Matt Barkley Back? (Yep! deal not yet known)

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

By all accounts, Webb is a great athlete, highly intelligent and was like an actual extra coach for the Bills---and they still felt they didn't have a spot in the organization for 2022. 

 

Barkley?....well he's pals with JA. 3 different teams last season found no value in his "locker room help" to be worth keeping on their PS. 

 

By your own logic, it would have made far more sense to keep Webb than to bring back Barkley.  Swapping those 2 makes a lot of sense to you?

We didn’t swap Davis Webb for Barkley.  Davis Webb made a decision to leave Buffalo to have a chance to continue his career as a QB. It had nada to do with Buffalo choosing barkley, Webb CHOSE to leave. 
 

I’d have rather had a Davis Webb back because he’s more athletic.

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

We didn’t swap Davis Webb for Barkley.  Davis Webb made a decision to leave Buffalo to have a chance to continue his career as a QB. It had nada to do with Buffalo choosing barkley, Webb CHOSE to leave. 
 

I’d have rather had a Davis Webb back because he’s more athletic.

 

 

 

Taylor's signing means Webb's career as QB won't advance in NYG.  Webb knew he wouldn't be there #2 after FA started.  Given that he surely knew this, I'm sure he would have entertained staying with a winning organization and maybe get a ring.

 

Anyway, why would the Bills let a guy with all those attributes even as a PS guy  go and then weeks later, be considering bringing a guy like   Barkley in that same role? Why would Daboll pick Webb for his "locker room help" and not Barkley?  Clearly  the only reason left to have any interest in MB at this point is that he's JA's pal.  And as I first said, it's not a reason you pay a guy. 

[NewEra]

15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Taylor's signing means Webb's career as QB won't advance in NYG.  Webb knew he wouldn't be there #2 after FA started.  Given that he surely knew this, I'm sure he would have entertained staying with a winning organization and maybe get a ring.

 

Anyway, why would the Bills let a guy with all those attributes even as a PS guy  go and then weeks later, be considering bringing a guy like   Barkley in that same role? Why would Daboll pick Webb for his "locker room help" and not Barkley?  Clearly  the only reason left to have any interest in MB at this point is that he's JA's pal.  And as I first said, it's not a reason you pay a guy. 

Webb chose NYG before Taylor joined.  He said that the bills offered him a coaching job to mentor josh but he declined because he wanted to continue his qb career.  He turned us down because he didn’t want to be a coach and wanted to continue to try and play.  
 

I don’t know the answer to any of the questions you asked.  Either do you.  But you can pretend to know that the only reason barkley would be back is because he’s friends with josh.  When was the last time you sat in a room with josh and Matt and watched them dissect film?  Barkley has been in the nfl for almost a decade….and he has no mobility….a questionable arm and meh accuracy.  Taking that into consideration, one would assume he knows how to study film we’ll,  read defenses and other intricacies of being an nfl qb.  Not just being a best friend

[Mr. WEO]

40 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Webb chose NYG before Taylor joined.  He said that the bills offered him a coaching job to mentor josh but he declined because he wanted to continue his qb career.  He turned us down because he didn’t want to be a coach and wanted to continue to try and play.  
 

I don’t know the answer to any of the questions you asked.  Either do you.  But you can pretend to know that the only reason barkley would be back is because he’s friends with josh.  When was the last time you sat in a room with josh and Matt and watched them dissect film?  Barkley has been in the nfl for almost a decade….and he has no mobility….a questionable arm and meh accuracy.  Taking that into consideration, one would assume he knows how to study film we’ll,  read defenses and other intricacies of being an nfl qb.  Not just being a best friend

 

Webb certainly knew, before the Giants offered him a futures/reserve contract, that they were going to sign someone else as backup.  He will be on their PS, so, yeah, that is continuing his QB career.  

 

And first of all, Mitch Trubisky is Josh's new best friend.  Second,  no, I haven't seen Matt Barkley (6 seasons is not "almost a decade") dissect  film, but I'm going to go way out on a limb and conclude that Keenum, a guy now 10 seasons (which is actually a decade) in the NFL with 64 starts on 6 teams in both Conferences will be able dissect film and share with Josh how he has actually prepared to play opponents as a starter, far better than terminal scrub Barkley.

 

I mean did I really even have to type that? 

 

So he doesn't even bring value there.

Edited March 19, 2022 by Mr. WEO

[BillsFanForever19]

17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Webb certainly knew, before the Giants offered him a futures/reserve contract, that they were going to sign someone else as backup.  He will be on their PS, so, yeah, that is continuing his QB career.  

