SoCal Deek Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, BillStime said: BINGO Yea, the DEMS rigged it so HARD that they barely have a majority in the House and Senate. IDIOTS! Unbelievable. You really don’t know how ANYTHING works, do you? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Isn’t there any news from the Eastern Front you can be focused on today? Can't you admit anything??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, Tiberius said: Can't you admit anything??? Relax Tibs. It’s going to be okay. Breathe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, SoCal Deek said: Unbelievable. You really don’t know how ANYTHING works, do you? LOL - your typical go to response when you can't square it. Typical MAGA - in over their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Relax Tibs. It’s going to be okay. Breathe! So that's a no, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m actually in favor of a National Voting Day. Get rid of one of the outdated holidays where people use it to go shopping and replace it with this more important civic duty. There’s nothing wrong with voting in advance. The problem, as Goose well described, is that it takes days to count them all afterwards. A much better solution would be to keep early voting and just allow canvassing and processing before Election Day. Then the ballots will be ready to count with the Election Day ballots and it can be done quickly. Remember how bad Florida was in 2000? Since then, they’ve worked on their process and now will be one of the quickest to finish counting today. You can have early voting and count by the end of Election day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, BillStime said: LOL - your typical go to response when you can't square it. Typical MAGA - in over their heads. He's a moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: LOL - your typical go to response when you can't square it. Typical MAGA - in over their heads. Or maybe…just maybe…you actually don’t know how ANYTHING works. (No matter what color the font is.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Yes don’t worry. When the Rs retake both Houses democracy will not only not die, but be even stronger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, Doc said: Yes don’t worry. When the Rs retake both Houses democracy will not only not die, but he even stronger. Wait for the votes to be counted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: A much better solution would be to keep early voting and just allow canvassing and processing before Election Day. Then the ballots will be ready to count with the Election Day ballots and it can be done quickly. Remember how bad Florida was in 2000? Since then, they’ve worked on their process and now will be one of the quickest to finish counting today. You can have early voting and count by the end of Election day I respectfully disagree. Once again the problem is NOT a technical one. It’s one of perception. We just had a Supreme Court ruling leaked ahead of the opinion, with a tiny number of clerks having had access to it. …and you think thousands of partisan poll volunteers are going to be able to keep vote tallies under lock and key? Not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: If they rigged it, they SUCKED at it. Who rigs an election to LOSE seats in the House and barely hold the Senate, preventing any big legislation? When they counted all those early or mailed in ballots a ton of them only had a vote for the Presidency and left the other options blank. Nothing fishy about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiGoose Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I respectfully disagree. Once again the problem is NOT a technical one. It’s one of perception. We just had a Supreme Court ruling leaked ahead of the opinion, with a tiny number of clerks having had access to it. …and you think thousands of partisan poll volunteers are going to be able to keep vote tallies under lock and key? Not possible. I personally just don't believe that the government should bend over and impede the exercise of the franchise because of bad faith actors and poor journalism. I also reject the notion that poll volunteers are partisan. There are strict rules governing what can be done and said in a polling location and there is oversight and checks on the process. These are good people volunteering as part of their civic duty and should be applauded, not demeaned. Frankly, many states have no problems with pre-canvassing mail-in ballots before election day and then getting all of the ballots counted on election day. Those states should be the ones we emulate. Going back to everybody just voting on one day because we are worried that gullible people will believe falsehoods about the election is cowardly and impedes the ability of people to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 48 minutes ago, BillStime said: What's wrong with voting weeks in advance? well, for one you get situations like in Pennsylvania with the stroke victim who clearly needs to be at home resting and recovering vs. serving as a US Senator. A lot of votes were already cast before the one and only debate between him and Oz. For overseas military members - sure. For everyone else… nah. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 To my fellow conservatives / Republicans I simply say this: Do not assume that this is a done deal - so get off your arses, go to your nearest polling booth and vote! Voting discipline is essential, which means that every vote counts. It's time to put this sick democrat dog to sleep. God bless the great US of A! