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2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

Look what happened when Davis got the snaps in the playoffs that he should’ve been getting all season. He had one of the best playoff performances we’ve seen in years.

 

You can say it won’t take snaps away from him but it absolutely will. There is no way Sanders should’ve been taking snaps away from Davis last season but he did…

Plus we have a pretty deep collection of pass catchers already. There’s only so many passes to go around.


Who’s snaps would you give to OBJ if not Davis? Diggs? They gotta come from somewhere.

 

I also feel like if we put another veteran WR in front of Davis this season, he’s as good as gone in free agency. And who would blame him?

 

He put in possibly more work this offseason than any other bills player. He’s earned the right to get first crack at the #2 role. OBJ is hurt. He won’t be back till after the regular season starts anyway. I’d rather give davis the chance at that #2 role first and sign OBJ if davis struggles.

 

I just think we have other more pressing needs to use our very limited cap space for. But again, if we sign OBJ I won’t complain. I don’t think he’s a diva or anything like that. He’s supposed to be an excellent teammate. I do think he’d fit the culture here. I’d just rather give Davis the #2 role is all. I honestly think he has the potential to be a #1 caliber WR. I’m very high on Davis.


Even if OBJ was signed tomorrow, Davis will have half a season to show himself.   If he is the great player everybody wants to think he is, he will have no problem showing it.  
 

The only reason Davis had the game he did against KC was the choice of the D to take away Diggs and Knox and make somebody else beat them.  Davis had a great game, but it was because KC bet he couldn’t do it and he did.  End of the day, KC still won, so they were right(ish).   McKenzie had a 200 yard game against the Fins and he’s never come close again, one game, especially one that’s an obvious outlier is not something I consider anything to put much stock in.

 

I know people want to claim sanders took away Davis’ opportunities, but that’s just not true.  Sanders was a non factor most of the year, especially the second half of the year.  He had a whole 42 catches for the year, Davis had more opportunities than Sanders did and if Davis wasn’t doing enough to over take a gimpy Sanders, it says something.   Davis didn’t have a game over 5 catches and broke 100 yards one time (on 3 catches), just once the whole year.  He has been a complimentary player at best thus far.  OBJ is a bonafide #1 and a super star, if you can add him and he takes away snaps from Davis, oh well.  Davis has not shown he is a difference maker.  I like him, I hope he steps up big, but there is absolutely NOTHING to suggest he deserves to be handed the top spot behind Diggs. 

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5 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


I mean, AB was fine with the Steelers and also fine for a while with the Bucs. 
 

my buddy who is a Steelers fan always has warned me that with these number 1 receivers, there is always a risk that it can go off the rails, especially if things aren’t going their way. I think that is a good point. 
 

would that happen to OBJ here? I don’t know. But with the talent we have and OBJ coming off another ACL, I am not a fan of rolling the dice. 

I wouldn't give him a multi year deal but if Beane says here's 2.5 million guaranteed with incentives to get up to 5 million for this year to prove you still have it so you can strike it rich in free agency next year.  Why not?  Also, he's more sane than Antonio Brown so it's a little unfair to lump him in with him.

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23 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said:

Crowder has been hurt for most of training camp. If we lose one more receiver, we will likely need to add a free agent. The only way that guy is OBJ is if we restructure Tre or sign Edmunds long term to lower his cap hit.

 

There's still the possibility that Tre is not ready for the start of the season and we need to add a veteran cb, so we may need to save money for that possibility.

 

Considering he may not be available until November it will not cost as much as you think.

If Buffalo is doing well he will hop on bandwagon to demonstrate next year he is worthy of a big contract.

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I'd only be down for it if Diggs were down for it.

 

I know most people really only factor in the coaching staff & possibly QB's input (if they're a star player), but if this could disrupt the chemistry & confidence of Diggs with Allen & the team, I'd stay far away from it.

 

But if Diggs has a good relationship with OBJ already, then go for it.

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9 hours ago, DCofNC said:


Even if OBJ was signed tomorrow, Davis will have half a season to show himself.   If he is the great player everybody wants to think he is, he will have no problem showing it.  
 