 

And first of all, Mitch Trubisky is Josh's new best friend.  Second,  no, I haven't seen Matt Barkley (6 seasons is not "almost a decade") dissect  film, but I'm going to go way out on a limb and conclude that Keenum, a guy now 10 seasons (which is actually a decade) in the NFL with 64 starts on 6 teams in both Conferences will be able dissect film and share with Josh how he has actually prepared to play opponents as a starter, far better than terminal scrub Barkley.

 

I mean did I really even have to type that? 

 

So he doesn't even bring value there.

 

Dude... we're talking about the Practice Squad QB. His job is to be another arm in Training Camp, Pre-Season, practice throughout the season, and be another set of eyes in the QB room You're going on this rampage about a guy who is NEVER going to see the field during the regular season.

 

We're surely paying him as little money as humanly possible and what are you expecting for that role? Were you a massive Davis Webb fan who felt he offered that much more? He had this very role last season for other teams. And there's no guarantee he's even going to be the only QB on the PS as we spent most of last season with Davis Webb and Jake Fromm there. Might still be another late round pick or UDFA.

 

Man, if this is that important to you, I'd hate to see your opinions on who the team chooses to be their 9th Offensive Lineman or 6th Linebacker on the 53.

Edited March 19, 2022 by BillsFanForever19

[Mr. WEO]

9 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Dude... we're talking about the Practice Squad QB. His job is to be another arm in Training Camp, Pre-Season, practice throughout the season, and be another set of eyes in the QB room You're going on this rampage about a guy who is NEVER going to see the field during the regular season.

 

We're surely paying him as little money as humanly possible and what are you expecting for that role? Were you a massive Davis Webb fan who felt he offered that much more? He had this very role last season for other teams. And there's no guarantee he's even going to be the only QB on the PS as we spent most of last season with Davis Webb and Jake Fromm there. Might still be another late round pick or UDFA.

 

RELAX.

 

 

you got that right.

[NewEra]

6 seasons?  How do you figure?  “Matt barkley has been in the NFL for close to a decade” ……and that’s the point you decide to debate?  Bwhahaha.  
 

let me guess….you googled him and looked at this https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BarkMa00.htm.

 

not realizing that they only keep track of games played….not years on rosters and in the nfl like I had said.  He’s been in the league much closer to 10 years than 6.  #additionishard

[YoloinOhio]

 

[ExWNYer]

 

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by ExWNYer

[MAJBobby]

officially official for the Webb Replacement

[NewEra]

On 3/19/2022 at 4:32 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

Webb certainly knew, before the Giants offered him a futures/reserve contract, that they were going to sign someone else as backup.  He will be on their PS, so, yeah, that is continuing his QB career.  

 

And first of all, Mitch Trubisky is Josh's new best friend.  Second,  no, I haven't seen Matt Barkley (6 seasons is not "almost a decade") dissect  film, but I'm going to go way out on a limb and conclude that Keenum, a guy now 10 seasons (which is actually a decade) in the NFL with 64 starts on 6 teams in both Conferences will be able dissect film and share with Josh how he has actually prepared to play opponents as a starter, far better than terminal scrub Barkley.

 

I mean did I really even have to type that? 

 

So he doesn't even bring value there.

Yet Matt Barkley was signed so he can be Josh Allens best friend again. ❤️ 💙  another obviously blunder by Beane

[Solomon Grundy]

11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

officially official for the Webb Replacement

I wonder if they will have the pre practice foot race?

[letsgoteam]

On 3/19/2022 at 7:32 PM, Mr. WEO said:

far better than terminal scrub Barkley.

 

I mean did I really even have to type that? 

 

So he doesn't even bring value there.

What did Matt Barkley do to you?

 

A great locker room guy that will be QB3. He might not even be on the 53, they may put him on the PS (depending on what those rules are like this year, I dont know at this time what that looks like).

 

If you want to argue not having to use that roster position on a QB3 or having some type of rookie development guy, I hear yeah, but why the hate on Barkley? Should he decline and not sign with the Bills? I mean he cant force himself on the team, the team has to sign him. MB: "Sorry, a person on TBD message board has declared that I am a "terminal scrub", so therefore I must decline your offer of being on the team."

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yet Matt Barkley was signed so he can be Josh Allens best friend again. ❤️ 💙  another obviously blunder by Beane

 

 

"hey Josh---want me to dissect summa that Jets film for you??"

 

"Nah, bro--me and Case got it.  Can you grab us coupla Cherry Blade Lemonade Bangs, yo?"

 

"You got it Josh!!"

2 minutes ago, letsgoteam said:

What did Matt Barkley do to you?

 

A great locker room guy that will be QB3. He might not even be on the 53, they may put him on the PS (depending on what those rules are like this year, I dont know at this time what that looks like).