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: I personally just don't believe that the government should bend over and impede the exercise of the franchise because of bad faith actors and poor journalism. I also reject the notion that poll volunteers are partisan. There are strict rules governing what can be done and said in a polling location and there is oversight and checks on the process. These are good people volunteering as part of their civic duty and should be applauded, not demeaned. Frankly, many states have no problems with pre-canvassing mail-in ballots before election day and then getting all of the ballots counted on election day. Those states should be the ones we emulate. Going back to everybody just voting on one day because we are worried that gullible people will believe falsehoods about the election is cowardly and impedes the ability of people to vote. We’re having trouble communicating here this morning. (It’s an internet thing.) The problem isn’t technical. It’s perception! But I do want to push back on your polling worker comment. From your other posts I perceive that you’re in the legal profession. Do you also hold that Supreme Court clerks are supposed to be non-partisan? I sure hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 TRUTH: . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I'm about 8 hours behind here in AUS watching pre-recorded FOX News shows such as Bret Baier, Tucker, Hannity & Ingraham and they are pointing to New Hampshire and Oregon as potential surprise wins for the GOP. In any event, as long as that miserable fat sow Stacy Abrams gets humiliated, it'll be a great day! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, RiotAct said: well, for one you get situations like in Pennsylvania with the stroke victim who clearly needs to be at home resting and recovering vs. serving as a US Senator. A lot of votes were already cast before the one and only debate between him and Oz. For overseas military members - sure. For everyone else… nah. Oh nonsense. Nothing stopped you from voting for this degenerate: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Watch for delayed election results By Monica Showalter The polls all say the same thing: Republicans will reclaim the House and Senate. The Republican know this. The Democrats know this. And most alarming, the political operatives know this. They also know what the internal polls say, which are inevitably worse for Democrats because such things aren't push polls done for public relations purposes. What's a Democrat to do? We know the Democrats are determined. They are fighting. They've got the big guns of their party, President Obama, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and Joe Biden, out there on the campaign trail, each unwittingly blundering it up in his or her own way. Based on their common talking point about "saving democracy," it's pretty obvious they feel "entitled" to win, too. By their argument, the opposition is evil. With this the case, their political operatives have undoubtedly been told by their moneybags masters: "Well, we'll just have to win, then," to use the words of Bill Clinton to his Machiavellian operative at the time, Dick Morris. Which should be on the minds of all Republicans expecting an easy victory. What should concern Republicans now, given that victory is within reach? We know. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/11/watch_for_delayed_election_results.html . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 well mateys I have battened down the hatches. I think today is going to be a bumpy ride. Which side has emboldened and enticed their side to vote the most today? Will people accept the results if thy aren't in their favor? @-@ It honestly wouldn't surprise me either way if the American people vote their conscience and one party ends up the biggest loser tonight after all of this. That is of course what politics has become in our country. This thread was aptly titled. Its all a political Gamesmanship and who will "win" and who will "Lose" for me it is pick your poison. GO USA Tck. Signed muppy the cynical anti-politico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I personally just don't believe that the government should bend over and impede the exercise of the franchise because of bad faith actors and poor journalism. I also reject the notion that poll volunteers are partisan. There are strict rules governing what can be done and said in a polling location and there is oversight and checks on the process. These are good people volunteering as part of their civic duty and should be applauded, not demeaned. Those strict rules were brazenly broken by partisan actors in 2020. See GOP poll watchers expelled from polls in PA. Poll workers papering windows in MI. GA ballot counting resuming in wee hours of the morning when they said they'd wait until next day. 24/7 required surveillance of mail in drop boxes not adhered to in many states and locations. WI ballot harvesting in nursing homes. Etc.. But sure, there are strict rules! Rules made to be broken in plain sight. . 11 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Frankly, many states have no problems with pre-canvassing mail-in ballots before election day and then getting all of the ballots counted on election day. Those states should be the ones we emulate. Going back to everybody just voting on one day because we are worried that gullible people will believe falsehoods about the election is cowardly and impedes the ability of people to vote. Every state should strive for the gold standard: Florida. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiGoose Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: We’re having trouble communicating here this morning. (It’s an internet thing.) The problem isn’t technical. It’s perception! But I do want to push back on your polling worker comment. From your other posts I perceive that you’re in the legal profession. Do you also hold that Supreme Court clerks are supposed to be non-partisan? I sure hope so! I understand it's not technical. I just don't think the government should restrict the ability for people to vote because of bad faith actors. I don't think the SCOTUS leak is relevant but I am hoping that the Chief Justice makes the investigation report public. It shouldn't have been leaked and whoever did it should be held accountable. If you think poll workers are partisan, I would encourage you to volunteer to be one next time around and actually pay attention to how things work. It's a good experience and will dispute many of the myths around how things work. Even be an election judge for the GOP if you'd like (or whatever party). I did that one year and it was pretty cool. And I am usually the first to push back on anecdotes, but yesterday a friend