OJ Dingo Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: 2010 Buffalo was pretty bad: Spiller Troup Carrington Marcus Easley Ed Wang Arthur Moats Danny Batten Levi Brown Kyle Calloway and 2011 was horrible as well. 2010 - 2016 were complete wastes. Every time I think of the 2010 draft and look at Torell Troup, I'm reminded that Rob Gronkowski was picked next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Worst is a bold term, they obviously did very poor. Getting a 1st for Chubb helps somewhat I guess, but drafting Allen or Jackson was obviously the right move in hindsight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 The year when buffalo picked maybin was the worst draft in nfl history by a team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 At the time it was seen as a good pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Watkins101 said: Maybe it was horrible, and stand-alone it’s a pretty bad sequence of events. But Maybe they get a franchise QB from the pick next year and it ends up working out for them. Many people said similar things when the bills traded the pick where Pat Mahomes was taken, until Allen proved himself in this league, and the trade looks like a win for both parties now. My point isn’t that the trade resulting from picking Chubb at 5 will beat out on drafting Allen at 5, but the story has not been fully written yet. Also, there have been many worse returns than a 1st after 4 years of play for a top 5 pick. Take Baker Mayfield from the same draft, who went 1 OA, then traded him for scraps to Carolina. Remember, they traded their first for Russ. The first they just got is the 49ers 1st, which will be pretty late. So them sucking this year only gets the Seahawks a better pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Thank Osweiller and Lynch for the Broncos passing on a tall physically gifted semi-project like Allen. Elway psyched himself out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Chicharito said: The year when buffalo picked maybin was the worst draft in nfl history by a team. The Raiders got so many firsts trading Mack and Cooper and they all busted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, st pete gogolak said: OK, maybe not the absolute worst in NFL history but they are sitting at #5 in a supposedly historic QB class and their QB is Case Keenum. Not only do they not draft Josh Allen but they turn down a trade with the Bills because they absolutely, positively have to have Bradley Chubb at #5. They churn through Keenum, Paxton Lynch and Drew Lock and decide they are a QB away from the Super Bowl and give the farm away for what looks like a washed Russell Wilson. The cherry on top is now trading Chubb for a #1. What a frickin' disaster. go look at a few raiders drafts fro a couple years back. They would have loved the broncos draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Getting Bradley Chubb alone makes it not nearly the worst draft ever. Jets in that Draft were much worse- the best player they drafted was Darnold and the rest were bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, MJS said: At the time it was seen as a good pick. And that’s all you can fairly go by. At least it was a premium position, and he IS a good player. I will say, I’d rather have the first five cheap years. We are on the brink, so I love the Von signing. This is like the Dolphins signing Mario Williams. Yeah! Then bye, bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, co_springs_billsfan said: How about the Saints trading all of this for Ricky Williams: 1999 - 1st (12th Overall) 1999 - 3rd 1999 - 4th 1999 - 5th 1999 - 6th 1999 - 7th 2000 - 1st (2nd Overall) 2000 - 3rd Ditka was quite strident. Acted like he getting Gale Sayers plus Walter Payton in one player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 There were some circumstances around that 2018 draft for Denver you need to understand Denver at that time, and up until just this year, was being run by a trust. They had just come off a losing season under Vance Joseph and Elway the GM, was looking to make a coaching change. he wanted to bring back Mike Shanahan. However, the trust wouldn't allow it, and didn't want to be paying Joseph and others not to be coaching. Elway was kind of painted into the corner of giving Vance Joseph another year, along with an ultimatum to win or be fired. Joseph had already been stuck with Paxton Lynch (I have a very interesting story about the drafting of Lynch that involves the Chiefs, Cowboys, and Roger Goodell...tampering) ...Joseph requested a vet QB and so they signed Keenum. He wasn't "already there". Having signed Keenum, Denver wasn't really in teh QB market....the coach was fighting to keep his job and would not have been interested in taking a QB and would not have been interested in developing that QB...so at 5 they took Chubb. A highly rated, ready to go right now, pass rusher. It may very well have been different if Elway got to hire Shanahan and they would have then been in the QB market and may well have taken Allen, ready to develop him and with the luxury of being a new regime, and expedrience regime...it might have worked out there. As it was, they weren't at point where it would have made sense for them. Imagine what might have happend if Elway went ahead and drafted Allen, gave him to that coach, who got fired anyhow, and then moved on to another coaching staff that had no ties to Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: There were some circumstances around that 2018 draft for Denver you need to understand Denver at that time, and up until just this year, was being run by a trust. They had just come off a losing season under Vance Joseph and Elway the GM, was looking to make a coaching change. he wanted to bring back Mike Shanahan. However, the trust wouldn't allow it, and didn't want to be paying Joseph and others not to be coaching. Elway was kind of painted into the corner of giving Vance Joseph another year, along with an ultimatum to win or be fired. Joseph had already been stuck with Paxton Lynch (I have a very interesting story about the drafting of Lynch that involves the Chiefs, Cowboys, and Roger Goodell...tampering) ...Joseph requested a vet QB and so they signed Keenum. He wasn't "already there". Having signed Keenum, Denver wasn't really in teh QB market....the coach was fighting to keep his job and would not have been interested in taking a QB and would not have been interested in developing that QB...so at 5 they took Chubb. A highly rated, ready to go right now, pass rusher. It may very well have been different if Elway got to hire Shanahan and they would have then been in the QB market and may well have taken Allen, ready to develop him and with the luxury of being a new regime, and expedrience regime...it might have worked out there. As it was, they weren't at point where it would have made sense for them. Imagine what might have happend if Elway went ahead and drafted Allen, gave him to that coach, who got fired anyhow, and then moved on to another coaching staff that had no ties to Allen. It worked out for Allen. That would have been a sucky situation to be in. Allen got to come here and have stability. Of course, he had virtually no offensive talent around him, but at least he had a stable front office and coaches committed to his development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 They are tanking to draft a QB in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I think you can look at most of the drafts the Bills had during the drought and argue almost all of them were worse than the Broncos draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, mabden said: They are tanking to draft a QB in the draft. They don’t own their own 1st round pick. It belongs to Seattle. Ranking doesn’t help them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Broncos passed on Allen a year after Bills traded out of the Mahomes spot (with Taylor as QB). It happens. Sutton and Jewel are still productive players for them. Chubb was good when healthy and fetched them another 1st. Not awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Chicharito said: The year when buffalo picked maybin was the worst draft in nfl history by a team. That was a solid draft outside of Maybin. 2016 was worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 5 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: This would be an interesting topic: name the Buffalo Bills worst draft. For me, it’s 2000. Only Sammy Morris amounted to anything and that wasn’t much. Leif Larsen was picked 5 slots before Tom Brady. Dark times. The 2014, 2015, 2016 Bills drafts were arguably as bad, if not worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 5 hours ago, co_springs_billsfan said: How about the Saints trading all of this for Ricky Williams: 1999 - 1st (12th Overall) 1999 - 3rd 1999 - 4th 1999 - 5th 1999 - 6th 1999 - 7th 2000 - 1st (2nd Overall) 2000 - 3rd Just watched a YouTube documentary on this. 🤣🤣🤣 Ditka was smoking something for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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