Bimmer323i Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 2:09 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said: Yeah, probably 20 times. People tend to say QBs are bad in the playoffs when they go a lot but lose. Which so far is Josh Allen. The narrative will start changing every time he goes and loses. He’s won 12. Expand He’s also been in the league for 50 f’en years to Quote
chris heff Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 Setting aside the who is better than whom discussion, the title of this thread gave me a thought. Let’s add a name to the stadium, Yeates Field at Highmark Stadium. Named after Cardinal O’Hara great Jeff Yeates, drafted out of Boston College by the Bills in the fourth round of 1973 draft, spent three years with the Bills, eight years with Falcons. Just a thought. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 1:25 PM, NewEra said: I remember that team. You said they were extreme over achievers the previous season and weren’t that good. Expand 2019. I'm referencing about 2020--very good team, best Offense-and Rodgers was still crying (some here sided with his "no weapons" nonsense). As most of us suspected, we all now know it was an act to get his money. Quote
NewEra Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 2:40 PM, Mr. WEO said: 2019. I'm referencing about 2020--very good team, best Offense-and Rodgers was still crying (some here sided with his "no weapons" nonsense). As most of us suspected, we all now know it was an act to get his money. Expand Yes…..that’s why I said the “previous season”……. you said that they would regress as it was obvious the 2019 team overachieved. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 2:43 PM, NewEra said: Yes…..that’s why I said the “previous season”……. you said that they would regress as it was obvious the 2019 team overachieved. Expand OoPS!--they didn't. Turns out the were loaded with talent on Offense by 2020, despite the Jordan Love pick, which had no impact whatsoever Quote
NewEra Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 3:27 PM, Mr. WEO said: OoPS!--they didn't. Turns out the were loaded with talent on Offense by 2020, despite the Jordan Love pick, which had no impact whatsoever Expand They didn’t win the super bowl…..you have no idea what would’ve happened if they would drafted 2 players with the 2 picks used on Love. 1 1 Quote
Walking Tall Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 12:22 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said: I love it but Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes are still the scariest in my opinion. Allen right there close to them. Expand When Mahomes and Rodgers start trucking d-linemen and LBers, get back to me with scary. 1 2 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 3:31 PM, NewEra said: They didn’t win the super bowl…..you have no idea what would’ve happened if they would drafted 2 players with the 2 picks used on Love. Expand win it?? they didn't even play in it---the MVP choked. lol. Name any 2 draft picks in your head and he still throws that TD pass into the dirt instead of running, Josh-like, into the EZ. you keep dying on this hill and Rodgers only laughs.... Quote
NewEra Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 3:41 PM, Mr. WEO said: win it?? they didn't even play in it---the MVP choked. lol. Name any 2 draft picks in your head and he still throws that TD pass into the dirt instead of running, Josh-like, into the EZ. you keep dying on this hill and Rodgers only laughs.... Expand Let’s not act like LaFleur didn’t choke…..he clearly made the wrong decision…..but it’s only on Rodgers. Riiiight. tristan wirfs was one of the reasons the Bucs offense had so much success. Winfield made huge plays all season. in a one possession game, no one knows what kind of impact a 1st rd draft pick that actually suited up would have had. meanwhile….Jordan Love blows. Great pick. Any draft pick would’ve helped that team more than Love did. 1 1 1 Quote
Buffalo03 Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 4:30 AM, cle23 said: I love how if you dare mention anyone over Allen, you just get downvoted into oblivion. Expand I think it's because it Rodgers. If it were Mahomes, I think some may actually agree 1 Quote
ROCBillsBeliever Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 1:02 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: To this point I think it was Allen who knocked out Tyrann Mathieu when they collided last year in the postseason right? Has there ever been another instance of a QB taking a defensive player out of the game? Expand Jimbo did it, in his prime: Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 2:40 PM, Mr. WEO said: 2019. I'm referencing about 2020--very good team, best Offense-and Rodgers was still crying (some here sided with his "no weapons" nonsense). As most of us suspected, we all now know it was an act to get his money. Expand I admit I was one of his apologists due to his excellence on the field (in regular season games anyway). But his act has worn thin 1 Quote
