ScorpionZero Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 25 Round: 1 Kaiir Elam CB | Florida 57 Round: 2 Breece Hall RB | Iowa State 89 Round: 3 Alec Pierce WR | Cincinnati 128 Round: 4 Lecitus Smith IOL | Virginia Tech 167 Round: 5 Cam Taylor-Britt CB | Nebraska 183 Round: 6 Marquan McCall DL | Kentucky 201 Round: 6 Matt Araiza P | San Diego State 228 Round: 7 Ben Brown IOL | Mississippi 243 Round: 7 Matt Henningsen DL | Wisconsin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: 25 Round: 1 Kaiir Elam CB | Florida 57 Round: 2 Breece Hall RB | Iowa State 89 Round: 3 Alec Pierce WR | Cincinnati 128 Round: 4 Lecitus Smith IOL | Virginia Tech 167 Round: 5 Cam Taylor-Britt CB | Nebraska 183 Round: 6 Marquan McCall DL | Kentucky 201 Round: 6 Matt Araiza P | San Diego State 228 Round: 7 Ben Brown IOL | Mississippi 243 Round: 7 Matt Henningsen DL | Wisconsin 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 25. Perrion Winfrey IDL, 57. Kaiir Elam CB, 89. Ed Ingram IOL, 128. Alec Pierce WR, 167. Josh Thompson CB, 183. Cade Mays IOL, 201. Noah Elliss IDL, 228. Charleston Rambo WR, 243. D'Vonte Price RB, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 25: R1 P25 CB Kaiir Elam - Florida 57: R2 P25 DL Phidarian Mathis - Alabama 89: R3 P25 RB Breece Hall - Iowa State 129: R4 P25 G Lecitus Smith - Virginia Tech 168: R5 P25 WR Reggie Roberson - Miami 184: R6 P6 G Cade Mays - Tennessee 202: R6 P24 DL Noah Elliss - Idaho 229: R7 P10 CB Josh Thompson - Texas 244: R7 P25 P Matt Araiza - San Diego State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Round 1 Pick 26: Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida (A) Round 2 Pick 26: Perrion Winfrey, DT, Oklahoma (A-) Round 3 Pick 26: Ed Ingram, OG, LSU (A+) Round 4 Pick 26: Hassan Haskins, RB, Michigan (A) Round 5 Pick 26: Chris Paul, OG, Tulsa (A+) Round 6 Pick 6: Josh Thompson, CB, Texas (A+) Round 6 Pick 25: Charleston Rambo, WR, Miami (A) Round 7 Pick 10: Eyioma Uwazurike, DT, Iowa State (A) Round 7 Pick 26: Matt Araiza, P, San Diego State (A+) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 I’m no draft expert but after reading through everyone’s latest mocks, the two players I’m 100% sure will never be on the Bills roster are the RB from Iowa State and the punter from SD State. Both now have the official kiss of death on them. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m no draft expert but after reading through everyone’s latest mocks, the two players I’m 100% sure will never be on the Bills roster are the RB from Iowa State and the punter from SD State. Both now have the official kiss of death on them. 😉 why draft Breece Hall in the 2nd when you can draft Rachaad White in the 4th? I love White if we can wait on him. I also don't understand how Isaiah Spiller is ranked so high, I don't see it with him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 15 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I loved Taylor coming out. Banged the table for him being the best back in that class and the best back in the draft for a number of years. Hall is a nice player but he isn't the same level of prospect as JT. I like watching Matt Waldman film sessions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 hours ago, CapeBreton said: I also don't understand how Isaiah Spiller is ranked so high, I don't see it with him. He is the classic "do a bit of everything" back that evaluators seem to go for these days. He is a three down bavk. Probably the best of this group as a receiving back and he can pass protect a bit. Personally I am not sold on him as a runner and it reminds me a bit of Clyde Edwards-Helaire who went too high as a jack of all trades running back who so far at the NFL level has proved a master of none. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 14 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said: Generally agree and I am NOT one who fully buys in to “never take position X in round one” guy, but there have been lots of OGs that I have thought are worth a first - and Green might fit that but most have turned out “OK” I am a big "never draft so and so position in the top 15" guy. But at 25 all bets are off and think you just take BPA, guys who drop because people reached on upside guys and quarterbacks. It is how guys like TJ Watt, Ray Lewis etc etc go at the end of the first round. But my rule is, never draft a linemen, other than a true LT in the top 15-20, unless they are Quentin Nelson elite. And I am a line guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I am a big "never draft so and so position in the top 15" guy. But at 25 all bets are off and think you just take BPA, guys who drop because people reached on upside guys and quarterbacks. It is how guys like TJ Watt, Ray Lewis etc etc go at the end of the first round. But my rule is, never draft a linemen, other than a true LT in the top 15-20, unless they are Quentin Nelson elite. And I am a line guy. I don’t think most GMs hold to your ‘never draft’ rules but I will say with the Bills now considered an established playoff team it’d seem