of mine who is organizing poll watchers for the local Dems called me. He had been sent the credentials via email but he works for the government, so he wasn't allowed to print them at work. I had him send the files to me and I printed them and dropped them off at his house later. He probably could have just printed them and gotten away with it (it's just a handful of pages) but since that was against the rules, we came up with a plan that involved an extra hour and a half of driving around because he didn't want to break the rules. I think that example is FAR more illustrative of election workers than the myth that they are all partisans trying to rig the election for their party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, ChiGoose said: I understand it's not technical. I just don't think the government should restrict the ability for people to vote because of bad faith actors. I don't think the SCOTUS leak is relevant but I am hoping that the Chief Justice makes the investigation report public. It shouldn't have been leaked and whoever did it should be held accountable. If you think poll workers are partisan, I would encourage you to volunteer to be one next time around and actually pay attention to how things work. It's a good experience and will dispute many of the myths around how things work. Even be an election judge for the GOP if you'd like (or whatever party). I did that one year and it was pretty cool. And I am usually the first to push back on anecdotes, but yesterday a friend of mine who is organizing poll watchers for the local Dems called me. He had been sent the credentials via email but he works for the government, so he wasn't allowed to print them at work. I had him send the files to me and I printed them and dropped them off at his house later. He probably could have just printed them and gotten away with it (it's just a handful of pages) but since that was against the rules, we came up with a plan that involved an extra hour and a half of driving around because he didn't want to break the rules. I think that example is FAR more illustrative of election workers than the myth that they are all partisans trying to rig the election for their party. Thanks for the discussion. We’ll just agree to disagree. Have a great day. It’s all going to be fine. One thing we know is that Democracy is definitely NOT on the ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Voting machines down all over. Hmmmmm… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 SHE DOESN’T THINK, BUT THAT’S THE CONVENIENT LIE: Karine Jean-Pierre Thinks it’s Normal to Not Know Election Results ‘For a Few Days’. https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/11/karine-jean-pierre-thinks-its-normal-to-not-know-election-results-for-a-few-days/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 33 minutes ago, muppy said: well mateys I have battened down the hatches. I think today is going to be a bumpy ride. Which side has emboldened and enticed their side to vote the most today? Will people accept the results if thy aren't in their favor? @-@ It honestly wouldn't surprise me either way if the American people vote their conscience and one party ends up the biggest loser tonight after all of this. That is of course what politics has become in our country. This thread was aptly titled. Its all a political Gamesmanship and who will "win" and who will "Lose" for me it is pick your poison. GO USA Tck. Signed muppy the cynical anti-politico Hey Mup, No hatches to batten imo. There will be a ton of political theater, a treasure trove of breathless reporting, and much to fret about what with the notion that democracy is on the brink. Cast your vote if you choose, take a pass if you like, consider historical precedent when it comes to midterms and move on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, BillStime said: 🎯 Who are the conservatives? I have seen more Libs going against Dems. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Who are the conservatives? I have seen more Libs going against Dems. All those RHINO's out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Stock market is up today. That must be a sign of something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, BillStime said: All those RHINO's out there... No one at all- just another lie from you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Hey Mup, No hatches to batten imo. There will be a ton of political theater, a treasure trove of breathless reporting, and much to fret about what with the notion that democracy is on the brink. Cast your vote if you choose, take a pass if you like, consider historical precedent when it comes to midterms and move on. you often know what to say to calm me down. I appreciate your perspectives on things. we are amigos that way. I have my one vote, I use it, and the rest is out of my control. I submit all of this to a much Higher Power than I. PS: did u read the book "The Rainbow Fish" to your kids? Im recreating the cover as a template for my coffee4kids papercraft project. Its going to be magnifico! 🙂 m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, muppy said: you often know what to say to calm me down. I appreciate your perspectives on things. we are amigos that way. I have my one vote, I use it, and the rest is out of my control. I submit all of this to a much Higher Power than I. PS: did u read the book "The Rainbow Fish" to your kids? Im recreating the cover as a template for my coffee4kids papercraft project. Its going to be magnifico! 🙂 m I don’t recall that book specifically. We read a ton together and sorta remember Wanda the Octopus, but cannot say with certainty. Cool cover though! On that note, one of my prouder moments as a parent was when my daughter called from college after a long class on employment law and told me that she kept thinking of me and this clip. Edited November 8, 2022 by leh-nerd skin-erd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Stock market is up today. That must be a sign of something Yeah, that the days of the Democrats ruining the economy is over. Edited November 8, 2022 by Doc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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