BuffaloBillyG Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Bottom line up front: It's not fair. But the difference is, the other teams have played through occasional cases apparently brought in from outside. These are apparently outbreaks within the team, spread within team facilities by vaccinated players. The only way to stem that is press "pause" for those teams. As a result, the NFL will make further changes to the Covid protocols, not necessarily sufficient changes, and teams which suffer outbreaks after those changes probably won't get the same consideration. It sucks, and it's not fair, but It Is What It Is. Yea, it's really a raw deal for teams that played (and lost or tied) with key players due to COVID. If I was a Steeler fan I'd be irate. If the game is postponed due to the fear of spreading...it's a valid reason (not that I 100% agree)...however in the interest of fair play anyone ineligible for it should be forced to miss the game IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Monday night doubleheader (8) Adam Schefter on Twitter: "Monday night doubleheader: 🏈Raiders at Browns, 5 pm 🏈Vikings at Bears, 8:20 pm" / Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Cracks me up! Just a couple of hours ago ESPN reported the commissioner as saying there are absolutely ZERO talks going on about rescheduling the Browns game! Good to know Roger is in the loop as always. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 conspiracy…what’s the prior and set objective criteria that makes a postponement vs. you play down men? At what moment is the threshold crossed!? Shouldn’t a criteria have been or be set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Since1981 said: conspiracy…what’s the prior and set objective criteria that makes a postponement vs. you play down men? At what moment is the threshold crossed!? Shouldn’t a criteria have been or be set? Exactly correct. Whole season has become a sham I've been saying this for weeks - last year I think in some way the protocols unified the teams bc the virus and pandemic were new we may not have had a season. This year with the vaccine and all they've done and were essentially told to do under threats of "making life difficult" in no way are you going to convince me these guys have been properly engaged let alone prepared especially as teammates they thought they were counting on, good to be counted on especially if vaccinated, are suddenly removed from playing that week. Now rather then burn the protocols (they did the second they moved these games) they are just going to arbitrarily decide what games to move. This is bad. This isn't going to sit well with any team. But, likely they'll all be intimidated into silence one way or another. Edited December 17, 2021 by Big Blitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 So, they have no real criteria on this yet? It's all just arbitrary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 I thought they'd move the game; makes sense. A game at 5pm on a Monday is kind of weird though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: I thought they'd move the game; makes sense. A game at 5pm on a Monday is kind of weird though! We get that time slot every week in California…it’s great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Yep. That didn't take long: NFL players react to rescheduled Week 15 games amidst COVID-19 outbreaks https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2253972 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Since1981 said: conspiracy…what’s the prior and set objective criteria that makes a postponement vs. you play down men? At what moment is the threshold crossed!? Shouldn’t a criteria have been or be set? Maybe this is the last week they anticipate this happening so no criteria being set. Sounds like there are talks to allow vaxxed/boosted players to play and not be tested (as long as asymptomatic). or if asympotomatic and positive, still being allowed to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Yep. That didn't take long: NFL players react to rescheduled Week 15 games amidst COVID-19 outbreaks https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2253972 Lol didn’t the NFLPA just make this happen? Who are they complaining about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Josh ankle still hurts a bit and need Dawkins time to test negative. Can we postpone until Monday too? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Selfishly I LOVE this! I have this upcoming week off... so now you're tellin me I get 2 football games games on Monday and 2 football games on Tuesday!!!! Sweet!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Success said: So, they have no real criteria on this yet? It's all just arbitrary? I think the criteria will change as more data about the Omicron variant comes in. As long as they're following the science, then I'm cool with whatever changes they make. Quote “We have made these schedule changes based on medical advice and after discussion with the NFLPA as we are seeing a new, highly transmissible form of the virus this week resulting in a substantial increase in cases across the league,” the NFL said in a statement. “We continue to make decisions in consultation with medical experts to ensure the health and safety of the NFL community.” Edited December 17, 2021 by WhoTom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, WhoTom said: I think the criteria will change as more data about the Omicron variant comes in. As long as they're following the science, then I'm cool with whatever changes they make. More likely they are following the money… I hope they are doing what’s best for the players though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, zow2 said: Maybe this is the last week they anticipate this happening so no criteria being set. Sounds like there are talks to allow vaxxed/boosted players to play and not be tested (as long as asymptomatic). or if asympotomatic and positive, still being allowed to play. Do you have a linky about those talks? Because I've heard a lot of fan supposing about it, but nothing from the league or a league insider I'm not disbelieving you but if it's happening, I'd like to know what's being said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: More likely they are following the money… I hope they are doing what’s best for the players though My gut feeling is that they're in "Protect the Shield" mode, wanting to avoid a PR nightmare if they looked the other way while the virus spread. Smart business people know how to balance short-term profit and PR. At least, I hope so. Edited December 17, 2021 by WhoTom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 53 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Yep. That didn't take long: NFL players react to rescheduled Week 15 games amidst COVID-19 outbreaks https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2253972 So what the NFL actually said was: The reason for the postponement is "medical considerations", with an outbreak of vaccinated players from a novel, highly contagious variant 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Cracks me up! Just a couple of hours ago ESPN reported the commissioner as saying there are absolutely ZERO talks going on about rescheduling the Browns game! Good to know Roger is in the loop as always. I actually kind of think that's a Good Thing? It could imply that the talks were being driven by the NFL's medical team and they brought the data and a recommendation to the Commish at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So what the NFL actually said was: The reason for the postponement is "medical considerations", with an outbreak of vaccinated players from a novel, highly contagious variant I actually kind of think that's a Good Thing? It could imply that the talks were being driven by the NFL's medical team and they brought the data and a recommendation to the Commish at the end. No…it’s not! You never want your boss to look ridiculous in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Success said: So, they have no real criteria on this yet? It's all just arbitrary? They're not being transparent about their criteria. Stills (NFL CMO) has said all fall that they are not seeing "intrafacility spread", so the inference is now they are, and they need to implement last year's protocols and give the situation in the affected facilities time to sort out. But at this time it's "Trust me, We're Fair" from the NFL 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Yep. That didn't take long: Speaking as a fan of the team that got flexed to Tuesday when we were supposed to play the following Thursday: My Nose Bleeds for you, Slay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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