like you take the BPA regardless of his position at this point. Do the Bills have a few specific needs? Sure. But they’re probably better off in the long run now just building an incredibly strong and deep roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I don’t think most GMs hold to your ‘never draft’ rules but I will say with the Bills now considered an established playoff team it’d seem like you take the BPA regardless of his position at this point. Do the Bills have a few specific needs? Sure. But they’re probably better off in the long run now just building an incredibly strong and deep roster. But BPA isn't a fixed concept. Are they taking the best player available based on what they have put on tape to this point? Or are they taking the best player available based on ceiling? Or are they taking the guy they judge capable of having the biggest impact on the team (which is where positional value comes in)? I am sure the Bills will take the top guy on their board. But how they build the board will depend to an extent on which of the three strategies they are employing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 25. Kenyon Green OG Texas A&M 57. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia 89. Wan'Dale Robinson WR Kentucky 129. John Ridgeway DT Arkansas 168. Hassan Haskins RB Michigan 184. Akayleb Evans CB Missouri 202. Chris Paul OG Tulsa 229. Josh Thompson CB Texas 244. Matt Araiza P San Diego State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: But BPA isn't a fixed concept. Are they taking the best player available based on what they have put on tape to this point? Or are they taking the best player available based on ceiling? Or are they taking the guy they judge capable of having the biggest impact on the team (which is where positional value comes in)? I am sure the Bills will take the top guy on their board. But how they build the board will depend to an extent on which of the three strategies they are employing. Gunner, this is not a difficult concept...in this scenario they're taking the BPA. How they define BPA is completely up to them. BPA means you're not selecting for a specific need or position, but instead just taking the player you've got ranked above everyone else, regardless of position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 25 Round: 1 Devonte Wyatt DL | Georgia 57 Round: 2 John Metchie III WR | Alabama 89 Round: 3 Jalen Wydermyer TE | Texas A&M 128 Round: 4 Hassan Haskins RB | Michigan 167 Round: 5 Cam Taylor-Britt CB | Nebraska 183 Round: 6 Cade Mays IOL | Tennessee 201 Round: 6 Josh Thompson CB | Texas 228 Round: 7 Ben Brown IOL | Mississippi 243 Round: 7 Marquan McCall DL | Kentucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 25. Roger McCreary CB, 57. Phidarian Mathis IDL, 89. Cade Otton (hit button by accident) should have been Calvin Austin TE, 128. Hassan Haskins RB, 167. Josh Thompson CB, 183. Cade Mays IOL, 201. Chris Paul IOL, 228. Charleston Rambo WR, 243. Neil Farrell Jr. IDL, Edited March 1, 2022 by ScorpionZero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Gunner, this is not a difficult concept...in this scenario they're taking the BPA. How they define BPA is completely up to them. BPA means you're not selecting for a specific need or position, but instead just taking the player you've got ranked above everyone else, regardless of position. I don't disagree with that. But I think almost every team in the league would say that is what they do. Things like immediate impact, long term potential, positional value are built into the grades. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't disagree with that. But I think almost every team in the league would say that is what they do. Things like immediate impact, long term potential, positional value are built into the grades. I disagree. The Bills have moved into a position where they now might take a player even though the have a stable and established starter at that position…except possibly at QB, but even there the Bills need a back up. Lesser teams have too many holes to fill to ‘waste’ a pick in that manner. (Unless of course CJ Spiller is sitting there. 😉) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 25: R1 P25 CB Roger McCreary - Auburn 57: R2 P25 DL Perrion Winfrey - Oklahoma 89: R3 P25 RB Breece Hall - Iowa State 129: R4 P25 DL Devonte Wyatt - Georgia 168: R5 P25 LB Brian Asamoah - Oklahoma 184: R6 P6 G Cade Mays - Tennessee 202: R6 P24 G Ed Ingram - LSU 229: R7 P10 WR Reggie Roberson Jr. - SMU 244: R7 P25 CB Isaac Taylor-Stuart - USC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 So as this has kind of become a place to post your mocks here is one I did on pro football network last night: Round 1 - Pick #30 - Treylon Burks, Wide Receiver, Arkansas I traded back from #25 to #30 with the Chiefs. I swapped #129 for #62 in the process giving me an extra 2nd round pick. Not sure how realistic the Bills trading with the Chiefs in the 1st round is but if the trade makes sense (and this one did because there were still 5 guys I liked on the board) they