BillsFanNC Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) It's probably going to be a long day of this. So to keep it out of the main ED thread.... Who is surprised, btw? Edited November 11, 2022 by BillsFanNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Are those Dominion machines as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Must be because Masters was going to win… I mean, Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Are those Dominion machines as well? The machines Trump's zombies got into (illegally) in Georgia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Smart move by the Dems. Just make the machines not work and hope voters decide it's too much hassle and turn away. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFanNC Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 The GOP said they learned their lesson and have an army of lawyers ready to combat these types of things in 2022. This could be the first test of that today. What is going on in AZ could be completely innocent. Nobody knows right now. The problem is that's happening in Maricopa county...... again. Is anyone prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt? They certainly haven't earned it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Nothing to see here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 20% of machines not tabulating in Maricopa County is an absolute joke. “Threat to Democracy” ?…. That threat is the justifiable suspicions Americans are starting have of our elections due to issues like this and the absurd notion it takes days/weeks to count ballots. Im starting to hear this from a lot of normie, non-MAGA folks … myself included. Trump lost, he was a clownshow post-election…. That was 2020… But now I’m starting to believe we have serious election integrity issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 20 minutes ago, BillStime said: Nothing to see here: The DOJ has no right to oversee elections. 12 minutes ago, SCBills said: 20% of machines not tabulating in Maricopa County is an absolute joke. “Threat to Democracy” ?…. That threat is the justifiable suspicions Americans are starting have of our elections due to issues like this and the absurd notion it takes days/weeks to count ballots. Im starting to hear this from a lot of normie, non-MAGA folks … myself included. Trump lost, he was a clownshow post-election…. That was 2020… But now I’m starting to believe we have serious election integrity issues. Isn’t it strange that the same corrupt urban centers that stopped counting in the middle of the night when trump was leading are having issues again? What a coincidence! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 People need to chill. It’s mid-morning MST. Many, many hours to get problems fixed and ballots submitted and counted. A glitch is not a conspiracy. That goes for both sides. Every election we have those “long lines, people unable to vote” stories, and usually from the Democratic side. And by the time the polls close it’s all fine. Have you seen some of our election workers in a place like Anthem (read: retirement community) AZ? Do you really think they’re all tech wizards? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: People need to chill. It’s mid-morning MST. Many, many hours to get problems fixed and ballots submitted and counted. A glitch is not a conspiracy. That goes for both sides. Every election we have those “long lines, people unable to vote” stories, and usually from the Democratic side. And by the time the polls close it’s all fine. Have you seen some of our election workers in a place like Anthem (read: retirement community) AZ? Do you really think they’re all tech wizards? Its “normal” to have to wait days/weeks for election results. It’s “normal” to have 20% of machines not working on Election Day. All normal guys, chill out … 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-georgia-voters-have-to-wait-in-line-for-hours-too-few-polling-pl https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/smartphone-data-show-voters-in-black-neighborhoods-wait-longer1/ all part of the new wave of “setting up your election challenge long before we even know the results” It was overblown then, it’s way overblown now. Plus: the best thing that ever happened to Anthem retirement community. Combines their two favorite activities: complaining and standing in unnecessary lines (ever heard of early voting you people with absolutely nothing else to do with your time other than bothering doctors offices and scheduling pickle ball courts?) Edited November 8, 2022 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: People need to chill. It’s mid-morning MST. Many, many hours to get problems fixed and ballots submitted and counted. A glitch is not a conspiracy. That goes for both sides. Every election we have those “long lines, people unable to vote” stories, and usually from the Democratic side. And by the time the polls close it’s all fine. Have you seen some of our election workers in a place like Anthem (read: retirement community) AZ? Do you really think they’re all tech wizards? democracy is AT STAKE HERE, @The Frankish Reich!!!!!!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 Waiting in line for a long time is different than being asked to surrender your ballot so it can be submitted and counted later by....who knows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Waiting in line for a long time is different than being asked to surrender your ballot so it can be submitted and counted later by....who knows? How can 1/5 of the voting machines not be working in a county where 4/5 of election workers are 80 years old? Beats me. In the early internet days there was supposedly a code word for this: PEBCAK “Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard.” Yesterday’s PEBKAC is today’s Arizona/Florida poll worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Embarrassing how bad the voting process is in 2022. it’s not conspiracy and collusion as much as utter and complete incompetence. American idol can tabulate millions of fan votes real time but the collective governments across the country are completely inept at doing so in a timely manner every couple years…. 🤦♂️ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Embarrassing how bad the voting process is in 2022. it’s not conspiracy and collusion as much as utter and complete incompetence. American idol can tabulate millions of fan votes real time but the collective governments across the country are completely inept at doing so in a timely manner every couple years…. 