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4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I don’t think we’re factoring in how good the chiefs offensive line has been all season…when they struggled this year it was all on mahomes not protecting the football.  We had a few defensive linemen playing great down the stretch. 

No question, KC rebuild of their online was impressive.   We still relied more on pressures than sacks.  Vs Mahomes  you need to.put him on hus butt.  We failed to do that very often.

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Emotions still raw. I’m still gutted over this. How did that happen with 13 seconds? I see posts about firing everyone. That’s not happening, nor should it. But…I am getting a little sick of McD learning these tough lessons when it’s too late to do anything about it. That was a colossal coaching failure on the biggest stage. Have to imagine it’s tough for anyone associated with the defense to even look at Josh right now. 

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I wonder if you asked Mahomes if he was surprised at the Bills defensive formations with 13 seconds left if he would be honest. The Bills literally made it as easy as possible for him to achieve the near impossible with these blunders and get down the field. Its like a chess master playing a game vs a 8 year old. His only tough task was to not overthrow them and because they were so wide open and he had so much time with the none existent pass rush, he could take some velocity off the ball.  It never ceases to amaze me how many morons are in the coaching ranks of the NFL or people who just freeze when in a high pressure situation. Just inexplicable!

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3 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:

No sacks on Mahomes was the ONE glaring factor of our D besides the terrible pass defense. It wasn't like they didnt get to Mahomes either, but every time they did they whiffed in the most utterly spastic fashion. Josh was sacked a couple of times and hit repeatedly by their pass rush after throws, yet Mahomes only got smacked on his runs. Every time you hit a QB on a sack or after he throws its degrades him slightly. But Mahomes was barely caressed last night in the pocket. Why the hell didnt Frazier at least call on all out blitz on the last drive when the touchdown seemed inevitable or on any of the Chiefs late 4th quarter drives. Mahomes had all day to throw and his footwork in the pocket to buy time is probably the best in the NFL.  Instead both McD and Frazier looked like deer in the headlights.

I disagree with this take. The Bills pass rush wasn't horrible. They pressured Mahomes often. Yes they didn't get sacks but the pressure was there. Mahomes was fantastic last night. He used his legs to escape the sacks and get big runs and plays. The defense didn't give the Chiefs big plays throughout most of the game. They failed miserably in the end. Lastly, it's pretty well known that Mahomes burns blitzes on a regular basis. The right defensive strategy imho would have forced the Chiefs to return the ball and absolutely maul all their receivers. I wouldn't have allowed any of them to get off the line of scrimmage. Of course, it's easy to play armchair QB after the fact. 

 

For the most part, I thought the Bill's coaching staff did an excellent job. Daboll's play calling was solid. Mixed the run and pass well. Used motion, short passes, RPOs, and a dart throws to Davis. 

 

Frazier and the defense was what I expected. They played a bend and don't break defense. For the most part it was pretty effective. They only gave up 14 to the Chiefs at halftime. Prevented the KC offense from making big plays and pressured Mahomes often. The 3rd quarter and much of the 4th was similar. They did enough to keep the Bills in the game. In Arrowhead, vs Mahomes, Kelce, Hill, minus Tre White, and a rabid crowd that's all we could ask for. The collasal failure occurred with 13 seconds left. However, let's give the entire Bills team including the coaches the props for getting us in that position. Look at the Bills going for it on 4th down twice in the first drive and getting a TD. Big play calls that allowed Allen to hit Davis for impossible touchdowns. Unfortunately, all we will remember is the last 13 seconds. Myself included. It's a nitemare that's likely to reoccurr over and over. Oh what could have been. This loss is excruciating. 

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2 minutes ago, BTB said:

The way KC waltzed through the Bills defense in OT was as bad or worse than "13 seconds".    This friggin' sucks.

The Bills D was gassed and they gave up. They knew that they had already blown the game and they had nothing left. They were praying for the coin toss to go our way and it didnt. I have no idea if Frazier or McD got into their faces during the break before OT started and tried to motivate them but they needed something and miracles just dont happen to the Bills (only against them!).

