nedboy7 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: So why don’t you add something constructive to the debate. What would you do to win super bowls. Why aren’t we winning them? It's because Josh Allen sucks. There I said it. I been afraid to all year. I mean he is decent. But if he was better we would win. He clearly isn't good enough to win the Lombardi every year. And if you are not winning the Lombardi every year you might as well be the Jags. Which we are. We are the ***** Buffalo Jaguars. *****. Happy? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) The Chiefs. They had more talent and better coaching the last 2 years (and home field advantage). That doesn't mean McDermott and team can't overcome that in the future. Its not a static thing, it is ever changing. The answer you are looking for is McDermott, and Beane so you can rail on them but in reality they are our best shot to win a lombardi. Edited March 12, 2022 by What a Tuel 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Some things never change around here. Same people from months ago still beating their same agendas on basically every thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: The Chiefs. They had more talent and better coaching the last 2 years. That doesn't mean McDermott and team can't overcome that in the future. Its not a static thing, it is ever changing. The answer you are looking for is McDermott, and Beane so you can rail on them but in reality they are our best shot to win a lombardi. You clearly missed his post that states you cant blame McD cause there is no real metric to see how talented the team is. You stepped right into his trap. Sucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: The reason it doesn't exist is because you cannot statistically quantify all of the variables that truly measure "talent" and how that talent might manifest on the field in any given situation. You cannot reduce human behavior to strictly measurable numbers in order to predict outcome. Im pretty sure IronMaiden doesn’t understand this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Milanos Milano Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: The Chiefs. They had more talent and better coaching the last 2 years (and home field advantage). That doesn't mean McDermott and team can't overcome that in the future. Its not a static thing, it is ever changing. The answer you are looking for is McDermott, and Beane so you can rail on them but in reality they are our best shot to win a lombardi. I never said they couldn’t improve or that they needed firing. All I want to know is who is most at fault for why we haven’t won a Lombardi. If what you said is correct and we lost to a superior team (talent and coaching wise) then we need to continue adding better talent. Hopefully Beane and McDermott keep improving because it’s clearly we are lacking pieces still. 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Im pretty sure IronMaiden doesn’t understand this. Lol then we just shrug our shoulders? We don’t even try to qualify and quantify it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 An Act of God this past season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 SuperBowl XXV is 100% on coaching. Levy was out-coached by Parcells and Belichick. The following three SuperBowls the Bills were dominated by bigger faster defenses and o-lines. So I guess you lay the blame on Polian there. The roster was not good enough especially on the lines. The past two years we lost because the defense is a fraud. McDermotts defense has melted in every big game except Bills Ravens. He has been outcoached by Reid multiple times. Edmunds the leader of the fraud defense is a massive letdown. If someone can point out a single impact play he has made in the playoffs I would like to know. The Bills are competitive for one reason alone,Josh Allen. And the reason we did not win the SuperBowl this past season is Sean McDermott. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Over the years it’s really been a group effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: Please discuss as honestly as you can. I unequivocally blame you. Karma is certainly punishing you for being so awful and the rest of us must suffer. ..for the love of all that's good.. bring back the buffalobills.com message board Edited March 12, 2022 by Malazan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, SWATeam said: Believe whatever nonsense you want. I guess the 2021 Jags were better than the 2021 Bills and the NYG were the best team in football in 2007! 2021 Jags played better than the 2021 Bills when they matched up. Not sure if I’d call that luck or just a bad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: We don’t even try to qualify and quantify it? You keep wanting an objective answer for a subjective topic. 1959 laid it out perfectly and easy to understand but you don’t want to because you have a clear agenda. Subjective doesn’t mean it can’t be debated but you’re not willing to listen to any solid reasoning unless it gives a black and white answer on who is to blame. How many people are going to argue against you before you understand your logic is flawed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: I think if the Bills had a punter that was in the top 5 in the league that would get them a Lombardi trophy. Everybody knows you can’t win a super bowl without a top flight punter!!! Well, Brian Moorman was our MVP for a few years. Should’ve won a Lombardi Edited March 12, 2022 by MiltonWaddams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: You keep wanting an objective answer for a subjective topic. 1959 laid it out perfectly and easy to understand but you don’t want to because you have a clear agenda. Subjective doesn’t mean it can’t be debated but you’re not willing to listen to any solid reasoning unless it gives a black and white answer on who is to blame. How many people are going to argue against you before you understand your logic is flawed? We can make this an objective topic with verifiable measurements and player attributes. Somewhere someplace someone must be making some kind of machine learning platform that incorporates all these performance metrics for best optimization for varying opponents. I can’t believe people aren’t feeding thousands of pre snap images into a program to diagnose best percentage probabilities for successful plays. We have strategic AI platforms for chess, and I’m sure there will be one for football someday where the program will take pre snap reads and spit out best options for favorable plays to run based on current roster talent attributes. 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said: Well, Brian Mootman was our MVP for a few years. Should’ve won a Lombardi Well sadly we had trash QB play at the time. It would honestly be cool if we employed a deep blue type program to be our coordinator. I’d be curious to see how much better a machine could be at calling plays based on probable outcomes based on opponent talent characteristics and scheme. Edited March 12, 2022 by IronMaidenBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: We can make this an objective topic with verifiable measurements and player attributes. Somewhere someplace someone must be making some kind of machine learning platform that incorporates all these performance metrics for best optimization for varying opponents. I can’t believe people aren’t feeding thousands of pre snap images into a program to diagnose best percentage probabilities for successful plays. We have strategic AI platforms for chess, and I’m sure there will be one for football someday where the program will take pre snap reads and spit out best options for favorable plays to run based on current roster talent attributes. Nope….and WTF. Stick to chess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Nope….and WTF. Stick to chess. Why not? Image if a program existed that could tell you opponents tendencies percentages under certain formations historically and in game techniques based on player attributes? Directly relay it to Josh so he could direct accordingly. It would be a huge benefit. You could run plays were formations have statistical probabilities to succeed in best spots around the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Oh so it wasn’t the superior opponent who was the reason he won it….it was the inferior opponent making mistakes. I see how your mind thinks now. Statistical analysis isn’t subjective????? Okay, this is getting beyond dumb now. Im out. There is a thing called objective statistical analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1. I blame Ralph and the Pegula's and every person that has ever been paid by the Buffalo Bills. Players, coaches, trainers, beer vendors, season ticket sellers, urinal cake replacers etc ... 2. Playing outdoors ... We lost home field advantage on a windy night losing to a QB that passed the ball 3 times all game... We need a dome to exert our superiority regardless of the weather outside. 3. The big guy upstairs isn't a Bills fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 This nonsense is still going on??? JFC, if some of you think the Bills are a terribly run team, you might wanna look at the NJ Jets, according to you people every team in the league expect the SB winner sucks, this constant whining is becoming unbearable, y’all’s grown men and women…., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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