Big Turk Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Many think the team isn't good and yet we lead the NFL with a +151 point differential, 11 more than the second place Patriots and 47 more than the 3rd place Cowboys. It's hard to reconcile these two things. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I don't know if it's so much that they think the bills are bad or they are just upset that just upset that the bills don't look like a Super Bowl caliber team right now just remember when you get to the playoffs anything can happen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Many think the team isn't good and yet we lead the NFL with a +151 point differential, 11 more than the second place Patriots and 47 more than the 3rd place Cowboys. It's hard to reconcile these two things. I don't think they're bad. I just think they're inconsistent and unlucky at times. When they put it all together they're among the best in the league. It's just you never know what team you're getting. If they get in the playoffs I don't think anyone will want to face them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 It is weird. But they've crushed a lot of teams and then lost four heartbreakers (Titans, Jags, Pats, Bucs). If the Bills were 3-1 in those games, like last year, it would all make sense. They haven't been able to execute with the O line woes, but more than that, they've been one-dimensional. If Daboll mixes in outside run, screens, and plays based on a defense thinking downfield pass, it opens up easy plays like the TD to Gabe Davis yesterday. Not enough easy plays for the Bills this year. Still time to clean it up though! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I think it illustrates that the team is probably better than what we have seen from them this year. They have gotten no lucky breaks in their favor, no lucky bounces of the ball (like Cam's fumble that bounced right to his receiver), and have been on the wrong side of a lot of bad officiating. Last year I think it was the opposite. The pendulum swung the opposite way. The truth is probably somewhere in-between last year's and this year's team. Things can click for them at any time, though. That's what is exciting about this team. The offense can be struggling in a game, but you know they have it in them to turn it on and start putting up TD after TD. 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 It is directly related to health of team. One of the most important things is availability and how many players besides Allen and kickers can be depended upon to be available every day and practice? When the players are available for when game is planned, practiced and played there are better results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Better oline and better OC and this team is unstoppable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I think what's bothering people is that the Bills haven't yet played a complete game. Early in the year some of the teams they beat were playing really bad, and the Bills crushed them with a B- effort. Every now and then the office gets it in gear for a quarter or so, and we see what they're capable of, and then the wheels come off a little bit. Aside from the Oline Raliroad Trainwreck, there have been new areas of concern. Josh has been missing receivers this year, open guys, that I don't remember him missing last year. Those mistakes stop drives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Not sure anyone thinks the Bills are "bad." And that is the problem, at time they can look great, and at other times, not-so-much. What the Bills are, and this is the frustration, is wildly inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Perception will shift if we win against the Pats next weekend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) If the Bills resign Trumaine Edmunds, they're crazy, he is invisible Edited December 20, 2021 by HOUSE 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: If the Bills resign Trumaine Edmunds, they're crazy, he is invisible If the Bills used three LBs most of the time, Edmunds would make a fine WILL. He's so long, moves well, and has great speed. What he's never figured out is filling a hold and smashing a RB on the RB's way through the hole. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, HOUSE said: If the Bills resign Trumaine Edmunds, they're crazy, he is invisible House, you're better than this. They're very likely to re-sign him, and he's a major part of why this defense is very very good. The problem has been inconsistency, on both sides, but more the offense. 46 minutes ago, Utah John said: I think what's bothering people is that the Bills haven't yet played a complete game. Early in the year some of the teams they beat were playing really bad, and the Bills crushed them with a B- effort. Every now and then the office gets it in gear for a quarter or so, and we see what they're capable of, and then the wheels come off a little bit. Aside from the Oline Raliroad Trainwreck, there have been new areas of concern. Josh has been missing receivers this year, open guys, that I don't remember him missing last year. Those mistakes stop drives. Penalties too. The stats show we had a lot last year too, but last year they seemed to convert 1st and 20s without breaking a sweat. This year not so much. Agreed, about a complete game. They've only had one or two, against tomato cans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: House, you're better than this. They're very likely to re-sign him, and he's a major part of why this defense is very very good. The problem has been inconsistency, on both sides, but more the offense. Penalties too. The stats show we had a lot last year too, but last year they seemed to convert 1st and 20s without breaking a sweat. This year not so much. Agreed, about a complete game. They've only had one or two, against tomato cans. You took me seriously ? No you didn't, your punking me right ? Lets face it, I gotcha 😁 .. Edited December 20, 2021 by HOUSE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I think differential matters to a point. It clearly indicates good and bad teams, but it’s harder to analyze without closer examination. For example, each game, an extra late touchdown