 

If you want to argue not having to use that roster position on a QB3 or having some type of rookie development guy, I hear yeah, but why the hate on Barkley? Should he decline and not sign with the Bills? I mean he cant force himself on the team, the team has to sign him. MB: "Sorry, a person on TBD message board has declared that I am a "terminal scrub", so therefore I must decline your offer of being on the team."

 

 

I don't "hate" him.  I just don't see the value of him on the team at this point.  I've said so and why 4 times now.  

 

Keep up.

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, letsgoteam said:

What did Matt Barkley do to you?

 

A great locker room guy that will be QB3. He might not even be on the 53, they may put him on the PS (depending on what those rules are like this year, I dont know at this time what that looks like).

 

If you want to argue not having to use that roster position on a QB3 or having some type of rookie development guy, I hear yeah, but why the hate on Barkley? Should he decline and not sign with the Bills? I mean he cant force himself on the team, the team has to sign him. MB: "Sorry, a person on TBD message board has declared that I am a "terminal scrub", so therefore I must decline your offer of being on the team."

He didn’t do anything to him, he just likes to argue stupid points.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Any guesses on the new number? Stevenson is 5. Barkley was 7 in college, as was Case Keenum. 

Edited March 21, 2022 by TheyCallMeAndy

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

"hey Josh---want me to dissect summa that Jets film for you??"

 

"Nah, bro--me and Case got it.  Can you grab us coupla Cherry Blade Lemonade Bangs, yo?"

 

"You got it Josh!!"

Yet you’re wrong…..yet again

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, NewEra said:

Yet you’re wrong…..yet again

 

wrong about what?  It's my opinion that be doesn't bring much.  They signed him.  

 

He's not the first dud signing they have made in 4 years.

[Warcodered]

 

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

wrong about what?  It's my opinion that be doesn't bring much.  They signed him.  

 

He's not the first dud signing they have made in 4 years.

That he was only brought in to be josh’s friend. Beane is an nfl GM not team captain on the playground.  

[eball]

If I have a nit to pick with this, it's only that I think it is always worth it to bring a true developmental QB in, even when you have an established star.  Those guys can grow into trade ammo in a couple of years.  They're obviously not getting that from Barkley.

 

Still, it's obvious that Barkley was well-liked in the locker room and I'm not going to get upset over a move that continues to keep Josh comfortable.  Signing Barkley will have no negative impact whatsoever on the football field.

 

 

[NewEra]

On 3/19/2022 at 2:15 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

well, you don't make roster decisions to bring some buddies back.  Josh is well  past the point where he needs some bros to hang out with to buck up his confidence.  This isn't Entourage. 

 

Keenum can impart more veteran knowledge to JA in a week than Barkley ever could.  

 

6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

wrong about what?  It's my opinion that be doesn't bring much.  They signed him.  

 

He's not the first dud signing they have made in 4 years.

 
You said he only brings friendship.  What else have you admitted that he brings to the table?  If it’s nothing, than your saying that he’s only bringing him in to be his friend and has no value…..yet Beane obviously disagrees with your asesment.  Most of us will take his word for it over yours.

[GunnerBill]

Meh. I'm fine with Barkley as the #3 given that the rules now allow you to stick an old journeyman on the PS. Hope he is on vet minimum. I still hope they bring day 3 pick or an UDFA in too. I think they only keep two on the active roster and I'd like to have a young developmental guy in the system somewhere. You should always be trying to find a hidden gem that can develop into a credible backup.

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

Meh. I'm fine with Barkley as the #3 given that the rules now allow you to stick an old journeyman on the PS. Hope he is on vet minimum. I still hope they bring day 3 pick or an UDFA in too. I think they only keep two on the active roster and I'd like to have a young developmental guy in the system somewhere. You should always be trying to find a hidden gem that can develop into a credible backup.

 

I just hope he doesn't do that disturbing thing with his jaw during the 12 Days of Christmas video.  

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, NewEra said:

That he was only brought in to be josh’s friend. Beane is an nfl GM not team captain on the playground.  

 

You don't know why they settled on this guy (who was not very valuable to them a few seasons ago, right?), other than the obvious--maybe he's just appeasing  his golden goose.  Josh may have said hey can you bring in my boy Matt again?  I love that guy, and I don't know Case, who's gonna be eying me like Wylie Coyote looks at Roadrunner!

 

As opposed to "man, we really gotta get a veteran journeyman PS guy to help carry some of the load in the QB film room".

 

lol

[Magox]

You guys have to understand that WEO doesn’t believe in abstract concepts such as creating a “culture”.     If he doesn’t believe that how in the hell do you expect him to understand that a player like Barkley would. E good for the QB room and that there ancillary benefits aside from what he can do on the football field.   Which for a 3rd string QB, he is above average.

