BillyBilliams Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, PetermansRedemption said: How about a double forfeit; with both teams losing. I’ve seen the forfeit scenario thrown around where you punish the forfeiting team, so why isn’t a scenario where you reward them equally as plausible? If you are going to do anything to either of these teams, impact them positively, not negatively. Why don't you double win them, instead of double forfeiting? Give them both a win, yes, Chiefs fans won't be happy, and Ravens fans won't be happy, but it is what it is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, boyst said: I'm saying if the game isn't played. Which I don't expect it to be. Even if the game isn't played, if we win next week and KC loses we have a better win % and are the #1 seed. Recheck your math (or the playoff machine, which for me is showing in that scenario we are #1.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Nineforty said: I bet the majority would vote to play. just guessing. but I agree it should be up to them. They would have to play today or Wednesday the latest. Would the NFL be willing to postpone Bills and Bengals week 18 games to Monday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, dma0034 said: It's against the CBA... you can't create a competitive advantage. Too late. That ship sailed as soon as they decided to postpone the game last night. There is literally no solution at this point that doesn't create a competitive advantage for somebody. Right now, the league should be thinking about how to minimize the damage. There is a very high likelihood that they'll determine that the least-bad outcome is to give the Bills a forfeit. That will suck as a fan, but it will just be Bills fans who are put out by that decision and most of us will be okay with it. Fans of CIN, KC, BAL, NE, MIA, and JAX are all fine with that approach. It's a better all-around solution than trying to squeeze in a makeup game in the middle of the week, or rescheduling the playoffs, or stuff like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, UKBillFan said: Weren’t the Bengals 22-0 up against the Pats last week, yet were a Stevenson fumble away from losing the game come the end of the fourth quarter? And look at Colts-Vikings. How anyone can say we were bound to lose down 7-3 in the first quarter beats me. Hold the Bengals to a field goal there… march back down and score a TD… 10-10 on two possessions each. Cincy got ball first. We were struggling on defense, but our offense moved the ball with ease too. If Beas makes that catch, it’s a tie game when postponed. Whatever though… You can’t hand the Bengals a win 1/8 of the way through the game… unless they mandate the game must be played this week and Buff forfeits. I just don’t think the Bills care about a win at this point, nor should they. The NFL has a tough decision ahead… and many people will be upset by it… we will see true colors of fans of all teams, despite these same people claiming they only care about Damar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, BillyBilliams said: Why don't you double win them, instead of double forfeiting? Give them both a win, yes, Chiefs fans won't be happy, and Ravens fans won't be happy, but it is what it is. This is what I meant to post. Forfeit with both teams getting the victory. Just edited my original post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, BillsFanSD said: Too late. That ship sailed as soon as they decided to postpone the game last night. There is literally no solution at this point that doesn't create a competitive advantage for somebody. Right now, the league should be thinking about how to minimize the damage. There is a very high likelihood that they'll determine that the least-bad outcome is to give the Bills a forfeit. That will suck as a fan, but it will just be Bills fans who are put out by that decision and most of us will be okay with it. Fans of CIN, KC, BAL, NE, MIA, and JAX are all fine with that approach. It's a better all-around solution than trying to squeeze in a makeup game in the middle of the week, or rescheduling the playoffs, or stuff like that. I'm not so sure I think that the NFL wants the PR blowback that would come with forcing the Bills to forfeit a game because one of their players nearly died on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, DapperCam said: That would make the Dolphins and Steelers pissed. Pats win and they are in. Uh, who the hell cares? