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2 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

 

Not every critique thread gets a huge amount of backlash.  It's just that most critique threads are overly neurotic and fatalistic with not much basis in reality, and usually they are unsubstantiated with facts. 

 

You won't find much disagreement that we need better push from the interior OL in our short run game, for example.  But then we also get multiple threads about rookies being busts when they've played one or two NFL games.

Amen to that!

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6 hours ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

ok, but who wouldn't be good with JA?

 

Rex Ryan.  What does it matter?  McD got this team to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor and Nate Peterman at QB with Zay Jones as the #1 receiver and some other nobody.

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39 minutes ago, teef said:

not as much as others apparently.

the constructive criticism is very welcome.  it's the people who purposely post threads to start drama, and no matter how many decent points are made otherwise, they want to hammer away at the drama.  i've seen many people criticize this team and not get blasted.  why?  they do it in an intelligent manner.  it's pretty obvious who is who, so the victim mentality is bull####.

No it's not. I know many who feel otherwise. Your insight here is off here. It allows you and others to go on the attack. Who makes the distinction you are saying? Where is the line drawn? How can you prove what you are claiming? 

 

Hi back and look at my posts and see the attacks I received. Many were way out there saying I'm a fan of another time, attacking me personally, etc...Totally false! I do accept the professional criticism frim many on here. I clearly went way overboard and beat a dead horse. I keep my mouth shut and took their advice. 

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1 hour ago, Motor26 said:

 

I assume you disagreed with McD's correct call to go for it om 4th down vs. Tennessee last year too. When you have QB's like Josh or Lamar, you go for it. 


 

i get what you are saying but the situation was different.

 

If Baltimore was down by 3 they would kick the FG.

 

Baltimore looked at the odds of going for a TD in a close game. If they kicked a FG buffalo could drive down for a TD.  They did not expect Lamar to through a pick allowing buffalo to not start from inside their 5.

 

buffalo was playing to burn the clock and just get a FG once thry got in FG range and it was around 2 minutes left.

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2 hours ago, billsfanmiamioh said:


Theres a subset of Bills fans that will never be happy. They’d be calling into GR during the super bowl parade calling for the coaches head because he “wasted” a timeout or something. 


 

We have one that started this thread and also started a thread about it was better when the Bills were losing.

 

That is the subset of fans we are dealing with.

 

You are correct - they will never be happy and will complain about everything with coaching until we are back to the Jaurons and Rex Ryan’s and last in the division.

 

 

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2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Yeah and they would be completely inaccurate. 
 

Harbaugh was 100% correct going for it. And you know what it was 7 if Lamar wasn’t SO LATE LATE LATE with the ball. 
 

Duverney was WIDE OPEN from jump they never covered him. 

 

It was also 7 if Lamar looked to the left off the snap with a wide open guy.

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2 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

I think it’s more so that many people on this forum can’t accept any conversation that is critical of any facet of the Bills organization. The Bills can do no wrong in their eyes and we should not talk about anything negative. I even had a moderator call my posts “spewing” because I posting a thread about my concerns of the coaching staff. 

 

To further prove this point, I have started 26 threads (ever). About 70% of them are positive/pro-Bills. None of the “no negative talk” people remember those threads. They latch onto the 30% that talk about things that need to get better.

 

Its just human nature when it comes to fandom, I suppose.

 

Feels good.

 

You should really self reflect on your posting if you think you are only 30% negative.  I asked you to show me a positive post before and you linked me to a post where you were positive about something meaningless and then criticized McD in the same post.  You could have shown me any post you wanted and you chose that one.  SMH.

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18 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

No it's not. I know many who feel otherwise. Your insight here is off here. It allows you and others to go on the attack. Who makes the distinction you are saying? Where is the line drawn? How can you prove what you are claiming? 

 

Hi back and look at my posts and see the attacks I received. Many were way out there saying I'm a fan of another time, attacking me personally, etc...Totally false! I do accept the professional criticism frim many on here. I clearly went way overboard and beat a dead horse. I keep my mouth shut and took their advice. 

i wasn't referring to you by the way.  and it absolutely is the case.  only a handful of posters are truly, "attacked".  it's not their message, it's their approach...and it's always the same few people.  where is the line drawn?  common sense.  

 

who can i prove it?  einstein was doing it yesterday.  he kept quoting losses in close games by mcd, but only from last year and this year.  why?  because it makes the situation seem more dire.  when asked why he didn't include any previous years, he said because it wasn't relevant.  why?  if you're going to discuss win/loss records about a coach, why not discuss his entire tenure here?  he knows what he's doing as most posters who get attacked do too.  

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1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

He is 100% correct. Most constructive criticism of the Bills aren't welcome here. Be prepared for a backlash. Labeled as a hater, a fan of another team,  a troll, and getting banned for the smallest of technicalities. I think most here aren't looking for sympathy or playing the victim. Rather some feel they can't or shouldn't express  negativity due to the consequences. 


 

People are more than willing to have constructive criticism - he issue is the few that push a narrative, but do not really discuss.  They just keep stating the same incorrect garbage over and over - even when there has been concrete proof to show the other side.

 

For example - here was a huge complaint by a specific poster about how McD was to blame for not challenging the Davis “catch” in the Miami game.

