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2022 MVP Race: Division Road Win (30 TDs, 15 TOs, 333 YPG & 64.1% Comp %-- Pats talk 37+)


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6 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Why are you so miserable? Sheesh. 

Stop responding. He's a troll. He's only here to spam post and try to get attention. Should have been permanently banned a long time ago.

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Do all the declarations that "the race is over!!!" stand or may we wait until the end of the season?

 

Yes Allen’s behind. But Mahomes was pretty underwhelming today.

 

Allen’s only 2 TDs and just over 100 total yards under and 4 INTs over Mahomes right now.

 

Naysayers??? Still over????

 

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It isn’t over, but Mahomes would need a couple pedestrian games and Allen would have to stop turning it over.

 

Considering KC’s offense seems to be tailor-made to pump up Mahomes’ stats as much as possible, and the Bills seem to be looking for more balance down the stretch, I don’t think it’s likely.

 

Not to mention the Bills have a much harder remaining schedule of defenses IMO.

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Just now, DapperCam said:

It isn’t over, but Mahomes would need a couple pedestrian games and Allen would have to stop turning it over.

 

Considering KC’s offense seems to be tailor-made to pump up Mahomes’ stats as much as possible, and the Bills seem to be looking for more balance down the stretch, I don’t think it’s likely.

 

Not to mention the Bills have a much harder remaining schedule of defenses IMO.

Plus all of our remaining games are outdoors in cold weather cities 

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21 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

It isn’t over, but Mahomes would need a couple pedestrian games and Allen would have to stop turning it over.

 

Considering KC’s offense seems to be tailor-made to pump up Mahomes’ stats as much as possible, and the Bills seem to be looking for more balance down the stretch, I don’t think it’s likely.

 

Not to mention the Bills have a much harder remaining schedule of defenses IMO.


I totally agree Mahomes is the favorite for those reasons. Let Mahomes win MVP, MVP hasn’t won a Super Bowl in 20 years. I’d be very surprised if that Chiefs team makes it out of the AFC this year.

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1 hour ago, DapperCam said:

It isn’t over, but Mahomes would need a couple pedestrian games and Allen would have to stop turning it over.

 

Considering KC’s offense seems to be tailor-made to pump up Mahomes’ stats as much as possible, and the Bills seem to be looking for more balance down the stretch, I don’t think it’s likely.

 

Not to mention the Bills have a much harder remaining schedule of defenses IMO.

 

In reality I think Allen would just need to keep pace where he is mostly and get the #1 seed.

1 hour ago, Process said:

Plus all of our remaining games are outdoors in cold weather cities 

 

Didn't much matter for us last year in the playoffs, did it?

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Looking at the passing stats on NFL.com this morning. Mahomes is clearly in the lead for MVP.

 

He's better in every category, except longest passing play. More TD's, less interceptions.

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We are finally getting to the good stretch of the season where MVP will be decided. As always, the favorites are the two QB's currently leading the #1 seeds in each conference. That's essentially been the MVP race for the last two decades. Bills can regain the #1 seed this week with a win and losses by the Chiefs and Dolphins.

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1. Patrick Mahomes -140
2. Jalen Hurts +350
3. Tua Tagovailoa +600
4. Josh Allen +1100
5. Joe Burrow +1700
6. Lamar Jackson +4700
7. Geno Smith +6000
8. Kirk Cousins +7500
9. Justin Jefferson +7500
10. Tyreek Hill +11000

 

As of today. 

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2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I don’t say this as a Bills homer, but I don’t understand the Jalen Hurts love. He’s a good QB, but not MVP level. The Eagles have an all around solid football team. Hurts throws for under 200 yards most games. 

 

Got to factor in the rushing with Hurts too. He had a 147 yard rushing game last night which in terms of rarity is probably the equivalent of like a 500 yard passing game. And the most important ingredient for the MVP is team record and more importantly conference seeding.  