🤦♂️ Now THIS is a good point. Estonia - Eseffintonia! - votes by internet. Meanwhile we take a week and a half to count scantrons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: How can 1/5 of the voting machines not be working in a county where 4/5 of election workers are 80 years old? Beats me. In the early internet days there was supposedly a code word for this: PEBCAK “Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard.” Yesterday’s PEBKAC is today’s Arizona/Florida poll worker. Are you saying they let elderly people set up the voting machines there? Or are the elderly election workers just checking registrations and directing people where to go? Seems a bit stupid to let anyone, let alone elderly people, tinker with a voting machine on election day, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Are you saying they let elderly people set up the voting machines there? Or are the elderly election workers just checking registrations and directing people where to go? Seems a bit stupid to let anyone, let alone elderly people, tinker with a voting machine on election day, doesn't it? I had a retired in law who lived there. When I say “there” I don’t just mean “in Maricopa” or even “in a Maricopa retirement community.” I mean in Anthem retirement community. Right next to the outlet mall. RIP. Old folks getting involved in everything. Go see for yourself. Edited November 8, 2022 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Drop off your ballot! But reserve your right to complain. Over and over again. #AZRetirementLiving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 This is all normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Dems will stop at nothing. What a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: This is all normal. Mesa = Probably Mormon = Republican. Just so you know whose vote is being diabolically suppressed this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 53 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: How can 1/5 of the voting machines not be working in a county where 4/5 of election workers are 80 years old? Beats me. In the early internet days there was supposedly a code word for this: PEBCAK “Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard.” Yesterday’s PEBKAC is today’s Arizona/Florida poll worker. The age of the election workers is a red herring, though 4/5 being over 80 is quite shocking, as this is a very long day for them, ,and you don't normally see anyone over 80. You had to be there without leaving from 5am until 8pm. I did this for six years, and the machines not working has nothing to do with the poll workers. They check registration validity. The machines are put in place and completely secured until about an hour before the polls open. The process then begins to activate them, and always checked and verified by more than one person. In my six years, I had one machine malfunction, and while it was being fixed, which took less than fifteen minutes, I stood watch over those fixing it. Took about 45 minutes, and no data was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, sherpa said: The age of the election workers is a red herring, though 4/5 being over 80 is quite shocking, as this is a very long day for them, ,and you don't normally see anyone over 80. You had to be there without leaving from 5am until 8pm. I did this for six years, and the machines not working has nothing to do with the poll workers. They check registration validity. The machines are put in place and completely secured until about an hour before the polls open. The process then begins to activate them, and always checked and verified by more than one person. In my six years, I had one machine malfunction, and while it was being fixed, which took less than fifteen minutes, I stood watch over those fixing it. Took about 45 minutes, and no data was lost. So… corruption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Think I said this 2 years ago but I’ll give her credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, sherpa said: The age of the election workers is a red herring, though 4/5 being over 80 is quite shocking, as this is a very long day for them, ,and you don't normally see anyone over 80. You had to be there without leaving from 5am until 8pm. I did this for six years, and the machines not working has nothing to do with the poll workers. They check registration validity. The machines are put in place and completely secured until about an hour before the polls open. The process then begins to activate them, and always checked and verified by more than one person. In my six years, I had one machine malfunction, and while it was being fixed, which took less than fifteen minutes, I stood watch over those fixing it. Took about 45 minutes, and no data was lost. Thanks. The 4/5 being over 80 was just a joke. But suffice to say there’s a lot of older Americans - generally really good people trying to do a good job -in charge of the on-site polling places in our retirement communities. Your overall point strikes me as correct. Problems will arise, fixes will come, mostly just random stuff (“printer out of ink!”) that will taken care of. I’m just highlighting the leap to wild conspiracy explanations of ordinary issues coming from both sides. That’s America today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: Thanks. The 4/5 being over 80 was just a joke. But suffice to say there’s a lot of older Americans - generally really good people trying to do a good job -in charge of the on-site polling places in our retirement communities. Your overall point strikes me as correct. Problems will arise, fixes will come, mostly just random stuff (“printer out of ink!”) that will taken care of. I’m just highlighting the leap to wild conspiracy explanations of ordinary issues coming from both sides. That’s America today. Where's the wild conspiracy theories? We are just highlighting that this stuff isn't normal and nobody should be ok with it. It's one day. Elections are fairly important. Get your ***** together. But keep explaining it away as a nothing burger or stick to monitoring the latest Q crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: But keep explaining it away as a nothing burger or stick to monitoring the latest Q crap. How dare you call your former mentor “crap.” He will crap 600 pages of analysis all over you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Near Scranton, PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 39 minutes ago, LeviF said: The DOJ has no right to oversee elections. Unless it's MAGA Former Justice officials: Trump asked DOJ to seize voting machines Trump tried to use the DOJ in his effort to overturn election 'Leave the rest to me': Trump asked former DOJ official to call 2020 election corrupt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, BillStime said: Unless it's MAGA Former Justice officials: Trump asked DOJ to seize voting machines Trump tried to use the DOJ in his effort to overturn election 'Leave the rest to me': Trump asked former DOJ official to call 2020 election corrupt Again, the DOJ has no right to oversee elections. In instances of certain kinds of fraud they MAY have jurisdiction over some criminal cases but I don’t know exactly when that would be. But that’s always going to be after the fact, not on Election Day. The DOJ has no place in intimidating voters and poll workers at voting locations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: How dare you call your former mentor “crap.” He will crap 600 pages of analysis all over you! Cmon tell us your handle at the other board. Nobody believes that you can resist your obsession. How many times have you muttered his name involuntarily today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, LeviF said: Again, the DOJ has no right to oversee elections. In instances of certain kinds of fraud they MAY have jurisdiction over some criminal cases but I don’t know exactly when that would be. But that’s always going to be after the fact, not on Election Day. The DOJ has no place in intimidating voters and poll workers at voting locations. Yup. Just because Trump tried to use the DOJ, it doesn't mean they could do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 lmao 16 minutes ago, LeviF said: Again, the DOJ has no right to oversee elections. In instances of certain kinds of fraud they MAY have jurisdiction over some criminal cases but I don’t know exactly when that would be. But that’s always going to be after the fact, not on Election Day. The DOJ has no place in intimidating voters and poll workers at voting locations. But but but but but only when Trump is involved. Got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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