shouldn't be scared to do so. Keep stacking weapons for Josh Allen. I think Burks is going to have a good Combine and secure himself as a round 1 pick. he is a YAC monster and that has been missing from our offense. Round 2 - Pick #57 - Kyler Gordon, Cornerback, Washington I'd consider Gordon at #25 and I really expect him to go early, but he was still there on this mock. He would be a steal at this point of the draft. Immediate upgrade at corner #2 and his ceiling is as a #1 corner. Round 2 - Pick #62 - Boye Mafe, Edge, Minnesota I used the extra 2nd rounder to snag Boye Mafe who is an raw, physical and explosive pass rusher. Had a great Senior Bowl and improved his stock. I still think a day 2 pick though and if he makes it to this spot he is great value. Adds an explosive quality that the Bills Edge group lacks. Round 3 - Pick #92 - Daniel Faalele, Offensive Tackle, Minnesota I traded back again with Green Bay from #89 to #92. Swapping #168 for #131 while doing so. The Bills need to add to the offensive tackle group. I'm not against taking a guy early but I think the round 1 level guys will fly off the board. Faalele is a developmental guy who I am not sure would be ready to start year 1. He is physical but he has some technical deficiencies that need refining and at times looks a bit mechanical in his movement. Round 4 - Pick #131 - Cade Mays, Guard, Tennessee Physical mauler of a guard who actually fits the Bills if they are moving to more of a gap and man blocking scheme. He isn't a fit for all the Shanahan style outside zone teams but he would likely be a starter by the end of his rookie year on the Bills. That left with picks #184, #202, #229 and #244 (so two 6ths and two 7ths). With these picks I tried to prioritise guys who I thought had a shot at making the roster. Round 6 - Pick #184 - Jerrion Early, Running Back, Mississippi The only running back on the Bills roster who I would say is an absolute lock for the 53 at this point is Devin Singletary. Zack Moss is probably back but there is a spot for a speed back alongside them. Early is explosive. He might be a little undersized but I like the fact that he isn't afraid to get north and south. He would compete for a roster spot. Round 6 - Pick #202 - Bo Melton, Wide Receiver, Rutgers Melton is a developmental slot guy who could even do some of the gadget play type stuff that Isaiah McKenzie has done for this team in recent years. If McKenzie is not back (which looks likely to be the case) then Melton can add competition for that spot and he has experience as a returner which is still an open job. Round 7 - Pick #229 - Jelani Woods, Tight End, Virginia Wood projects as a #2 tight end and this is the weakest area on the Bills roster with zero real depth behind Dawson Knox. He was mainly used to block at Oklahoma State but he had 598 yards and 8 touchdowns after transferring to Virginia as a senior. Was a stand out in the Shrine Game. Round 7 - Pick #244 - Clarence Hicks, Linebacker, UTSA The linebacker room is another where there are potential backup spots to be won. Hicks is a bit of a tweener, hybrid type who started his college career on the edge but has increasingly played more in space as an off the ball 'backer. Can imagine Beane and McDermott liking him as a chess piece type player and I can imagine him flying around on special teams. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: So as this has kind of become a place to post your mocks here is one I did on pro football network last night: Round 1 - Pick #30 - Treylon Burks, Wide Receiver, Arkansas I traded back from #25 to #30 with the Chiefs. I swapped #129 for #62 in the process giving me an extra 2nd round pick. Not sure how realistic the Bills trading with the Chiefs in the 1st round is but if the trade makes sense (and this one did because there were still 5 guys I liked on the board) they shouldn't be scared to do so. Keep stacking weapons for Josh Allen. I think Burks is going to have a good Combine and secure himself as a round 1 pick. he is a YAC monster and that has been missing from our offense. Round 2 - Pick #57 - Kyler Gordon, Cornerback, Washington I'd consider Gordon at #25 and I really expect him to go early, but he was still there on this mock. He would be a steal at this point of the draft. Immediate upgrade at corner #2 and his ceiling is as a #1 corner. Round 2 - Pick #62 - Boye Mafe, Edge, Minnesota I used the extra 2nd rounder to snag Boye Mafe who is an raw, physical and explosive pass rusher. Had a great Senior Bowl and improved his stock. I still think a day 2 pick though and if he makes it to this spot he is great value. Adds an explosive quality that the Bills Edge group lacks. Round 3 - Pick #92 - Daniel Faalele, Offensive Tackle, Minnesota I traded back again with Green Bay from #89 to #92. Swapping #168 for #131 while doing so. The Bills need to add to the offensive tackle group. I'm not against taking a guy early but I think the round 1 level guys will fly off the board. Faalele is a developmental guy who I am not sure would be ready to start year 1. He is physical but he