london_bills Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, davefan66 said: I believe he should not have been the first Bills person to speak publicly about the allegations. I’m sure that played into his emotions. Sean is a stand up guy who expects everyone around him to also be. I believe he feels he was lied to by MA regarding the facts. The kind of person he is, breaking his trust is devastating. I didn't think he was lied to by a player. But that probably is right 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, davefan66 said: I believe he should not have been the first Bills person to speak publicly about the allegations. I’m sure that played into his emotions. Sean is a stand up guy who expects everyone around him to also be. I believe he feels he was lied to by MA regarding the facts. The kind of person he is, breaking his trust is devastating. I think right here right now the bills need to close ranks and I think that pushes araiza out i’ve been giving a lot of thought about this over last night today and I am a innocent until proven guilty person but there’s something bothering me in this that makes it OK if they release him he did have sex with this girl even if he didn’t rape her and she was underage and yes she might’ve been telling everybody she was 18 but he should’ve been smarter than that given that he was about to be going into the NFL NFL players should keep very close circles of friends because of things like this and then of course if he is guilty of everything Then deserves everything he gets 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, davefan66 said: I believe he should not have been the first Bills person to speak publicly about the allegations. I’m sure that played into his emotions. Sean is a stand up guy who expects everyone around him to also be. I believe he feels he was lied to by MA regarding the facts. The kind of person he is, breaking his trust is devastating. I think it goes beyond MA. I think he feels whoever had been delegated the responsibility of investigating, both this summer and of vetting Araiza pre-draft, let him and the organization down. And I think he did not buy into the statement the organization put out and the strategy it implies. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, badassgixxer05 said: Yeah, road locker. this would make sense. Makes me wonder if other guys who weren't dressed had plates installed on their lockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Brandon better be speaking tomorrow cause this looks bad on every front and I’ll say again, watching mcds presser had me feeling like beane may have lied to him or kept him in the dark. Really hope that’s not the case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, RiotAct said: polygraphs are WILDLY inaccurate. where did you hear that from??? They have been proven to be over 80% accurate. To call them “WILDY inaccurate “ is a false narrative 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: I get a weird feeling that there is something else bothering McD about this. He needs to snap out of it, trim the roster, get a punter/holder and get ready for the season. Someone else (Beane and the legal department) in the organization should be working the issue of getting the information they need. I think the problem right now is that McDermott feels let down by someone in the organization who was working the investigation, and also not aligned with the statement they put out, so he feels a responsibility to go hands-on. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Asked this earlier but could we put him on the practice squad until he is cleared/settles or charged/sentenced? this is all the problems, none of the benefits, 100% makes 0 sense imho. they cant be seen as wavering. either they have the ultimate trump card of innocence (mcds presser tells me no), or 801am, hes gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just1hugheser Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 5 hours ago, just1hugheser said: I doubt McD did a lot of research into it by which I mean he trusts the info he is getting from others, the article said the bills investigated it thoroughly but also said there she reported it the day after and has a ton of evidence, so it looks to me like whoever the Bills put in charge of investigating this situation seriously dropped the ball unless all her evidence/claims turn out bogus. Whoever did the 'thorough investigation' should be hung out to dry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, davefan66 said: I believe he should not have been the first Bills person to speak publicly about the allegations. I’m sure that played into his emotions. Sean is a stand up guy who expects everyone around him to also be. I believe he feels he was lied to by MA regarding the facts. The kind of person he is, breaking his trust is devastating. Personally, that doesn't jive with his first statement. Specifically the part where McDermott says that his "heart and prayers go out to all involved, and that includes Matt..." This came on the heels of the Skurski question about Matt being a great kid. Is there a chance that the Bills know more information and that Ariza is being slandered and McD is angry at that? (I'm not saying that's the case) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, BillsSbSoon said: Brandon better be speaking tomorrow cause this looks bad on every front and I’ll say again, watching mcds presser had me feeling like beane may have lied to him or kept him in the dark. Really hope that’s not the case Could be one of those "we're on it, we'll handle it" situations and it very much wasn't handled. I'm pretty sure the Bills are gonna have some new background investigating people and a new West Coast area scout pretty soon. Let's hope it doesn't put a wedge between the coach and the front office because I can see how it could. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Is bojo available? his wiki says Browns, otherwise this is a no brainer if cutting loose 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsSbSoon said: Brandon better be speaking tomorrow cause this looks bad on every front and I’ll say again, watching mcds presser had me feeling like beane may have lied to him or kept him in the dark. Really hope that’s not the case I don’t think Beane would do that. I do agree with others that he’s not happy with the results of the PI’s investigation. Maybe that’s were a differing of opinions happened? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, StHustle said: where did you hear that from??? They have been proven to be over 80% accurate. To call them “WILDY inaccurate “ is a false narrative I've also read modern ones can be between 80-90% accurate. But I bet a lot depends on who's asking the questions and reading the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, nkreed said: Personally, that doesn't jive with his first statement. Specifically the part where McDermott says that his "heart and prayers go out to all involved, and that includes Matt..." This came on the heels of the Skurski question about Matt being a great kid. Is there a chance that the Bills know more information and that Ariza is being slandered and McD is angry at that? (I'm not saying that's the case) That's probably in the realm of .0001% likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Someone lied to him is what I think. Yes, it sounded like that could be. Or someone didn’t provide all the information. Edited August 27, 2022 by Bob in STL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, just1hugheser said: Whoever did the 'thorough investigation' should be hung out to dry Throwing people under the bus publically has never been McDermott's MO, but part of my take on McDermott's presser is that McDermott (within the last 24 hrs) has reason to believe that the investigation was not sufficiently thorough or independent OR results were not shared completely/neutrally, and he is furious about that. Quietly, after the problem is solved and the team moves forward, heads will roll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, StHustle said: where did you hear that from??? They have been proven to be over 80% accurate. To call them “WILDY inaccurate “ is a false narrative Polygraphs are not accurate and not admissible in court because of their inaccuracies 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, nkreed said: Personally, that doesn't jive with his first statement. Specifically the part where McDermott says that his "heart and prayers go out to all involved, and that includes Matt..." This came on the heels of the Skurski question about Matt being a great kid. Is there a chance that the Bills know more information and that Ariza is being slandered and McD is angry at that? (I'm not saying that's the case) I think it's very telling that McDermott was asked straight out whether he thinks Matt lied to him and he said "I'm not going to get into that". I think if he felt the answer was "No, Never" he'd have said so. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Polygraphs are not accurate and not admissible in court because of their inaccuracies Civil court is a bit different, though, innit? Not sure how admissibility is different there, if at all, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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