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JA currently leads the league in YPA rushing (6.9) for the second consecutive season (6.3 last year). Will be interesting to see where he finishes the year. Many of us thought entering this season Allen would maybe have a career low in rushing yards. But looks like he is going to have a career high in rushing yards by quite a bit. He's only 202 yards behind his career high last year of 763 yards and has 6 games left. He's likely to go over 800 yards rushing. 

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8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

In reality I think Allen would just need to keep pace where he is mostly and get the #1 seed.

 

Didn't much matter for us last year in the playoffs, did it?

He’s on pace for 17 INTs and 4 lost fumbles. No way he wins with those stats. He essentially can’t have anymore turnovers the rest of the year to have a realistic shot at it.

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3 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

Got to factor in the rushing with Hurts too. He had a 147 yard rushing game last night which in terms of rarity is probably the equivalent of like a 500 yard passing game. And the most important ingredient for the MVP is team record and more importantly conference seeding.  

That’s fair, and you’re correct in pointing out the team aspect of the MVP award. I’m not advocating for Josh to be the winner, but I can’t help comparing everyone to Mahomes and Allen. If Hurts is the QB of the Bills, I think our record is much worse. I don’t see him carrying a team in the way other QB’s have. 

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5 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

I don’t say this as a Bills homer, but I don’t understand the Jalen Hurts love. He’s a good QB, but not MVP level. The Eagles have an all around solid football team. Hurts throws for under 200 yards most games. 

Hurts is averaging 232.7 passing yards, 54.3 rushing (so nearly 300 total yards/game), has 25 tds, & 3 ints. He’s been really, really good and does a great job in that system. He definitely deserves to be in the mvp conversation.

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4 hours ago, DapperCam said:

He’s on pace for 17 INTs and 4 lost fumbles. No way he wins with those stats. He essentially can’t have anymore turnovers the rest of the year to have a realistic shot at it.

 

Allen had 3 consecutive games of 2 Interceptions.  Do you really think that's characteristic of Josh Allen at this point?

 

Then last week he had 3 TDs and 1 Interception.  If he were to maintain the pace of what he did in the Lions game he'll end the year approaching 50 TDs with roughly a 3 TD to 1 turnover pace.  Considering the yardage pace he's on, that could be fine if the team keeps winning.

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2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Hurts is averaging 232.7 passing yards, 54.3 rushing (so nearly 300 total yards/game), has 25 tds, & 3 ints. He’s been really, really good and does a great job in that system. He definitely deserves to be in the mvp conversation.

 

He also has 2 lost fumbles, so 5 turnovers, but yeah he should be in the conversation.  But the percentage of offense he is in Philly is a pretty far cry from Allen or Mahomes.  Allen averages over 50 yards more per game this season.

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5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

He also has 2 lost fumbles, so 5 turnovers, but yeah he should be in the conversation.  But the percentage of offense he is in Philly is a pretty far cry from Allen or Mahomes.  Allen averages over 50 yards more per game this season.

Yeah, Hurts has been very good. He deserves a lot of credit, but I just can’t imagine him being this good without the perfect set of circumstances. I view Mahomes and Allen as once in a lifetime players who can carry a franchise, while Hurts is a major contributor to a very good football team. I don’t mean to take anything away from Hurts, I just think he’s somewhere in the second tier of greatness. People forget that football is the ultimate team game, and QB’s need help too. 

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3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Hurts is averaging 232.7 passing yards, 54.3 rushing (so nearly 300 total yards/game), has 25 tds, & 3 ints. He’s been really, really good and does a great job in that system. He definitely deserves to be in the mvp conversation.

He’s been much better than I realized. It’s likely my bias against the Eagles, but for some reason I envision Allen and Mahomes playing at a high level five years from now. I’d be surprised to see Hurts doing the same, yet I have no idea why I feel that way. It could be the Eagles franchise history of extreme ups and downs, or maybe Hurts strange career at Bama. 

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