has some technical deficiencies that need refining and at times looks a bit mechanical in his movement. Round 4 - Pick #131 - Cade Mays, Guard, Tennessee Physical mauler of a guard who actually fits the Bills if they are moving to more of a gap and man blocking scheme. He isn't a fit for all the Shanahan style outside zone teams but he would likely be a starter by the end of his rookie year on the Bills. That left with picks #184, #202, #229 and #244 (so two 6ths and two 7ths). With these picks I tried to prioritise guys who I thought had a shot at making the roster. Round 6 - Pick #184 - Jerrion Early, Running Back, Mississippi The only running back on the Bills roster who I would say is an absolute lock for the 53 at this point is Devin Singletary. Zack Moss is probably back but there is a spot for a speed back alongside them. Early is explosive. He might be a little undersized but I like the fact that he isn't afraid to get north and south. He would compete for a roster spot. Round 6 - Pick #202 - Bo Melton, Wide Receiver, Rutgers Melton is a developmental slot guy who could even do some of the gadget play type stuff that Isaiah McKenzie has done for this team in recent years. If McKenzie is not back (which looks likely to be the case) then Melton can add competition for that spot and he has experience as a returner which is still an open job. Round 7 - Pick #229 - Jelani Woods, Tight End, Virginia Wood projects as a #2 tight end and this is the weakest area on the Bills roster with zero real depth behind Dawson Knox. He was mainly used to block at Oklahoma State but he had 598 yards and 8 touchdowns after transferring to Virginia as a senior. Was a stand out in the Shrine Game. Round 7 - Pick #244 - Clarence Hicks, Linebacker, UTSA The linebacker room is another where there are potential backup spots to be won. Hicks is a bit of a tweener, hybrid type who started his college career on the edge but has increasingly played more in space as an off the ball 'backer. Can imagine Beane and McDermott liking him as a chess piece type player and I can imagine him flying around on special teams. I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: So as this has kind of become a place to post your mocks here is one I did on pro football network last night: Round 1 - Pick #30 - Treylon Burks, Wide Receiver, Arkansas I traded back from #25 to #30 with the Chiefs. I swapped #129 for #62 in the process giving me an extra 2nd round pick. Not sure how realistic the Bills trading with the Chiefs in the 1st round is but if the trade makes sense (and this one did because there were still 5 guys I liked on the board) they shouldn't be scared to do so. Keep stacking weapons for Josh Allen. I think Burks is going to have a good Combine and secure himself as a round 1 pick. he is a YAC monster and that has been missing from our offense. Round 2 - Pick #57 - Kyler Gordon, Cornerback, Washington I'd consider Gordon at #25 and I really expect him to go early, but he was still there on this mock. He would be a steal at this point of the draft. Immediate upgrade at corner #2 and his ceiling is as a #1 corner. Round 2 - Pick #62 - Boye Mafe, Edge, Minnesota I used the extra 2nd rounder to snag Boye Mafe who is an raw, physical and explosive pass rusher. Had a great Senior Bowl and improved his stock. I still think a day 2 pick though and if he makes it to this spot he is great value. Adds an explosive quality that the Bills Edge group lacks. Round 3 - Pick #92 - Daniel Faalele, Offensive Tackle, Minnesota I traded back again with Green Bay from #89 to #92. Swapping #168 for #131 while doing so. The Bills need to add to the offensive tackle group. I'm not against taking a guy early but I think the round 1 level guys will fly off the board. Faalele is a developmental guy who I am not sure would be ready to start year 1. He is physical but he has some technical deficiencies that need refining and at times looks a bit mechanical in his movement. Round 4 - Pick #131 - Cade Mays, Guard, Tennessee Physical mauler of a guard who actually fits the Bills if they are moving to more of a gap and man blocking scheme. He isn't a fit for all the Shanahan style outside zone teams but he would likely be a starter by the end of his rookie year on the Bills. That left with picks #184, #202, #229 and #244 (so two 6ths and two 7ths). With these picks I tried to prioritise guys who I thought had a shot at making the roster. Round 6 - Pick #184 - Jerrion Early, Running Back, Mississippi The only running back on the Bills roster who I would say is an absolute lock for the 53 at this point is Devin Singletary. Zack Moss is probably back but there is a spot for a speed back alongside them. Early is explosive. He might be a little undersized but I like the fact that he isn't afraid to get north and south. He would compete for a roster spot. Round 6 - Pick #202 - Bo Melton, Wide Receiver, Rutgers Melton is a developmental slot guy who could even do some of the gadget play type stuff that Isaiah McKenzie has done for this team in recent years. If McKenzie is not back (which looks likely to be the case) then Melton can add competition for that spot and he has experience as a returner which is still an open job. Round 7 - Pick #229 - Jelani Woods, Tight End, Virginia Wood projects as a #2 tight end and this is the weakest area on the Bills roster with zero real depth behind Dawson Knox. He was mainly used to block at Oklahoma State but he had 598 yards and 8 touchdowns after transferring to Virginia as a senior. Was a stand out in the Shrine Game. Round 7 - Pick #244 - Clarence Hicks, Linebacker, UTSA The linebacker room is another where there are potential backup spots to be won. Hicks is a bit of a tweener, hybrid type who started his college career on the edge but has increasingly played more in space as an off the ball 'backer. Can imagine Beane and McDermott liking him as a chess piece type player and I can imagine him flying around on special teams. Imagine this actually happening? We would never be so lucky. Close to a perfect draft imo I’m starting to think Gordon will be gone before our pick. He’s gonna light up the combine The fact that it’s a stacked cB draft might allow him to slip to 40 or so, but I can’t see him falling further than that. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: So as this has kind of become a place to post your mocks here is one I did on pro football network last night: Round 1 - Pick #30 - Treylon Burks, Wide Receiver, Arkansas I traded back from #25 to #30 with the Chiefs. I swapped #129 for #62 in the process giving me an extra 2nd round pick. Not sure how realistic the Bills trading with the Chiefs in the 1st round is but if the trade makes sense (and this one did because there were still 5 guys I liked on the board) they shouldn't be scared to do so. Keep stacking weapons for Josh Allen. I think Burks is going to have a good Combine and secure himself as a round 1 pick. he is a YAC monster and that has been missing from our offense. Round 2 - Pick #57 - Kyler Gordon, Cornerback, Washington I'd consider Gordon at #25 and I really expect him to go early, but he was still there on this mock. He would be a steal at this point of the draft. Immediate upgrade at corner #2 and his ceiling is as a #1 corner. Round 2 - Pick #62 - Boye Mafe, Edge, Minnesota I used the extra 2nd rounder to snag Boye Mafe who is an raw, physical and explosive pass rusher. Had a great Senior Bowl and improved his stock. I still think a day 2 pick though and if he makes it to this spot he is great value. Adds an explosive quality that the Bills Edge group lacks. Round 3 - Pick #92 - Daniel Faalele, Offensive Tackle, Minnesota I traded back again with Green Bay from #89 to #92. Swapping #168 for #131 while doing so. The Bills need to add to the offensive tackle group. I'm not against taking a guy early but I think the round 1 level guys will fly off the board. Faalele is a developmental guy who I am not sure would be ready to start year 1. He is physical but he has some technical deficiencies that need refining and at times looks a bit mechanical in his movement. Round 4 - Pick #131 - Cade Mays, Guard, Tennessee Physical mauler of a guard who actually fits the Bills if they are moving to more of a gap and man blocking scheme. He isn't a fit for all the Shanahan style outside zone teams but he would likely be a starter by the end of his rookie year on the Bills. That left with picks #184, #202, #229 and #244 (so two 6ths and two 7ths). With these picks I tried to prioritise guys who I thought had a shot at making the roster. Round 6 - Pick #184 - Jerrion Early, Running Back, Mississippi The only running back on the Bills roster who I would say is an absolute lock for the 53 at this point is Devin Singletary. Zack Moss is probably back but there is a spot for a speed back alongside them. Early is explosive. He might be a little undersized but I like the fact that he isn't afraid to get north and south. He would compete for a roster spot. Round 6 - Pick #202 - Bo Melton, Wide Receiver, Rutgers Melton is a developmental slot guy who could even do some of the gadget play type stuff that Isaiah McKenzie has done for this team in recent years. If McKenzie is not back (which looks likely to be the case) then Melton can add competition for that spot and he has experience as a returner which is still an open job. Round 7 - Pick #229 - Jelani Woods, Tight End, Virginia Wood projects as a #2 tight end and this is the weakest area on the Bills roster with zero real depth behind Dawson Knox. He was mainly used to block at Oklahoma State but he had 598 yards and 8 touchdowns after transferring to Virginia as a senior. Was a stand out in the Shrine Game. Round 7 - Pick #244 - Clarence Hicks, Linebacker, UTSA The linebacker room is another where there are potential backup spots to be won. Hicks is a bit of a tweener, hybrid type who started his college career on the edge but has increasingly played more in space as an off the ball 'backer. Can imagine Beane and McDermott liking him as a chess piece type player and I can imagine him flying around on special teams. Should be an interesting draft. Beane mentioned it is not stocked with a lot of high-end talent, but a lot of depth, which is why your trade back in R1 is certainly possible this year. However, he also said lack of elite talents in R1 mean rankings for teams can be all over the place, so it's also quite likely someone slides to them that other teams don't rank as high. We're about to hit the dog days of the offseason, after the combine. Almost time for @Virgil's TSW mock... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 3 hours ago, NewEra said: Imagine this actually happening? We would never be so lucky. Close to a perfect draft imo I’m starting to think Gordon will be gone before our pick. He’s gonna light up the combine The fact that it’s a stacked cB draft might allow him to slip to 40 or so, but I can’t see him falling further than that. Sadly I agree. 1 hour ago, TPS said: Almost time for @Virgil's TSW mock... Always one of the highlights of the year on this forum. If you need any help in organising @Virgil do shout. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: So as this has kind of become a place to post your mocks here is one I did on pro football network last night: Round 1 - Pick #30 - Treylon Burks, Wide Receiver, Arkansas I traded back from #25 to #30 with the Chiefs. I swapped #129 for #62 in the process giving me an extra 2nd round pick. Not sure how realistic the Bills trading with the Chiefs in the 1st round is but if the trade makes sense (and this one did because there were still 5 guys I liked on the board) they shouldn't be scared to do so. Keep stacking weapons for Josh Allen. I think Burks is going to have a good Combine and secure himself as a round 1 pick. he is a YAC monster and that has been missing from our offense. Round 2 - Pick #57 - Kyler Gordon, Cornerback, Washington I'd consider Gordon at #25 and I really expect him to go early, but he was still there on this mock. He would be a steal at this point of the draft. Immediate upgrade at corner #2 and his ceiling is as a #1 corner. Round 2 - Pick #62 - Boye Mafe, Edge, Minnesota I used the extra 2nd rounder to snag Boye Mafe who is an raw, physical and explosive pass rusher. Had a great Senior Bowl and improved his stock. I still think a day 2 pick though and if he makes it to this spot he is great value. Adds an explosive quality that the Bills Edge group lacks. Round 3 - Pick #92 - Daniel Faalele, Offensive Tackle, Minnesota I traded back again with Green Bay from #89 to #92. Swapping #168 for #131 while doing so. The Bills need to add to the offensive tackle group. I'm not against taking a guy early but I think the round 1 level guys will fly off the board. Faalele is a developmental guy who I am not sure would be ready to start year 1. He is physical but he has some technical deficiencies that need refining and at times looks a bit mechanical in his movement. Round 4 - Pick #131 - Cade Mays, Guard, Tennessee Physical mauler of a guard who actually fits the Bills if they are moving to more of a gap and man blocking scheme. He isn't a fit for all the Shanahan style outside zone teams but he would likely be a starter by the end of his rookie year on the Bills. That left with picks #184, #202, #229 and #244 (so two 6ths and two 7ths). With these picks I tried to prioritise guys who I thought had a shot at making the roster. Round 6 - Pick #184 - Jerrion Early, Running Back, Mississippi The only running back on the Bills roster who I would say is an absolute lock for the 53 at this point is Devin Singletary. Zack Moss is probably back but there is a spot for a speed back alongside them. Early is explosive. He might be a little undersized but I like the fact that he isn't afraid to get north and south. He would compete for a roster spot. Round 6 - Pick #202 - Bo Melton, Wide Receiver, Rutgers Melton is a developmental slot guy who could even do some of the gadget play type stuff that Isaiah McKenzie has done for this team in recent years. If McKenzie is not back (which looks likely to be the case) then Melton can add competition for that spot and he has experience as a returner which is still an open job. Round 7 - Pick #229 - Jelani Woods, Tight End, Virginia Wood projects as a #2 tight end and this is the weakest area on the Bills roster with zero real depth behind Dawson Knox. He was mainly used to block at Oklahoma State but he had 598 yards and 8 touchdowns after transferring to Virginia as a senior. Was a stand out in the Shrine Game. Round 7 - Pick #244 - Clarence Hicks, Linebacker, UTSA The linebacker room is another where there are potential backup spots to be won. Hicks is a bit of a tweener, hybrid type who started his college career on the edge but has increasingly played more in space as an off the ball 'backer. Can imagine Beane and McDermott liking him as a chess piece type player and I can imagine him flying around on special teams. Love the Jelani Woods pick. Out of curiosity, who did KC pick at 25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 1/23/2022 at 10:36 PM, John from Riverside said: Ethan we need immediate starters and