The only reason Davis had the game he did against KC was the choice of the D to take away Diggs and Knox and make somebody else beat them.  Davis had a great game, but it was because KC bet he couldn’t do it and he did.  End of the day, KC still won, so they were right(ish).   McKenzie had a 200 yard game against the Fins and he’s never come close again, one game, especially one that’s an obvious outlier is not something I consider anything to put much stock in.

 

I know people want to claim sanders took away Davis’ opportunities, but that’s just not true.  Sanders was a non factor most of the year, especially the second half of the year.  He had a whole 42 catches for the year, Davis had more opportunities than Sanders did and if Davis wasn’t doing enough to over take a gimpy Sanders, it says something.   Davis didn’t have a game over 5 catches and broke 100 yards one time (on 3 catches), just once the whole year.  He has been a complimentary player at best thus far.  OBJ is a bonafide #1 and a super star, if you can add him and he takes away snaps from Davis, oh well.  Davis has not shown he is a difference maker.  I like him, I hope he steps up big, but there is absolutely NOTHING to suggest he deserves to be handed the top spot behind Diggs. 

Except on the current roster, none have stepped up to prove Davis is the wrong choice.🤷🏼‍♂️ Maybe OBJ, don’t regain form or takes longer to recover fully and his being on the field is just that…on the field. What’s gained on that front. 
I’d like him if he can help, I don’t care if it’s OBJ or Ray Rice a Super Bowl win would be amazing and make people forget a lot of bad things. 

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Absent someone else not being available for a playoff run, not sure how he would be able to contribute much this year and he would surely only be a Nov-forward player for a 1 year deal. Wouldn't have timing down or know the playbook. Seems like a waste of cash. Rams are for sure his best bet at playing this year. 

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18 hours ago, DCofNC said:


 

The only reason Davis had the game he did against KC was the choice of the D to take away Diggs and Knox and make somebody else beat them.  Davis had a great game, but it was because KC bet he couldn’t do it and he did.  End of the day, KC still won, so they were right(ish).

Davis had 201 yards receiving, 4 TDs. If the Chiefs had flipped the strategy, do you expect Diggs to have more yards ??

The offense left the field with the lead and 13 seconds on the clock. KC didnt win because of their D plan against the Bills WRs. Period. "ish" or not

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9 hours ago, WyoAZBillfan said:

Except on the current roster, none have stepped up to prove Davis is the wrong choice.🤷🏼‍♂️ Maybe OBJ, don’t regain form or takes longer to recover fully and his being on the field is just that…on the field. What’s gained on that front. 
I’d like him if he can help, I don’t care if it’s OBJ or Ray Rice a Super Bowl win would be amazing and make people forget a lot of bad things. 

And Davis has shown he’s the right choice? EJ Manuel was a hard worker.. just sayin.

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1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Davis had 201 yards receiving, 4 TDs. If the Chiefs had flipped the strategy, do you expect Diggs to have more yards ??

The offense left the field with the lead and 13 seconds on the clock. KC didnt win because of their D plan against the Bills WRs. Period. "ish" or not

I would absolutely expect Diggs to have his numbers, Diggs put up 2x what Davis did all year, would you expect Diggs to not get it done?

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8 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

I would absolutely expect Diggs to have his numbers, Diggs put up 2x what Davis did all year, would you expect Diggs to not get it done?

You said that KC's strategy was to take Diggs and Knox out and hence Davis got his numbers. You also claimed KC's strategy worked. Dont punt this back to me, I was challenging that contention. 

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I can't say that given the right circumstances that OBJ would or wouldn't be a good addition but if he was brought in now someone would suffer a loss of touches & looking at who we have i'm not sure that would be a good thing ?? Maybe ??

 

Then there is the money side of things not sure how much more magic Beane has left in his bag . They say OBJ is a good team mate but his antics while with the Giants really soured me toward him i would rather run with what we have because i think it is a very talented bunch & Davis can & will do very well this year .

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2 hours ago, DCofNC said:

And Davis has shown he’s the right choice? EJ Manuel was a hard worker.. just sayin.

He’s shown he can perform certainly. Is there another solution on the roster? EJ, not sure the relevance, compared apples and oranges in jobs🤷🏼‍♂️

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