 

Tons of proof as provided stating why it was not a TD, but the poster just kept repeating it was a catch with no poof.  It is fine to present your case, but when you are the only one that sees it a certain way and your whole reason is that is how you feel - maybe express yourself once or twice and then move on rather than making it crusade over and over.

 

 

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I'm a big McD critic but I give him a lot of credit for the job he did yesterday and putting the 'can't win close games' narrative to rest, at least temporarily.

 

Still think the Ravens are going to win their division and are a legit SB contender which makes this a big time win for tie breaker purposes as well.

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1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

He is 100% correct. Most constructive criticism of the Bills aren't welcome here. Be prepared for a backlash. Labeled as a hater, a fan of another team,  a troll, and getting banned for the smallest of technicalities. I think most here aren't looking for sympathy or playing the victim. Rather some feel they can't or shouldn't express  negativity due to the consequences. 

 

Nah if people got banned for the smallest of technicalities then FilthyBeast would have been banned long ago.  This moderation team is pretty good and for the most part lets people say their peace about the Bills. On BBMB you couldnt say anything without being banned.  I was being stalked and harrased by someone on that board.  Dude literally followed me from thread to thread harrasing me and I got banned instead because one day I got tired of it and I stood up for myself.  You had to walk on egg shells there because there were clearly mods that had power go to their head and certain posters were friends of them and untouchable.

 

You also dont seem to understand the difference of opinion and people that have agendas that have to drive it in every single post they make.  People that make posts criticizing things when it doesnt even make sense to criticize because they have tunnel vision about their opinion.  I've seen people get pure negative on the team after the Bills blew out the other team the same day.  Im sorry but thats just insane.  Thats not just opinion.  Thats agenda.

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8 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


 

People are more than willing to have constructive criticism - he issue is the few that push a narrative, but do not really discuss.  They just keep stating the same incorrect garbage over and over - even when there has been concrete proof to show the other side.

 

For example - here was a huge complaint by a specific poster about how McD was to blame for not challenging the Davis “catch” in the Miami game.

 

Tons of proof as provided stating why it was not a TD, but the poster just kept repeating it was a catch with no poof.  It is fine to present your case, but when you are the only one that sees it a certain way and your whole reason is that is how you feel - maybe express yourself once or twice and then move on rather than making it crusade over and over.

 

 

I'll take that advice. Thank you. 

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The only problem I have with the decision making of this coach is with player personnel. One question is why won't they deactivate Moss for a game and bring up Duke Johnson to see if he can inject some energy into the running game? Why didn't he sit Gabe down until his ankle is healthy and give the younger guys some burn? 

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34 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

No it's not. I know many who feel otherwise. Your insight here is off here. It allows you and others to go on the attack. Who makes the distinction you are saying? Where is the line drawn? How can you prove what you are claiming? 

 

Hi back and look at my posts and see the attacks I received. Many were way out there saying I'm a fan of another time, attacking me personally, etc...Totally false! I do accept the professional criticism frim many on here. I clearly went way overboard and beat a dead horse. I keep my mouth shut and took their advice. 

 

You spent like 2 hours crying about a roughing the passer call bro.

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McD has a huge following and there are some who see absolutely no wrong in anything he does.  

 

He's improved dramatically as a coach, particularly on the offensive side of things.  Again I think this is 90% due to Allen, but he has done a much better job.

 

Still there are plenty of calls to questions, but this is the same with all coaches.

 

But yes and I've call them this before, there are a segment of posters here who are 100% McD apologists.

 

Yesterday I frankly was never worried and thought the Bills would win.  Their toughest foe was the weather.

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6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Nah if people got banned for the smallest of technicalities then FilthyBeast would have been banned long ago.  This moderation team is pretty good and for the most part lets people say their peace about the Bills. On BBMB you couldnt say anything without being banned.  I was being stalked and harrased by someone on that board.  Dude literally followed me from thread to thread harrasing me and I got banned instead because one day I got tired of it and I stood up for myself.  You had to walk on egg shells there because there were clearly mods that had power go to their head and certain posters were friends of them and untouchable.

 

You also dont seem to understand the difference of opinion and people that have agendas that have to drive it in every single post they make.  People that make posts criticizing things when it doesnt even make sense to criticize because they have tunnel vision about their opinion.  I've seen people get pure negative on the team after the Bills blew out the other team the same day.  Im sorry but thats just insane.  Thats not just opinion.  Thats agenda.

I hear you. I mean people have differing views. Not sure why anyone has an agenda here. That seems bizarre to me.  

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Just now, Billsfan1972 said:

McD has a huge following and there are some who see absolutely no wrong in anything he does.  

 

He's improved dramatically as a coach, particularly on the offensive side of things.  Again I think this is 90% due to Allen, but he has done a much better job.

 

Still there are plenty of calls to questions, but this is the same with all coaches.

 

But yes and I've call them this before, there are a segment of posters here who are 100% McD apologists.

 

Yesterday I frankly was never worried and thought the Bills would win.  Their toughest foe was the weather.

nonsense.  he's certainly not a perfect coach and he needs to improve in certain areas of his game, but the criticism he gets from certain posters is insane.  for no reason at all, you just don't like that he's tied in with improving the culture.  why?

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

I hear you. I mean people have differing views. Not sure why anyone has an agenda here. That seems bizarre to me.  

so...you don't think filthybeast has an agenda?

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