Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It's not and you're not Coaching didn't lose this game, the guy throwing the ball did. Coaching had them in position to win multiple times, even with all the injuries. You don’t think we should have kicked the field goal, instead of sending your injured QB (who is also struggling in general) to try and convert 4th and goal? Not doubling Jefferson? Not calling any running plays in OT when the Vikings had 6 DB’s on the field? If not, then we can agree to disagree. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I don't think the coaching was good today. ESPECIALLY Dorsey. But Josh Allen has turned it over another 3 times. He cannot keep killing us like this. He is biggest reason for the last two defeat. Not good enough. All around. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I noticed McDermott kind of threw Josh under the bus at the very start of his post-game PC...basically saying you can't win when you turn the ball over 4 times. It's not like him to point at specific reasons for losses.... It's usually all "WE" didn't do enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Einstein said: You don’t think we should have kicked the field goal, instead of sending your injured QB (who is also struggling in general) to try and convert 4th and goal? Not doubling Jefferson? Not calling any running plays in OT when the Vikings had 6 DB’s on the field? If not, then we can agree to disagree. It wasn't 4th and goal, it was 4th and two. A good way to lose respect is to demonstrate how you weren't even paying attention... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I noticed McDermott kind of threw Josh under the bus at the very start of his post-game PC...basically saying you can't win when you turn the ball over 4 times. It's not like him to point at specific reasons for losses.... It's usually all "WE" didn't do enough. Yes, I heard that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I noticed McDermott kind of threw Josh under the bus at the very start of his post-game PC...basically saying you can't win when you turn the ball over 4 times. It's not like him to point at specific reasons for losses.... It's usually all "WE" didn't do enough. Really? I swear McDermott has said that exact same thing like 4 or 5 other times since becoming HC. "You can't turn the ball over like that" is extremely standard coach speak. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: It wasn't 4th and goal, it was 4th and two. A good way to lose respect is to demonstrate how you weren't even paying attention... You’re right. I must of thought it was 4th and goal since EVERY SINGLE OFFENSIVE RECEIVING OPTION ran into the endzone. So much for only needing 2 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) If we were gonna go for it on 4th and 2, how do you not run Josh 3 times in that situation when it’s 2nd and 2? Edited November 13, 2022 by BuffaloRebound 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: You’re right. I must of thought it was 4th and goal since EVERY SINGLE OFFENSIVE RECEIVING OPTION ran into the endzone. So much for only needing 2 yards. The offensive plays called in that series were truly baffling. Like truly baffling. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: The offensive plays called in that series were truly baffling. Like truly baffling. You’re right and it almost feels like Dorsey has no “plan”. He isn’t playing chess and setting up the defense for the next play. It almost feels like he is just calling whatever card looks good on the Madden screen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 McD is a great program-builder/turnaround expert. Do not believe he can win a championship in an 18-game season plus the playoffs with smart minds on the other side of the field. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: McD is a great program-builder/turnaround expert. Do not believe he can win a championship in an 18-game season plus the playoffs with smart minds on the other side of the field. Yeah he’s Marv Levy. Not Parcells. Or Belichick. Or even Reid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 7:31 PM, Igotbills said: Time management at end of half and end of game wasn’t great, which continues to be a theme. End of half there was a play that was in bounds with around 50 seconds with all 3 timeouts and we don’t take a timeout we lose about 15-20 seconds. We end up 1st and goal with only 13 seconds left and I believe still 2 timeouts. This probably leaves us only 2 plays at the endzone, maybe a 3rd if go for it and drain the clock. End of game we are around the 50 with around 3- 3 1/2 minutes left and aren’t running the play clock down. Snapping the ball with 10-15 seconds left. it’s like we didn’t realize a field goal of wins the game until the last 3 plays. With everything that went wrong today, you're leading with time management? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: McD is a great program-builder/turnaround expert. Do not believe he can win a championship in an 18-game season plus the playoffs with smart minds on the other side of the field. Pretty much He just doesn't have it Not sure how many seasons of failing to meet expectations we must endure until this is acknowledged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 The fact that this thread can be legitimately resurrected every couple of weeks is troubling. McDermott is a choker. And the entire team is starting to reflect its head coach. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 He is a defensive coach and it’s obvious he’s lost confidence in his defense. They are feisty and the front seven plays hard, but this young secondary cannot hold up against big time receivers. They grab and hold and never knock balls away. 50/50 catches are commonplace for our opponents. He’s never been more than a conservative coach the players play hard for. If he can’t get Josh to cut down on turnovers, he needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, BeastMaster said: Pretty much He just doesn't have it Not sure how many seasons of failing to meet expectations we must endure until this is acknowledged Its coaching purgatory. He is better than half of the NFL Head Coaches. Just like Derek Carr has been better than than half of the QBs in the NFL most of his career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Einstein said: You’re right. I must of thought it was 4th and goal since EVERY SINGLE OFFENSIVE RECEIVING OPTION ran into the endzone. So much for only needing 2 yards. And all Allen had to do was step to his left and take the 2 yards. You're screenshot is late in the play. He was in the mindset of needing the TD when all they needed was two. Then he even said in his presser "it's fourth down there, no reason to take the sack or throw it away." I love the never say die attitude with Allen when they're down in the game and it's 3rd or 4th and long, but in this case they are up by 10 pts and have the Vikings pinned in their own end. The reason coaches don't mind going for it on 4th down there is because if they miss it, they still have the other team pinned. Josh has to understand in this situation that it actually IS okay to throw it away. Not force an INT in the end zone and give away the good field position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think the coaching was good today. ESPECIALLY Dorsey. But Josh Allen has turned it over another 3 times. He cannot keep killing us like this. He is biggest reason for the last two defeat. Not good enough. All around. Allen has been playing like that the last few games, but you don't fix that during the game. You fix it during the week during practice and film study. Allen isn't right, but how's the coaching staff addressing this? Turnovers are a symptom. The coaching staff should be diagnosing the cause and working to fix it during the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: With everything that went wrong today, you're leading with time management? You quoted an old post. 6 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: And all Allen had to do was step to his left and take the 2 yards. You're screenshot is late in the play. He was in the mindset of needing the TD when all they needed was two. Then he even said in his presser "it's fourth down there, no reason to take the sack or throw it away." I love the never say die attitude with Allen when they're down in the game and it's 3rd or 4th and long, but in this case they are up by 10 pts and have the Vikings pinned in their own end. The reason coaches don't mind going for it on 4th down there is because if they miss it, they still have the other team pinned. Josh has to understand in this situation that it actually IS okay to throw it away. Not force an INT in the end zone and give away the good field position. As a coach you have to take everything into consideration and make a decision. Consideration #1: Allen is injured. Consideration #2: Allen hasn’t been playing well. Take those two considerations and the obvious choice to me is “kick the field goal”. If Allen wasn’t injured and Allen was playing normal MVP level, fine, go for it. But he ain’t. And there is no point in pretending that he is. So kick the field goal, considering the circumstances. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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