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: How about a double forfeit; with both teams winning. I’ve seen the forfeit scenario thrown around where you punish the forfeiting team, so why isn’t a scenario where you reward them equally as plausible? If you are going to do anything to either of these teams, impact them positively, not negatively. Because Chiefs Nation will go ballistic. Not that I care about that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFanSD said: Too late. That ship sailed as soon as they decided to postpone the game last night. There is literally no solution at this point that doesn't create a competitive advantage for somebody. Right now, the league should be thinking about how to minimize the damage. There is a very high likelihood that they'll determine that the least-bad outcome is to give the Bills a forfeit. That will suck as a fan, but it will just be Bills fans who are put out by that decision and most of us will be okay with it. Fans of CIN, KC, BAL, NE, MIA, and JAX are all fine with that approach. It's a better all-around solution than trying to squeeze in a makeup game in the middle of the week, or rescheduling the playoffs, or stuff like that. Again, if this happens, why wouldn’t the Bills turn around and say “then we forfeit against NE”. Who cares if you get the 2 or 3 seed, take the extra week or rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, TheWei44 said: First, prayers for Damar, his family and friends, and everyone else impacted by the horrific game last night. So awful! Re this thread, are teams allowed to unilaterally forfeit multiple games? I could see the Bills contemplating doing so, but is it against the rules? The NFL sure wouldn’t like it, but I’m not sure what the official rules are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFanSD said: Too late. That ship sailed as soon as they decided to postpone the game last night. There is literally no solution at this point that doesn't create a competitive advantage for somebody. Right now, the league should be thinking about how to minimize the damage. There is a very high likelihood that they'll determine that the least-bad outcome is to give the Bills a forfeit. That will suck as a fan, but it will just be Bills fans who are put out by that decision and most of us will be okay with it. Fans of CIN, KC, BAL, NE, MIA, and JAX are all fine with that approach. It's a better all-around solution than trying to squeeze in a makeup game in the middle of the week, or rescheduling the playoffs, or stuff like that. A. Not Miami B. How about Vegas? Gamblers? Fantasy Football Championships? This is millions, perhaps a billion, between those things. This game is going to get scheduled to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: Even if the game isn't played, if we win next week and KC loses we have a better win % and are the #1 seed. Recheck your math (or the playoff machine, which for me is showing in that scenario we are #1.) If we go off win % vs winning games which would have to change the structure of the playoffs, this puts Miami in and nE out. But you're right if done by % Also what's interesting is they blacked out the MNF game last night. Ominous. Edited January 3, 2023 by boyst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: Because Chiefs Nation will go ballistic. Not that I care about that.. If another team’s fanbase takes issue with both of the teams that experienced what Cincinnati and Buffalo experienced on Monday , getting a win, then screw that teams fan base completely. Edited January 3, 2023 by MiltonWaddams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: If its mutual why not call it a tie and how does that change seeding? The Ravens won’t have a chance of winning the division; they would if we beat the Bengals. It also means the Chiefs hold the number one spot. If the Bills had beaten the Bengals, they would be heading he conference going into the game against the Pats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Logic said: I'm not so sure I think that the NFL wants the PR blowback that would come with forcing the Bills to forfeit a game because one of their players nearly died on the field. I don't think the Bills organization will object to this decision. Everything I've seen from the Pegulas, Beane, and McDermott tells me that they are mature adults who will bite the bullet on this because it's in the best interests of the league collectively. Obviously I'd also be fine with giving both teams wins or going on winning percentages too. I'm just pushing back on the argument that this game "has" to be made up. It doesn't, and that's not even a good option. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 59 minutes ago, DC Greg said: FilthyBeast got a new account! Been around here longer than you have, big guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Process said: Uh, who the hell cares? The league will. They want fair play for all teams, or they should. This isn't the WWE where "wins" and "losses" are scripted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, bobobonators said: Again just playing devil‘S advocate here but why should the Bills forfeit the game or take the loss? Both teams decided to go to the locker room. Has anyone asked the Bengals if they want to play on Wed, risk losing, and then play the Ravens 4 days later with the division on the line? What if both teams mutually decide we aren’t playing this game this week. Period. That's a reasonable position also. If we're forgetting what happened and are strictly talking about what would be better for both teams - a double forfeit might be the best outcome. I don't like the idea of packing games into a tight window this close to the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Cancel the game and give them both a tie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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