see that happening exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 hours ago, NUT said: If the Bills players and coaches are the ones who decide they are not playing, they have to be the ones taking the L. This could possibly happen. I am hoping /praying for the best , yet sometimes in medicine that doesn’t happen. It’s still possible we wont know for days his response or prognosis. Also. 9 min doing cpr is a very long time as brain injury begins around 3 min. We have no way of knowing how long he was with poor circulation and lack of oxygen to the brain. It is still possible to save the heart but not the brain; this means he might never regain consciousness. Of course we all hope he makes a full recovery , but it is possible he might not recover at all. I can’t see how a close Bills team could be allowed to emotionally grieve and be expected to play a football game this week. That is of course the worst case scenario, but it is still sadly a possibility. Unless he shows signs of recovering , I don’t see how they play after watching their appropriate reactions tonight. If his recovery is delayed or doesn’t happen , these are young,20 something year old men ( and for Dawson it could be a second loss in a very short period). Some may need time to even evaluate if they wish to continue playing football at all. I have a hard time imagining them playing this week unless everything suddenly goes right. If the worst scenario happens and he suffers brain death, how do you ask these guys to play? I just don’t see how they recover emotionally from that visible trauma either way to want to play football in 2-3 days; seems like too much to ask. It’s just my opinion tho. I think they deserve time, they are not robots and even mcd was shaken. I would just drop it or take the L and hope they can recover to play the Pats. Going out there unfocused might be just asking for more bad things. We will know more as time passes and you can’t rush this. It was a terrible injury, his heart stopped functioning, and only time will tell how his Brain will recover. You don’t just forget watching something like that and then go out to play the game that the injury occurred in as if nothing happened. If you have lost a loved one or family member , you can understand as nothing else matters for some time. The med staffs did a phenomenal job, yet that’s not always enough. Now we just have hope until reality plays out. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, TBBills said: Well than the Bills need to play the Bengals stil. Right, but that may not happen under these circumstances. We will see what is decided but this won’t be neat and tidy. Very tough call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, TBBills said: Thatis why the game will be played. Not sure how the nfl will be able to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said: Ok and how/when do you see that happening exactly? tomorrow or Wed IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekking Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 1. Cancel the game. 2. Give both teams a win. KC loses the tie breaker versus both teams by losing a head to head against both earlier this season. It’d be very unfair to give them the advantage because of what happened here. By giving both teams a win, the last game of the season for all three teams still matter. And let’s be honest, these two teams are going to play again. 3. Give cinci home field in afc championship game if it’s between them and buffalo Edited January 3, 2023 by Trekking 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said: How are we doomed again? It's just a game. Not trying to change the subject, but I have to mention this: Why did Roger Goodell extend the NFL season to 17 games? He had fears years ago that someone was going to get killed. Yet he extended it anyway. I’m alluding to our ability to win coin flips. It’s statistically improbable to have the odds that we have had. Don’t read to much into my post, there’s no subliminal messages embedded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Ok and how/when do you see that happening exactly? Probably Wednesday or even Thursday. Either days fine and if you have to move Bills and Bengals week 18 to Monday that will work. Edited January 3, 2023 by TBBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, TBBills said: Probably Wednesday or even Thursday. Either days fine and if you have to move Bills and Bengals week 18 to Monday that will work. So the bills and bengals will play Sunday and Monday? No way that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, TBBills said: Probably Wednesday or even Thursday. Either days fine and if you have to move Bills and Bengals week 18 to Monday that will work. Without some good word on Hamlin before then, I don’t believe this will happen. I could be wrong for sure but that’s how I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Trekking said: 1. Cancel the game. 2. Give both teams a win. KC loses the tie breaker versus both teams by losing a head to head against both earlier this season. It’d be very unfair to give them the advantage because of what happened here. By giving both teams a win, the last game of the season for all three teams still matter. And let’s be honest, these two teams are going to play again. I like this idea, I'm not sure the Chiefs will though 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 They're not making this game up imo 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said: So the bills and bengals will play Sunday and Monday? No way that happens. I think he means BUF/ CIN Wed, BUF / NE Mon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I don't think it can be replayed while Damar remains in intensive care battling for his life. That is likely to be the case for at least a few days so the "reconvene and play this week" option is a non-starter IMO. The only way it gets replayed or restarted is if it is pushed beyond the New England game (and even then possibly only if the prognosis on Damar looks better). At the point the question you have to ask is whether playing when everyone else has a bye is more or less disadvantageous to the two teams than the prospect of having to go to Kansas City in the post season.... and given the Bengals won there last year and the Bills were 13 seconds from doing the same my guess is both teams would say that giving every other team a bye hurts more than going to Arrowhead. Just my reading of where we are at. If the very worst case were to happen before this Sunday I think there are even bigger questions about what the league does with week 18 let alone this game. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Trekking said: 1. Cancel the game. 2. Give both teams a win. KC loses the tie breaker versus both teams by losing a head to head against both earlier this season. It’d be very unfair to give them the advantage because of what happened here. By giving both teams a win, the last game of the season for all three teams still matter. And let’s be honest, these two teams are going to play again. I think this is the solution if no one wants to do a coin flip. The reality and logistics of trying to make up the Buffalo vs. Cincinnati is a nightmare. It's best to avoid it and move on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: I think he means BUF/ CIN Wed, BUF / NE Mon thats what I'm thinking, two days to regroup. Both teams were a bit traumatized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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