Wayne Arnold Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: The fact the Pegulas are absolutely committed to him. Their history of hiring competent coaches across two teams is extremely thin. They have hired one - Sean McDermott. He is not getting fired this year with another playoff season even if it is another gut wrenching playoff loss. The only way he is fired after this season is the team having a losing record. And even then if it is because we lose 10 or 11 starters to injury he will be safe. No one said anything about him being fired this season, to my knowledge. It's about the pressure on him going into 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, GunnerBill said: The fact the Pegulas are absolutely committed to him. Their history of hiring competent coaches across two teams is extremely thin. They have hired one - Sean McDermott. He is not getting fired this year with another playoff season even if it is another gut wrenching playoff loss. The only way he is fired after this season is the team having a losing record. And even then if it is because we lose 10 or 11 starters to injury he will be safe. Why do fans keep insisting they know what the Pegulas are thinking in regards to McDermott/Beane? Obviously after one loss nothing is going to change and nor should it, but there are many scenarios come January in which they could change their minds very quick which have been discussed on here. Also recent extensions mean nothing when it comes to NFL head coaches and GM's as there have been many canned within a year after signing them and both McD and Beane know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, What a Tuel said: Is it though? The dolphins offense were in fact on the field during the game and the defense did this. That was pretty impressive given the status of the defense. Punt 2:26 TD (off Josh Allen Fumble from 6 yard line) 1:36 TD 5:14 Punt 2:09 Punt 1:58 Punt 1:40 TD 4:04 Punt 0:13 Edit, I'll just add the drive times bc it shows the defense got the Miami offense off the field quickly. Well one of those punts was when tua went down and one was when the offense pinned them on the goal line late in the game and they were trying not to take too many risks. So realistically they scored tds on about half their possessions although one was a short field. Elam did a nice job on tyreek though so that’s a good sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Einstein said: The Dolphins averaged the same yards per play we did (5.4 vs 5.5). There is no getting around that. It’s a fact. They also scored more points than our offense. I would say the biggest difference in drives is that the Bills went for 3 fourth downs. Dolphins elected to punt in those situations instead. The Fins couldn’t gain more than 20 yards on 4 of their 7 drives and were gifted a TD on another drive. Most of their yards came on 2 plays - both against players that probably wouldn’t be on the field in any other circumstances. If you take away those 2 plays they averaged 2.1 YPP for the game. Take away Buffalo’s 2 biggest plays and they still averaged 5 YPP. As I have said before, Miami is a good team and they made every big play they had the opportunity to make yesterday. But they needed (1) to make every one of those plays, (2) the Bills to be short handed 7-10 starters at any given moment of the game, (3) Buffalo’s offense to make all the mistakes they made, and (4) Buffalo’s offense to be absolutely gassed in the 4th qtr because of the weather and being on the field so long - just to win by 2 points. Edited September 27, 2022 by billsfan1959 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Why do fans keep insisting they know what the Pegulas are thinking in regards to McDermott/Beane? Obviously after one loss nothing is going to change and nor should it, but there are many scenarios come January in which they could change their minds very quick which have been discussed on here. Also recent extensions mean nothing when it comes to NFL head coaches and GM's as there have been many canned within a year after signing them and both McD and Beane know that. Because some fans speak to people who have reason to have more than the average person's insight into what the situation within the organisation is. McDermott is on rock solid ground. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Based on what? Based on the idea that unknown coach x will not only put us in the position that both Beane and McDermott have put us in year after year consistently being in super bowl discussions, but win us super bowls. Put another way, why do you think unknown coach x will be better? Why rock that boat? We are competitive. I mean isn't it that only 2 head coaches have multiple super bowl wins this millennium? Do we really think we are trending the wrong direction to achieve at least one to just go ahead and blow it all up? Edited September 27, 2022 by What a Tuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: The problem is that the big plays against this defense happen at crucial moments, whether it's the playoffs in KC or moments that swing the momentum for good like Miami last week. This is why I maintain this team is never going to the promised land with McDermott. This defense always looks great on paper in terms of the overall stats, but it simply doesn't work when it matters most. And situational football awareness is simply not something McD can handle. Factoring in the 13 seconds in the KC game and the 3rd and 22 in The Mia game, I would have to say they are still much better at calling defensive game plans than you are at evaluating them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) My biggest issue with McDermott/Frazier defensive calls is not staying aggressive and attacking the other team. Instead they play passive and get beat on 3rd and longs constantly. This is not something new with this team and needs to be fixed. Force the QB to take the short play and make the tackle. Edited September 27, 2022 by billieve420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Einstein starting threads that are the polar opposite of his user name are becoming a theme 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, What a Tuel said: I guess I am not understanding why yards per play for our offense has anything to do with our depleted defense holding the vaunted dolphins offensive with "the 2 best receivers" to short drives resulting in punts? It was impressive regardless of a comparison to how our offense did? Was the Dolphins defense impressive to you on Sunday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 what kind of pornography would i have to post to get this shut down? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Because some fans speak to people who have reason to have more than the average person's insight into what the situation within the organisation is. McDermott is on rock solid ground. For someone on rock solid ground, he seems pretty tense. Remember when he cursed out that reporter at practice? He told the reporter that his livelihood was on the line (or something along those lines). That kind of stress makes me feel like he doesn’t feel that he is on such strong footing. Although that was a couple of years ago, so perhaps it was just a different time. Edited September 27, 2022 by Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 27 minutes ago, teef said: what kind of pornography would i have to post to get this shut down? Rob Lowe's sex tapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Einstein said: For someone on rock solid ground, he seems pretty tense. Remember when he cursed out that reporter at practice? He told the reporter that his livelihood was on the line (or something along those lines). That kind of stress makes me feel like he doesn’t feel that he is on such strong footing. Although that was a couple of years ago, so perhaps it was just a different time. That was pre-covid wasn't it? I think totally irrelevant to now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Rob Lowe's sex tapes. Oh…that’s not even close to being deviant enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, teef said: what kind of pornography would i have to post to get this shut down? 38 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Rob Lowe's sex tapes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said: Factoring in the 13 seconds in the KC game and the 3rd and 22 in The Mia game, I would have to say they are still much better at calling defensive game plans than you are at evaluating them. The fact that they're in these situations rarely is a testament to how well coached the team is. Regularly blowing out teams, even bad ones, is not a normal thing in the NFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, teef said: Oh…that’s not even close to being deviant enough. I'm pretty sure Rob Lowe has better hair than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Einstein said: Was the Dolphins defense impressive to you on Sunday? In the 1st half no, besides the turnover. We should have had minimum 17-7 lead at the half if it wasn't for our mistakes (missed field goal opportunity, and turnover in our own end - credit their defense for the turnover.) In the 2nd half, yes they were better than the first half on paper: 1) held us to a field goal 2) held us to a field goal attempt and subsequently tipped it for no points 3) stopped us 4 consecutive plays on the 2 yard line. a) singletary rush 1 yard b) Josh Allen run for -1 yard c) incomplete pass d) incomplete pass. 4) stopped our game winning drive Blame our 2nd half offensive failure on the heat and exhaustion and depletion or whatever which is fine, I dont necessarily think their defense is top notch, but it doesn't mean our defense was bad, so i don't get the comparison. Edited September 27, 2022 by What a Tuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'm pretty sure Rob Lowe has better hair than you. my hair is pretty fantastic, but i am younger than rob. i'm sure my lawn is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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