scored or given up could substantially change a team’s ranking, but not a game’s outcome. IMO, the NFL is as close to parity as it’s ever been (in my lifetime). Bills lose to Jags, Bucs get shutout at home to the Saints, Cardinals lose to Lions, Chiefs looked terrible and now good, Titans are difficult to figure out, Packers almost lose to a backup QB and his hurting defense. Abundant examples every week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwater10 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Big Turk said: Many think the team isn't good and yet we lead the NFL with a +151 point differential, 11 more than the second place Patriots and 47 more than the 3rd place Cowboys. It's hard to reconcile these two things. So as we are driving down the road every week and our OL keeps grabbing the wheel and steering us toward a tree, and then we look in the point differential rearview mirror and see that right behind us are two scary monsters that have a history of murdering us in our sleep, we should pretend that Steven King didn't write this season just to mess with us? My hope is that King collaborated on the screenplay with Walt Disney. It kind of feels like some of Walt's magic is the only thing that is going to fix this OL this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Big Turk said: Many think the team isn't good and yet we lead the NFL with a +151 point differential, 11 more than the second place Patriots and 47 more than the 3rd place Cowboys. It's hard to reconcile these two things. Not really...it indicates that the Bills have blown out bad teams, of which there have been many on their schedule. The Bills are clearly a "good team", but are they a "great" team? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Big Turk said: Many think the team isn't good and yet we lead the NFL with a +151 point differential, 11 more than the second place Patriots and 47 more than the 3rd place Cowboys. It's hard to reconcile these two things. Some analytics suggest the Bills are the best team in football. I have no idea if that is true, but there is a lot of variance in the NFL due to the 17 game schedule (compared to 162 in baseball) and officiating. Having an unlucky season can really cost a team. Just like getting lucky can really help. Look at the Cardinals. They have the most fumbles in football but have only lost 3 of them. They are on the good side of variance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 hours ago, MJS said: I think it illustrates that the team is probably better than what we have seen from them this year. They have gotten no lucky breaks in their favor, no lucky bounces of the ball (like Cam's fumble that bounced right to his receiver), and have been on the wrong side of a lot of bad officiating. Last year I think it was the opposite. The pendulum swung the opposite way. The truth is probably somewhere in-between last year's and this year's team. Things can click for them at any time, though. That's what is exciting about this team. The offense can be struggling in a game, but you know they have it in them to turn it on and start putting up TD after TD. I find it amazing how the offense can struggle but then still end up with 30+ points. It's like they just are a threat to go on a blitzkrieg of points at any time. 2 hours ago, Utah John said: I think what's bothering people is that the Bills haven't yet played a complete game. Early in the year some of the teams they beat were playing really bad, and the Bills crushed them with a B- effort. Every now and then the office gets it in gear for a quarter or so, and we see what they're capable of, and then the wheels come off a little bit. Aside from the Oline Raliroad Trainwreck, there have been new areas of concern. Josh has been missing receivers this year, open guys, that I don't remember him missing last year. Those mistakes stop drives. Washington was a pretty complete game and so was KC I thought. Probably Houston also. 2 hours ago, CSBill said: Not sure anyone thinks the Bills are "bad." And that is the problem, at time they can look great, and at other times, not-so-much. What the Bills are, and this is the frustration, is wildly inconsistent. I mean that is true...according to Pro Football Outsiders, this year's Bills are the most inconsistent team they have ever tracked going back to 1983 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: House, you're better than this. They're very likely to re-sign him, and he's a major part of why this defense is very very good. The problem has been inconsistency, on both sides, but more the offense. Penalties too. The stats show we had a lot last year too, but last year they seemed to convert 1st and 20s without breaking a sweat. This year not so much. Agreed, about a complete game. They've only had one or two, against tomato cans. I mean, we have the number one defense in the NFL and people are still complaining about things like we are at the bottom. Every team has flaws on both sides of the ball and on balance, I would rather have a team built to stop the pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Max Fischer said: I think differential matters to a point. It clearly indicates good and bad teams, but it’s harder to analyze without closer examination. For example, each game, an extra late touchdown scored or given up could substantially change a team’s ranking, but not a game’s outcome. IMO, the NFL is as close to parity as it’s ever been (in my lifetime). Bills lose to Jags, Bucs get shutout at home to the Saints, Cardinals lose to Lions, Chiefs looked terrible and now good, Titans are difficult to figure out, Packers almost lose to a backup QB and his hurting defense. Abundant examples every week. Bucs got shutout last night by the Saints and we're absolutely destroyed in their earlier meeting in New Orleans. Saints clearly have their number and they Bucs could be in trouble if those injuries last night are serious. Godwin, Evans and Fournette all went down in that game and didn't return. Tampa Bay was the best offense in football...imagine what they would be saying if the Bills got shutout at home by a bottom feeder team. Edited December 20, 2021 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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