[JGMcD2]

11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

He's not the first dud signing they have made in 4 years.

You really know you’re complaining when you’re referring to the practice squad QB as a “dud signing” 

 

Ay, dios mío.

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

I just hope he doesn't do that disturbing thing with his jaw during the 12 Days of Christmas video.  

 

 

Barkley is at the 1:11 mark.  WTF is wrong with this dude!??

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, eball said:

If I have a nit to pick with this, it's only that I think it is always worth it to bring a true developmental QB in, even when you have an established star.  Those guys can grow into trade ammo in a couple of years.  They're obviously not getting that from Barkley.

 

Still, it's obvious that Barkley was well-liked in the locker room and I'm not going to get upset over a move that continues to keep Josh comfortable.  Signing Barkley will have no negative impact whatsoever on the football field.

 

 

 

Exactly.

 

No negative.  No positive other than what you just said there.

[NewEra]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

You don't know why they settled on this guy (who was not very valuable to them a few seasons ago, right?), other than the obvious--maybe he's just appeasing  his golden goose.  Josh may have said hey can you bring in my boy Matt again?  I love that guy, and I don't know Case, who's gonna be eying me like Wylie Coyote looks at Roadrunner!

 

As opposed to "man, we really gotta get a veteran journeyman PS guy to help carry some of the load in the QB film room".

 

lol

Again, Barkley was brought it for more than just being Josh’s friend….unless you think Beane is a team captain picking teams on the playground.  Because that what you’re insinuating.  So yeah…..wrong again.  L

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Magox said:

You guys have to understand that WEO doesn’t believe in abstract concepts such as creating a “culture”.     If he doesn’t believe that how in the hell do you expect him to understand that a player like Barkley would. E good for the QB room and that there ancillary benefits aside from what he can do on the football field.   Which for a 3rd string QB, he is above average.

 

The culture was just fine after they Bills had no use for Barkley last year.  Now the culture suddenly needs Barkley?

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Again, Barkley was brought it for more than just being Josh’s friend….unless you think Beane is a team captain picking teams on the playground.  Because that what you’re insinuating.  So yeah…..wrong again.  L

 

 

That's literally what he is.  GM.

 

keep swinging

[NewEra]

On 3/19/2022 at 2:00 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

Compared to who?  Barkley??  Come on..

 

Also, who has a higher career INT%:  Fitz or Jim Kelly?

 

 

Keenum is solid choice.  Really don't see why they would also bring in Barkley.  He adds nothing.

 

On 3/19/2022 at 11:44 AM, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

lol, he completed 15 passes.  It would be his last start in the NFL and it was 4 years ago.

 

He's no good.  really nopoint in bringing him in. 

 

On 3/19/2022 at 2:15 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

well, you don't make roster decisions to bring some buddies back.  Josh is well  past the point where he needs some bros to hang out with to buck up his confidence.  This isn't Entourage. 

 

Keenum can impart more veteran knowledge to JA in a week than Barkley ever could.  

Yet….. 

[ExWNYer]

I wonder what numbers he and Keenum will wear? Nothing yet on the Bills official website and Stevenson already has #5. Marquez should pit them against one another and sell it to the highest bidder. 😂

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

The culture was just fine after they Bills had no use for Barkley last year.  Now the culture suddenly needs Barkley?

 

 

That's literally what he is.  GM.

 

keep swinging

Makes sense that you would associate the 2 as the same.  L

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, NewEra said:

 

 

Yet….. 

 

 

even you are acknowledging he is being brought in for some sort of locker room ambiance.  That's not different from what I am saying.  he's there for the bro-ing it up with Josh and the fellas.  

 

 

 

[NewEra]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

even you are acknowledging he is being brought in for some sort of locker room ambiance.  That's not different from what I am saying.  he's there for the bro-ing it up with Josh and the fellas.  

 

 

 

Yes, I’m admitting that one of the reasons he’s being brought in is because of locker room ambience.  I’m not admitting that that is the ONLY reason.  Like you are.  Hence the L

[Gugny]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

even you are acknowledging he is being brought in for some sort of locker room ambiance.  That's not different from what I am saying.  he's there for the bro-ing it up with Josh and the fellas.  

 

 

 

 

I think he's there for "Renegade," when we play Pittsburgh.  He wasn't there last year and look what happened.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

even you are acknowledging he is being brought in for some sort of locker room ambiance.  That's not different from what I am saying.  he's there for the bro-ing it up with Josh and the fellas.  

 

 

 

What exactly do you want from QB 3?

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, Warcodered said:

What exactly do you want from QB 3?

potential

[Warcodered]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

potential

I'm sure we'll bring someone else in for training camp maybe they'll win the job.