Poor coaching by McDermott is becoming a theme

[CircleTheWagons99]

won a close game yesterday....

[Dopey]

1 hour ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

 

Josh Allen

McD took this team to the playoffs in his first year here after Rex couldn’t. With Tyrod at qb. Let that sink in for a minute. 

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

1 minute ago, Dopey said:

McD took this team to the playoffs in his first year here after Rex couldn’t. With Tyrod at qb. Let that sink in for a minute. 

Heard about it. Send your money to Dalton’s charity. I want a Super Bowl 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

david Culley was the QB coach. Nathan peterman was the starter. McDermott has no idea what he’s doing on offense. He’s lucky to have Josh Allen and that’s fine. Especially if he wanted him. 
 

edit: Bills have played Baltimore many times since

 

"IN" Baltimore. No they haven't. 

 

I was the biggest Peterman sucks guy going. I told people before that draft I didn't even think he was draftable. I was Peterman sucks before being Peterman sucks was cool. Of course McDermott is lucky to have Josh Allen. You don't win consistently in this league without top Quarterback play, no matter how good of a coach you are. The good ones keep teams around .500 without a good Quarterback. McDermott did that. Of course with a talent like Josh you have to win divisions (tick), make and ultimately win, Superbowls. Nobody is denying there is still a bridge to cross. Nor that McDermott at the coaches screwed up at the end in Kansas City. But you criticise him for things that are not legitimate criticisms because you have an agenda. You told us your agenda in September 2018. You were wrong with your prediction then and you are wrong with it now. 

[Dopey]

3 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

Heard about it. Send your money to Dalton’s charity. I want a Super Bowl 

Josh hasn’t gotten you one. See Dilfer or Rob Johnson. They have more SB rings than Josh. Why? Defense. Mahomes needed defensive upgrades to win his. 

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

2 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Josh hasn’t gotten you one. See Dilfer or Rob Johnson. They have more SB rings than Josh. Why? Defense. Mahomes needed defensive upgrades to win his. 

Ok let’s start a franchise you pick McDermott I call Josh 

[Billsfan1972]

16 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

david Culley was the QB coach. Nathan peterman was the starter. McDermott has no idea what he’s doing on offense. He’s lucky to have Josh Allen and that’s fine. Especially if he wanted him. 
 

edit: Bills have played Baltimore many times since

Absolutely right.  Without Allen who knows where this team would be.  # never forget 48 games no 300 yard passing game (every team in this era does it a minimum 1X/yr).

 

Now I have too said McD has grown on me, however he is not perfect and his mistakes (or teams, sometime hard to differentiate) too have been colossal.

 

Yesterday Harbaugh made the right call on 4th down and Jackson didn't see a wide open receiver (busted Bills coverage?).

 

Buffalo showed that to be the case as they walked down the field quite easily (as they did most of the second half).  

Edited October 3, 2022 by Billsfan1972

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

9 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Josh hasn’t gotten you one. See Dilfer or Rob Johnson. They have more SB rings than Josh. Why? Defense. Mahomes needed defensive upgrades to win his. 

He held us back every playoff loss so far. It’s not only 13 seconds 

13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

"IN" Baltimore. No they haven't. 

 

I was the biggest Peterman sucks guy going. I told people before that draft I didn't even think he was draftable. I was Peterman sucks before being Peterman sucks was cool. Of course McDermott is lucky to have Josh Allen. You don't win consistently in this league without top Quarterback play, no matter how good of a coach you are. The good ones keep teams around .500 without a good Quarterback. McDermott did that. Of course with a talent like Josh you have to win divisions (tick), make and ultimately win, Superbowls. Nobody is denying there is still a bridge to cross. Nor that McDermott at the coaches screwed up at the end in Kansas City. But you criticise him for things that are not legitimate criticisms because you have an agenda. You told us your agenda in September 2018. You were wrong with your prediction then and you are wrong with it now. 

I was right then, in that I think you should use proper punctuation. But also, that McD doesn’t know anything about offense. He uses Tolbert, gore, and now moss as short yardage or “change of pace” 

Edited October 3, 2022 by Rock-A-Bye Beasley

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

He held us back every playoff loss so far. It’s not only 13 seconds 

I was right then, in that I think you should use proper punctuation. But also, that McD doesn’t know anything about offense. He uses Tolbert, gore, and now moss as short yardage or “change of pace” 

 

There was nothing wrong with my punctuation. Maybe you should try, you know, reading? As for what you said then it included claiming there was not "a single reason not to be negative about the coach and GM." 

 

I think this is one where you might be better off taking the "L". 

Edited October 3, 2022 by GunnerBill

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

12 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Absolutely right.  Without Allen who knows where this team would be.  # never forget 48 games no 300 yard passing game (every team in this era does it a minimum 1X/yr).

 

Now I have too said McD has grown on me, however he is not perfect and his mistakes (or teams, sometime hard to differentiate) too have been colossal.

 

Yesterday Harbaugh made the right call on 4th down and Jackson didn't see a wide open receiver (busted Bills coverage?).

 

Buffalo showed that to be the case as they walked down the field quite easily (as they did most of the second half).  

I agree and he explained the reasoning. Unlike someone I know 

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

There was nothing wrong with my punctuation. Maybe you should try, you know, reading? As for what you said then it included claiming there was not "a single reason not to be negative about the coach and GM." 

 

I think this is one where you might be better off taking the "L". 

Huh? I’m confused. Not being facetious 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

I agree and he explained the reasoning. Unlike someone I know 

 

I agree too that Harbaugh made the right call going for it. Just to prove, by the way, that I am not arguing with you just to be contrarian. I only argue with you where I think you are wrong. 