wjag Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 I have no problem with the premise: How many QBs can you name that can do all of this in any game: - rush for TD - pass for TD - receive a TD - leap a defender - stiff arm a DL into ground - run over a safety - rush for 100 yards - pass for 300 yards - evade a pass rusher who has him dead to rights - throw late across the middle on the run 1 1 Quote
Doc Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 3:27 PM, Mr. WEO said: OoPS!--they didn't. Turns out the were loaded with talent on Offense by 2020, despite the Jordan Love pick, which had no impact whatsoever Expand Yeah, that was the problem. It was a bad/wasted pick then and an even worse pick in hindsight. 1 Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 12:57 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: The league MVP is also on like 20+ year drought of winning Super Bowl as well. I'm hoping Allen breaks that drought because I really want him to win MVP. Expand because it went to a popularity contest. Was Aaron really that spectacular? When they speak of QB comps today it’s how they compare to JA17 can they improve to become a superstar like JA17? Quote
DCofNC Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 1:32 PM, cle23 said: That's like saying Allen should put up the same stats without Diggs. If Mahomes does the same without Hill, he's probably QB1 in the league. Expand Diggs is not the game changer Hill is. If you single Diggs, he’ll get a catch. Single Hill and you worry he takes it to the house. Diggs is a really good player, Hill is a different level of game breaker. I would expect Allen to do comparable damage without Diggs, Hill changes the way teams play you. I think Hill will be sorely missed in KC. I do believe Pat will be fine, but that’s because he is one of the best in the biz. Quote
blacklabel Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 I don't mean to seem disparaging but the woman (I'm unfamiliar with her) seems smug as heck. It's tough not to think Josh is one of the most fearsome players to face in the league. Not only does the dude have a rocket where his right arm is supposed to be, he's as big as a gotdang yeti and he's deceptively fast. Defenders see him take off and think, "Oh, I took a bad angle but shoot, I can catch him... *Josh zips past* oh crap, maybe I can't." On top of this the kid has really learned the game, understands defenses much better, knows where the ball needs to go, has that field general awareness now where he knows what everyone is supposed to be doing... he has a belief that he's a special type of player, he has a work ethic that won't let him quit even after he brings home eleven championships. He's extremely determined and I think with all of that combined, yeah, it makes him more threatning that Rodgers and Mahomes. Rodgers might scramble here and there but his running isn't anything defenses generally worry about. Obviously both he and Mahomes can pick a defense apart and while Josh has really quit with the heroball almost completely, Mahomes still falls back into those old habits like we saw in the second half against the Bengals. Quote
Stank_Nasty Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 8:25 PM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: because it went to a popularity contest. Was Aaron really that spectacular? When they speak of QB comps today it’s how they compare to JA17 can they improve to become a superstar like JA17? Expand Rodgers has been absolutely phenomenal the last 2 regular seasons. He 100% deserved that award each of the last 2 seasons. Let’s not forget it’s a regular season award and it went to exactly who it should have. …. And that’s not me taking anything away from our guy. Whom I absolutely love and would pick over ANY qb going into the next decade. Quote
The Wiz Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) On 7/17/2022 at 5:49 PM, wjag said: I have no problem with the premise: How many QBs can you name that can do all of this in any game: - rush for TD - pass for TD - receive a TD - leap a defender - stiff arm a DL into ground - run over a safety - rush for 100 yards - pass for 300 yards - evade a pass rusher who has him dead to rights - throw late across the middle on the run Expand How come he doesn't have any no look passes on his resume? (I'm too lazy to do the every other cap thing) Edited July 17, 2022 by The Wiz Quote
Buffalo716 Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 9:15 PM, The Wiz said: How come he doesn't have any no look passes on his resume? (I'm too lazy to do the every other cap thing) Expand I’ve definitely seen Josh throw a no look pass too fyi Quote
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