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13 minutes ago, BTB said:

The way KC waltzed through the Bills defense in OT was as bad or worse than "13 seconds".    This friggin' sucks.

It was reminiscent of the TB game.  Fight all 2nd half, playing lights out.  Get to OT...  fold. 

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9 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:

The Bills D was gassed and they gave up. They knew that they had already blown the game and they had nothing left. They were praying for the coin toss to go our way and it didnt. I have no idea if Frazier or McD got into their faces during the break before OT started and tried to motivate them but they needed something and miracles just dont happen to the Bills (only against them!).

I'm not sure they were gassed. I think they were deflated and the Chiefs seized the opportunity in front of their fan base. Mahomes, Kelce, Hill , and the fans proved to be a little too much for the defense to overcome. The Chiefs knew they had to score a TD. All the momentum was in their direction after the FG. I think after the Bills lost the coin toss many of us were hoping to hold the Chiefs to a FG but thinking a TD was very likely. 

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yeah I wanted to post in the requiem thread. Last night was utmost JOY combined with utmost sinking stomach Opposite of joy I'd call it I saw RED......thats all I fooking saw was THEIR joy and celebration as I looked at #17 on the bench vacant stare Yeah Josh I get it,,,its hard to process such grand emotions with  the span of seconds.

 

Im no football coach clearly I am a a diehard fan. I did not realize what a difference a few seconds could have made. .... I had just come down from literally SCREAMING and Jumping up and down in my living room to telling hubby I cant take it went to the bathroom as KC lined up for the fieldgoal to force OT ..I came back it was Tied ...WTAF

 

I didnt really think that even if kicked deep and ball is set on 25 I thought NO WAY the D would allow Chiefs yards th length of the field in 13 seconds.........Go Clock GO......but then the subsequent plays Im like Noooo Noooo NOOOOOOOOOO

 

Im feeling like a truck run over today my body is worn out from the spent emotion.

 

Its just sad for me today

 

PS: I want to say THANK YOU 2bd for your grace in explaining intrinsic specific football wisdom when Im wrong I really appreciate that.

 

Best fanbase in the WORLD

 

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pfft 13 seconds not 18
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Just now, newcam2012 said:

I'm not sure they were gassed. I think they were deflated and the Chiefs seized the opportunity in front of their fan base. Mahomes, Kelce, Hill , and the fans proved to be a little too much for the defense to overcome. The Chiefs knew they had to score a TD. All the momentum was in their direction after the FG. I think after the Bills lost the coin toss many of us were hoping to hold the Chiefs to a FG but thinking a TD was very likely. 

Honestly, the minute they won the toss, the game was effectively over. I think if we had won it, we were scoring six. I was at my best friend's funeral when the Music City Miracle happened. Watched Norwood's wide right in a dorm room at UCLA. This is by far the most devastating loss I've ever experienced.

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9 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Josh can put to bed that he can't put together back to back outstanding games

NOONE should have a single syllable of dis  aimed to #17 after that game. Period. If they do they out themselves as either a fool or a hack with an agenda to get clicks. Or very likely BOTH....with a little stupid on the side

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13 minutes ago, muppy said:

NOONE should have a single syllable of dis  aimed to #17 after that game. Period. If they do they out themselves as either a fool or a hack with an agenda to get clicks. Or very likely BOTH....with a little stupid on the side

We all know who this person is... rhymes with Prick Wright

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I'm going to comment on Allen's post season because I'm still trying to process what happened last night

 

48 of 62 77.4% completion rate - ranks 1st

10.3 yards per attempt - tied for 1st

Long of 75 yards - 1st

9 passing TDs - 1st

0 Ints - 1st

Sacked twice - 1st among all QBs that played two games

QBR 94.4 - 1st

Rating 149 - 1st

134 yards rushing - 2nd

7.9 yards per carry - 1st among all players with at least 6 carries

Long of 26 yds - Tied with Deebo Samuel for 6th

67 yards per game - 3rd

10 1st downs - 2nd to Singletary 

 

He's a unicorn and the future, as much as last night stings, is bright.

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