 

If the Bills needed a touchdown at the end it is hard to believe they wouldn't have got it. The Ravens stopped them once all 2nd half. You have to try and put 7 up there and he might even have gone for 2 had they scored the touchdown. 

[Billsfan1972]

Again  McD has grown on me (yes I'll keep repeating this line), however like every coach he has his warts.  Great to win a close game after 7 losses where many could be blamed on coaching (in the last two minutes) in that time period.  

 

But this board have too many people with this mad crush on McD that I don't really get.  

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

 

Huh? I’m confused. Not being facetious 

 

That was one of your claims in your 2018 thread. You wanted someone to give you a single reason not to be negative about the GM and coach because you couldn't see one. 

Just now, Billsfan1972 said:

Again  McD has grown on me (yes I'll keep repeating this line), however like every coach he has his warts.  Great to win a close game after 7 losses where many could be blamed on coaching (in the last two minutes) in that time period.  

 

But this board have too many people with this mad crush on McD that I don't really get.  

 

Not many. Kansas City, definitely. Tampa, arguably (certainly the losing play in OT was on Leslie Frazier). As I set out last week four of the 7 can be traced directly to major offensive line breakdowns on drives to win the game.  That is on personnel, not coaching. 

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That was one of your claims in your 2018 thread. You wanted someone to give you a single reason not to be negative about the GM and coach because you couldn't see one. 

 

Not many. Kansas City, definitely. Tampa, arguably (certainly the losing play in OT was on Leslie Frazier). As I set out last week four of the 7 can be traced directly to major offensive line breakdowns on drives to win the game.  That is on personnel, not coaching. 

Ok it’s a miracle Josh worked out and I’ll kiss beane for taking a chance. I wanted Rosen based on draft experts’ scouting reports

 

bit it worked thanks to Josh working on himself

[SoCal Deek]

12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I agree too that Harbaugh made the right call going for it. Just to prove, by the way, that I am not arguing with you just to be contrarian. I only argue with you where I think you are wrong. 

 

If the Bills needed a touchdown at the end it is hard to believe they wouldn't have got it. The Ravens stopped them once all 2nd half. You have to try and put 7 up there and he might even have gone for 2 had they scored the touchdown. 

I’ll disagree. You kick the field goal and take the lead. If not, why/when do you ever kick a field goal then? You should always go for it. 

[Billsfan1972]

14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That was one of your claims in your 2018 thread. You wanted someone to give you a single reason not to be negative about the GM and coach because you couldn't see one. 

 

Not many. Kansas City, definitely. Tampa, arguably (certainly the losing play in OT was on Leslie Frazier). As I set out last week four of the 7 can be traced directly to major offensive line breakdowns on drives to win the game.  That is on personnel, not coaching. 

The constant is McD.  Tampa too if I remember there was the bad sequence to start OT (and a missed holding call on Diggs on third down too).  Vs. Tenn a bad spot on 3rd down was probably really what lost the game.  And I thought vs. Miami they did a poor job executing and time management.  No way should they not have gotten at least a fg attempt.   

 

Unfortunately too 13 seconds seared in my memory and McD (or the special teams or the defense, even calling two timeouts) made error after error.

Edited October 3, 2022 by Billsfan1972

[GunnerBill]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

I’ll disagree. You kick the field goal and take the lead. If not, why/when do you ever kick a field goal then? You should always go for it. 

 

In that situation you have to know the clock is a factor. If the Bills drive down and score you are not getting the chance to respond. So you only kick the FG if you trust your defense to stop Buffalo. The Ravens went into yesterday the 32nd defense in the NFL and had struggled to stop us all second half. I think kick the FG and trust my defense is the wrong approach in those circumstances. 

[Royale with Cheese]

50 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

david Culley was the QB coach. Nathan peterman was the starter. McDermott has no idea what he’s doing on offense. He’s lucky to have Josh Allen and that’s fine. Especially if he wanted him. 
 

edit: Bills have played Baltimore many times since

 

Not going to address that .621 winning percentage since you created that thread huh?

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said:

The constant is McD.  Tampa too if I remember there was the bad sequence to start OT (and a missed holding call on Diggs on third down too).  Vs. Tenn a bad spot on 3rd down was probably really what lost the game.  And I thought vs. Miami they did a poor job executing and time management.  No way should they not have gotten at least a fg attempt.   

 

KC and Tampa I am giving you. TEN was not a bad spot, it was an OL that got blown up. Miami they were in attemptable FG range at least and then the RT got beat and so committed a gratuitous holding penalty. In Jacksonville they gave up a terrible sack. At home to the Patriots Josh got hit on his last two pass attempts as he released the ball. The constant in four of those seven defeats is scrub OLine men getting beat and killing drives. 

[Billsfan1972]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

In that situation you have to know the clock is a factor. If the Bills drive down and score you are not getting the chance to respond. So you only kick the FG if you trust your defense to stop Buffalo. The Ravens went into yesterday the 32nd defense in the NFL and had struggled to stop us all second half. I think kick the FG and trust my defense is the wrong approach in those circumstances. 

Pretty much proven as the Bills walked down the field.  

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

KC and Tampa I am giving you. TEN was not a bad spot, it was an OL that got blown up. Miami they were in attemptable FG range at least and then the RT got beat and so committed a gratuitous holding penalty. In Jacksonville they gave up a terrible sack. At home to the Patriots Josh got hit on his last two pass attempts as he released the ball. The constant in four of those seven defeats is scrub OLine men getting beat and killing drives. 

On third down, Allen got the First Down and they spotted him short.