game changers I don’t think we get that by trading down The talent difference between the late 1st round and the early 2nd round isn’t that different according to many scouts. If the Bills can trade back between picks 30-40 they should still be able to get a good talent. Hopefully a rush on QB’s happens around their pick and they can get a nice return on a move back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) This is from PFN, took what the board gave me, mixed with talent and need 25. Perrion Winfrey DT Oklahoma 57. Kyler Gordon CB Washington 89. Wan'Dale Robinson WR Kentucky 129. Marquis Hayes OG Oklahoma 168. Hassan Haskins RB Michigan 184. Bubba Bolden S Miami-Fl 202. Chris Paul OG Tulsa 229. Josh Thompson CB Texas 244. Matt Araiza P San Diego State Edited March 2, 2022 by ScorpionZero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Love the Jelani Woods pick. Out of curiosity, who did KC pick at 25? London. I don't think that is realistic tbh. He isn't a fit in that offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 6:28 AM, SoCal Deek said: I don’t think most GMs hold to your ‘never draft’ rules but I will say with the Bills now considered an established playoff team it’d seem like you take the BPA regardless of his position at this point. Do the Bills have a few specific needs? Sure. But they’re probably better off in the long run now just building an incredibly strong and deep roster. Beane says he drafts BPA but he drafts for need almost exclusively. Allen, Edmunds, Oliver, trade for Diggs, Knox, Bass, Rousseau, and Ford were all need picks. You can argue Singletary and Moss were as well though Shady was still on the roster when they drafted Singletary. Add White being drafted by McDermott after letting Gilmore walk and all their top picks have been clear cut needs. Gabe Davis is probably the best value pick Beane has made at a position that was already stocked. They will draft CB, DT, C/OG in the first three rounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: So as this has kind of become a place to post your mocks here is one I did on pro football network last night: Round 1 - Pick #30 - Treylon Burks, Wide Receiver, Arkansas I traded back from #25 to #30 with the Chiefs. I swapped #129 for #62 in the process giving me an extra 2nd round pick. Not sure how realistic the Bills trading with the Chiefs in the 1st round is but if the trade makes sense (and this one did because there were still 5 guys I liked on the board) they shouldn't be scared to do so. Keep stacking weapons for Josh Allen. I think Burks is going to have a good Combine and secure himself as a round 1 pick. he is a YAC monster and that has been missing from our offense. Round 2 - Pick #57 - Kyler Gordon, Cornerback, Washington I'd consider Gordon at #25 and I really expect him to go early, but he was still there on this mock. He would be a steal at this point of the draft. Immediate upgrade at corner #2 and his ceiling is as a #1 corner. Round 2 - Pick #62 - Boye Mafe, Edge, Minnesota I used the extra 2nd rounder to snag Boye Mafe who is an raw, physical and explosive pass rusher. Had a great Senior Bowl and improved his stock. I still think a day 2 pick though and if he makes it to this spot he is great value. Adds an explosive quality that the Bills Edge group lacks. Round 3 - Pick #92 - Daniel Faalele, Offensive Tackle, Minnesota I traded back again with Green Bay from #89 to #92. Swapping #168 for #131 while doing so. The Bills need to add to the offensive tackle group. I'm not against taking a guy early but I think the round 1 level guys will fly off the board. Faalele is a developmental guy who I am not sure would be ready to start year 1. He is physical but he has some technical deficiencies that need refining and at times looks a bit mechanical in his movement. Round 4 - Pick #131 - Cade Mays, Guard, Tennessee Physical mauler of a guard who actually fits the Bills if they are moving to more of a gap and man blocking scheme. He isn't a fit for all the Shanahan style outside zone teams but he would likely be a starter by the end of his rookie year on the Bills. That left with picks #184, #202, #229 and #244 (so two 6ths and two 7ths). With these picks I tried to prioritise guys who I thought had a shot at making the roster. Round 6 - Pick #184 - Jerrion Early, Running Back, Mississippi The only running back on the Bills roster who I would say is an absolute lock for the 53 at this point is Devin Singletary. Zack Moss is probably back but there is a spot for a speed back alongside them. Early is explosive. He might be a little undersized but I like the fact that he isn't afraid to get north and south. He would compete for a roster spot. Round 6 - Pick #202 - Bo Melton, Wide Receiver, Rutgers Melton is a developmental slot guy who could even do some of the gadget play type stuff that Isaiah McKenzie has done for this team in recent years. If McKenzie is not back (which looks likely to be the case) then Melton can add competition for that spot and he has experience as a returner which is still an open job. Round 7 - Pick #229 - Jelani Woods, Tight End, Virginia Wood projects as a #2 tight end and this is the weakest area on the Bills roster with zero real depth behind Dawson Knox. He was mainly used to block at Oklahoma State but he had 598 yards and 8 touchdowns after transferring to Virginia as a senior. Was a stand out in the Shrine Game. Round 7 - Pick #244 - Clarence Hicks, Linebacker, UTSA The linebacker room is another where there are potential backup spots to be won. Hicks is a bit of a tweener, hybrid type who started his college career on the edge but has increasingly played more in space as an off the ball 'backer. Can imagine Beane and McDermott liking him as a chess piece type player and I can imagine him flying around on special teams. I could live with the early rounds. I would trade away all the 6th and 7th round picks to move up and get best punter in the draft in the fifth round and an earlier pick in 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 3:22 AM, ScorpionZero said: I'm thinking this might be the time to trade up, for an impact player they really like. 9 draft picks is to many for the way this team is built. You've got 3 teams with multiple 1st round picks, all of whom are rebuilding, that's were you strike. If that means one of next year's picks, so be it. We hear this every single year. Without exception. And each year Beane is willing to trade up but only does so if he's giving away only a late-round pick, the only exception being the year they'd put together a ton of extra draft capital to go up and get the QB they wanted in the first and then weren't able to go up as far as they thought they could so they ended up having duplicate picks in early rounds. Expect the same deal this year, being willing to go up a few spots with late-round picks. There's always a small chance they'll use more, but Beane has shown us what he likes to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 25. Garrett Wilson WR, 57. Kaiir Elam CB, 89. Jalen Wydermyer TE, 128. Hassan Haskins RB, 167. Cade Mays IOL, 183. Isaac Taylor-Stuart CB, 201. Noah Elliss IDL, 228. Eric Ezukanma WR, 243. Nick Ford IOL, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, billsfan89 said: The talent difference between the late 1st round and the early 2nd round isn’t that different according to many scouts. If the Bills can trade back between picks 30-40 they should still be able to get a good talent. Hopefully a rush on QB’s happens around their pick and they can get a nice return on a move back. The talent difference isn't very different between about the 7th or 8th guy on the board and the 50th guy on the board IMO. There are a lot of 2nd round guys in this draft. Inevitably a lot of them will go in round 1 cos there are almost no top 10 type guys. Edited March 3, 2022 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 25: R1 P25 G Kenyon Green - Texas A&M 57: R2 P25 DL Perrion Winfrey - Oklahoma 89: R3 P25 RB Breece Hall - Iowa State 129: R4 P25 CB Jalyn Armour-Davis - Alabama 168: R5 P25 WR Charleston Rambo - Miami 184: R6 P6 S Bubba Bolden - Miami 202: R6 P24 G Cade Mays - Tennessee 229: R7 P10 CB Josh Thompson - Texas 244: R7 P25 P Matt Araiza - San Diego State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Round 1 Pick 26: Ahmad Gardner, CB, Cincinnati (A+) Round 2 Pick 26: John Metchie, WR, Alabama (A+) Round 3 Pick 26: Travis Jones, DT, Connecticut (A+) Round 4 Pick 26: Lecitus Smith, OG, Virginia Tech (A+) Round 5 Pick 26: Hassan Haskins, RB, Michigan (A+) Round 6 Pick 6: Josh Thompson, CB, Texas (A+) Round 6 Pick 25: Grant Calcaterra, TE, SMU (A+) Round 7 Pick 10: Jesse Luketa, ILB/OLB, Penn State (A+) Round 7 Pick 26: Matt Araiza, P, San Diego State (A+) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScorpionZero Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 PFN, traded 25+244 to KC for 30+94 30. Kaiir Elam CB Florida 57. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia Traded 89+168 to Titans for 90+130 90. Marquis Hayes OG Oklahoma 94. Cam Taylor-Britt CB Nebraska 129. Cade Mays OG Tennessee 130. Calvin Austin III WR Memphis 184. Charlie Kolar TE Iowa State 202. Matt Araiza P San Diego State 229. Zander Horvath RB Purdue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 25 Round: 1 Trent McDuffie CB | Washington 57 Round: 2 John Metchie III WR | Alabama 89 Round: 3 Jalen Wydermyer TE | Texas A&M 128 Round: 4 Alec Lindstrom IOL | Boston College 167 Round: 5 Hassan Haskins RB | Michigan 183 Round: 6 Cade Mays IOL | Tennessee 201 Round: 6 Matt Araiza P | San Diego State 228 Round: 7 Marquan McCall DL | Kentucky 243 Round: 7 Josh Thompson CB | Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) On 2/8/2022 at 1:02 PM, ganesh said: 2nd and 3rd rounders should be immediate starters. That isn’t realistic based on draft history. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/20/8072877/what-the-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round Edited March 3, 2022 by OldTimer1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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